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  • SilentKnight
    Megan Fox's fluffer
    • Oct 2005
    • 24818

    #101
    Originally posted by will76
    Exposure is good. EVERY person on GFY needs to know about this and cotact their sponsors and put pressure on them to ban ibill or stop buying ads from them.

    I can understand a sponsor not noticing this because ibill signed up as an affiliate but who are the fucking morons who bought ads from them. I would love to see this list of idiots.

    This company fucked us out of MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. But they stay in business and continue to make money off of our traffic from our previous members. The traffic to that site is either from old links or very likely from the millions of email info they have in their data base that are our members.

    How can they be allowed to fuck us, keep the money, close the door and then open up a new one, on the same domain, continue to leach off of our traffic, and now compete with us for sales. WTF!?@#@#!

    And who are these sponsors that are allowing this to happen ? NO ONE should do business with them.

    Watch it wont be long these shady fucks will be selling zango downloads on that site.
    This is one of the rare cases I would be tempted to buy zango traffic for the keyword "ibill.com" and then redirect it to ibillsucks.com

    IBILL: owes me $35,000 how much do they owe you.
    Good summation - and you raise some good points.

    For the record...we were among the lucky few who were finally paid in full by iBill more than a year and a half later. It wasn't as much as what you claim to be owed, however it was a significant amount. And even though we were following the advice of our company attorney - we still went through a ton of bullshit to get the revenues paid awhile back.

    The fuckers belong behind bars - plain and simple. Dollar for dollar...I don't know why this story hasn't made national mainstream headlines like the Enron or Worldcom debacles.

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    • will76
      Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
      • May 2003
      • 18037

      #102
      Originally posted by Jace
      here is what I don't get

      they sent out notices back in 2005 that they were starting this site, they were aksing for advertisers for months for it

      tons of people jumped on board

      now that they switched out ibill.com it is suddenly taboo? yeah, I agree it is a huge slap in the face to those they owe money to, but this has been going on for a year, and people are just now upset?

      I believe they even came on GFY asking for advertisers
      They didn't come to us affiliates looking for money, I bet it was the big sponsors so you might want to direct that at them. I don't recall seeing them here. Also, I am sure they came as gspotnews and how many people knew that was ibill.

      Now what makes it 10x worse is that they are still leaching off of us. They are taking old traffic links (from us) and better SE placement links/traffic (because