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Old 01-09-2007, 10:12 PM   #1
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U.S. sends stealth fighter planes to South Korea

Bush is going to get us all killed!
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its self defense you fool...

Although they havent attacked anyone yet,(nk) they look shifty like they must be planning something.. better to kill them first ask questions later.
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its self defense you fool...

Although they havent attacked anyone yet,(nk) they look shifty like they must be planning something.. better to kill them first ask questions later.
are they white ?

If not, they must be terrorists ....

But as said in another thead :

The USA doesn't love war ...
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Oh yea, we are the bad guys.

Kim Jong Il is starving his own people, threatening his neighbors, and telling the world to GFY --but GWB is the bad guy.

What a crock of crap.
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Oh yea, we are the bad guys.

Kim Jong Il is starving his own people, threatening his neighbors, and telling the world to GFY --but GWB is the bad guy.

What a crock of crap.
What is it of your business if he is actually starving HIS own people ... Go feed the camps in Darfour .... in fact, feed your own first

If somebody is telling the World to , it is your president.

As for threats, I prefer that to actual invasion and attacks on sovereign countries ...

Which country has NK attacked lately ....

You are pathetic.



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SEOUL (Reuters) - The United States is deploying a squadron of stealth fighters to South Korea, a U.S. military spokesman said on Wednesday, amid speculation that North Korea may be ready to test a second nuclear device.

The United States is sending about 15 to 20 of its F-117A Nighthawk fighters to South Korea, the spokesman for U.S. Forces Korea said.

"This is a routine deployment," said Kim Yong-kyu. "It is a regular operational matter.

The U.S. military has sent the radar-evading fighters regularly to South Korea for stays of a few months over the past few years. North Korea has criticized previous deployments as preparations for invasion and nuclear war.

Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico, where the squadron is stationed, said in a Web posting that the fighters left earlier this week for South Korea.

About 250 to 300 airmen were sent to South Korea for previous deployments.

"This precision-strike aircraft penetrates high-threat airspace and uses laser-guided weapons against critical targets," the U.S. Air Force said in a Web posting.

North Korea conducted its first test of a nuclear device on October 9.

The U.S. television network ABC cited U.S. officials last week as saying North Korea was preparing for another test. However, both U.S. and South Korean officials have publicly said that there was no evidence a test was imminent.
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What is it of your business if he is actually starving HIS own people ... Go feed the camps in Darfour .... in fact, feed your own first

If somebody is telling the World to , it is your president.

As for threats, I prefer that to actual invasion and attacks on sovereign countries ...

Which country has NK attacked lately ....

You are pathetic.



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So you advocate intervention in Darfur?

Why do you rule out North Korea and Iraq? Do you only rule out countries where the US has major strategic interests and/ or that pose a threat to regional and world peace?

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So you advocate intervention in Darfur?

Why do you rule out North Korea and Iraq? Do you only rule out countries where the US has major strategic interests and/ or that pose a threat to regional and world peace?

not worth a reply ... read your post, it is in there ...
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What is it of your business if he is actually starving HIS own people ... Go feed the camps in Darfour .... in fact, feed your own first

If somebody is telling the World to , it is your president.

As for threats, I prefer that to actual invasion and attacks on sovereign countries ...

Which country has NK attacked lately ....

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ok... so the military... not Bush, deploys a squadron of fighters as they have been doing for years as part of a routine deployment.... and Bush is trying to get everyone killed.

ass clowns.

just say you hate Bush and be done with it. why go through so much trouble to make moronic arguments and respond to headlines designed to incite the headline skimming, moronic populace of the world?
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Let's do it the republican way :

- You post proof that it is not true ....
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ok... so the military... not Bush, deploys a squadron of fighters as they have been doing for years as part of a routine deployment.... and Bush is trying to get everyone killed.

ass clowns.

just say you hate Bush and be done with it. why go through so much trouble to make moronic arguments and respond to headlines designed to incite the headline skimming, moronic populace of the world?
I don't really dislike President Bush. I believe in backing the office of the President. Presidents make good decisions and bad decisions, and in this case Bush helped us through 9/11 which was very difficult. I'll give him props for that.

But it seems to me like Bush is on the war path. Korea has been there for the past fifty years. We can deal with that later.
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ok... so the military... not Bush,
I tought he was the COMMANDER in CHIEF, the DECIDER ....

I must be wrong, since " Mr. AllwaysRight " says so ...
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The Stealth Fighters are based about 60 miles up the road from me, all the stealth fighters will be moving to other bases in the very near future as their current home at Holloman AFB will soon be the home to the new F-22 Raptor

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About 300 airmen and a squadron of Nighthawks will leave next week for the Republic of Korea on at least a four-month deployment. It will be the fourth time since 2003 that the 49th Fighter Wing has gone to the region, base officials said.

"This deployment is not related to a particular threat or event but part of an ongoing measure to maintain a credible deterrent posture and presence in the region and demonstrates the continued U.S. commitment towards fulfilling security responsibilities throughout the Western Pacific," according to a statement released by Holloman officials.
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But it seems to me like Bush is on the war path. Korea has been there for the past fifty years. We can deal with that later.
He liked the pilot uniform on the " Mission Accomplished " carrier ....

Instead of playing the big tough military, he should do his service, ythe one that seems to have been looked over ....
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I don't really dislike President Bush. I believe in backing the office of the President. Presidents make good decisions and bad decisions, and in this case Bush helped us through 9/11 which was very difficult. I'll give him props for that.

But it seems to me like Bush is on the war path. Korea has been there for the past fifty years. We can deal with that later.

again... routine deployment as has been going on for years... to a US air base in south korea that has existed since the end of the korean war. "war path" has nothing to do with it... but lets not let facts, reason and rational thinking get in the way of emotional rants.
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I tought he was the COMMANDER in CHIEF, the DECIDER ....

I must be wrong, since " Mr. AllwaysRight " says so ...
so now you have gone retarded to the point that you are trying to argue that the President makes every single operational decision for the Navy, Air Force, Marines and Army because he's President.

wow

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again... routine deployment as has been going on for years... to a US air base in south korea that has existed since the end of the korean war. "war path" has nothing to do with it... but lets not let facts, reason and rational thinking get in the way of emotional rants.
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On the other hand, the USA would not strike another country without being attacked first ....
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I tought he was the COMMANDER in CHIEF, the DECIDER ....

I must be wrong, since " Mr. AllwaysRight " says so ...
Can you imagine any other president saying the words "I'm the decider"
besides Bush.

How about FDR, Kennedy, or Reagan.

I think he actually thinks he's a king.
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again... routine deployment as has been going on for years... to a US air base in south korea that has existed since the end of the korean war. "war path" has nothing to do with it... but lets not let facts, reason and rational thinking get in the way of emotional rants.
you are correct..as the quote in my post above states..this is the 4th time in the last 3-4 years they have deployed to Korea..it's a regular thing they do.
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Korea has been there for the past fifty years. We can deal with that later.
You could have said the same thing about Germany on August 31, 1939 or about Japan on December 6, 1941 or about Al Qaeda on September 10, 2001.

If North Korea did something and we were unprepared, would you still support our strategy?
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On the other hand, the USA would not strike another country without being attacked first ....

9/ 11 was an attack. It shows the new nature of warfare.

Technology has changed things. If you wait, you get slaughtered.

Do you want us to wait for Kim Jong Il to nuke a South Korean city?

Should Israel wait until Iran nukes Tel Aviv?
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so now you have gone retarded to the point that you are trying to argue that the President makes every single operational decision for the Navy, Air Force, Marines and Army because he's President.

wow

Yes, Mr AllwaysRight ... nice link and backup also ...

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By going ahead with a troop increase, Bush is again proclaiming himself the "decider" as he tries to reassert his relevance after coming out on the losing end of a congressional power shift, analysts say.

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"I hear the voices and I read the front page and I know the speculation," the president said testily. "But I'm the decider and I decide what's best. And what's best is for Don Rumsfeld to remain as the secretary of defense."

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But since I think President Bush is The Decider, I think he is responsible for what happens on his watch. A war and many, many horrible deaths. Ignoring Darfur. Ignoring deficits and finances that will put insane tax burdens on our children. Ignoring the environment. Intentionally increasing the gap between rich and poor in our country. Not catching Osama bin Laden.

I don?t think The Decider-in-Chief takes responsibility for tough things in a grown-up, manly way that sets a good example.

And that's not really fair either. You can?t be "The Decider" just for the good stuff.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1523934.shtml

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9/ 11 was an attack. It shows the new nature of warfare.

Technology has changed things. If you wait, you get slaughtered.

Do you want us to wait for Kim Jong Il to nuke a South Korean city?

Should Israel wait until Iran nukes Tel Aviv?
Should Iran wait to be nuked by Israel ( they have the nukes)

Should North Korea wait to be nuked by the USA

Should Iraq wait to get attac... sorry, that has been done ...
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Democracies don't usually start wars. Generally, they are grounded in the rule of law.

Dictatorships usually do. They murder millions of people, and then they attack their neighbors. Examples: Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong Il, etc..
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exceptions confirms the rule : USA..

BTW, who started the Vietnam war ... ???
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BTW, who started the Vietnam war ... ???
The French if I recall correctly.
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its about time they took out japan. fucking weirdos.
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:47 PM   #38
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Oh yea, we are the bad guys.

Kim Jong Il is starving his own people, threatening his neighbors, and telling the world to GFY --but GWB is the bad guy.

What a crock of crap.
Theres a shitload of starving people in the US too and GWB is spending billions of tax dollars on invading countries without reason
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:51 PM   #39
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9/ 11 was an attack. It shows the new nature of warfare.

Technology has changed things. If you wait, you get slaughtered.

Do you want us to wait for Kim Jong Il to nuke a South Korean city?

Should Israel wait until Iran nukes Tel Aviv?
The nature of warfare has changed - in a big way in the past five to ten years. In the future wars will no longer be country against country or govenment against govenment. Now instead we have groups of people with no government running their own armies.

I don't believe in the "if you wait you get slaughted" idea.

Kim Jong will never launch a nuke in SK. Depending on the size of the bomb, the first problem would be fallout. The second issue would be the follow up strike, most likely coming from the United States. It would destroy them.

Same with Iran. Imagine a nuke going off in Israel. Even if no one can point a finger directly at Iran, the follow up strikes would be quick and huge.

No matter what the US would strike back. We have boomer subs sitting off the coast waiting to press the damn button. It doesn't matter if a country is behind it or not; Once the first bomb goes off others will follow.

Russia knew this. They could destroy the US ten times over yet we would still be able to strike back.
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:51 PM   #40
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I hate to say it but could the next world war be on the horizon
America are currently fighting in
Iraq
Afghanistan
Somalia
and North Korea looks like its gonna happen

with all these wars going on looks like your troops are going to be stretched a little too far
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:52 PM   #41
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Bush is going to get us all killed!


LOL, trying to take out that asian midget without losing half of asia would take some magic...
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:58 PM   #42
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Oh yea, we are the bad guys.

Kim Jong Il is starving his own people, threatening his neighbors, and telling the world to GFY --but GWB is the bad guy.

What a crock of crap.
Have you been to New Orleans lately? No? Neither has Bush.
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:16 AM   #43
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i'm glad i am not stationed at osan ab anymore.

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fuck that.

Was thinking the same thing (but swapping Osan for Suwon)...


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Old 01-10-2007, 12:26 AM   #44
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9/ 11 was an attack. It shows the new nature of warfare.
So which country was responsible for 9/11 that we attacked?
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:22 AM   #45
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There is always a war going on somewhere. some of these conflicts have been going on for 60 years. you think bush is the biggest war monger on the planet?

Significant Ongoing Armed Conflicts

Main warring parties - Year began

Middle East
U.S. and UK vs. Iraq 2003
Israel vs. Palestinians 1948

Asia
Afghanistan: U.S., UK, and Coalition Forces vs. al-Qaeda and Taliban 2001
India vs. Kashmiri separatist groups/Pakistan 1948
India vs. Assam insurgents (various) 1979
Indonesia vs. Christians and Muslims in Molucca Islands 1977
Indonesia vs. Papua (Irian Jaya) separatists 1969
Nepal vs. Maoist rebels 1995
Philippines vs. Mindanaoan separatists (MILF/ASG) 1971
Sri Lanka vs. Tamil Eelan 1978

Africa
Algeria vs. Armed Islamic Group (GIA) 1991
Côte d'Ivoire vs. rebels 2002
Congo and allies vs. Rwanda, Uganda, and indigenous rebels 1997
Somalia vs. rival clans and Islamist groups 1991
Sudan vs. Darfur rebel groups 2003
Uganda vs. Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) 1986

Europe
Russia vs. Chechen separatists 1994

Latin America
Colombia vs. National Liberation Army (ELN) 1978
Colombia vs. Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) 1978
Colombia vs. Autodefensas Unidas de Colombia (AUC) 1990
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are you a total moron? i was also in the military and this is not an opinion i would hold. who do you work for again? should i call them and tell them of your idiocracy???
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he's desperate
he wanted to build his legacy with Iraq, but now that it's lost he has to try something else. Even his own army doesn't like him anymore...
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:33 AM   #48
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Calm down everyone .......

I have excellent sources that said the reason for deployment of stealth aircraft to Korea was to make sure Kia Motors honors their 100,000 mile unlimited warranties.
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:37 AM   #49
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are you a total moron? i was also in the military and this is not an opinion i would hold. who do you work for again? should i call them and tell them of your idiocracy???
marine?
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:40 AM   #50
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His time to take over the world is coming to a end fast, he must do all he can while he can
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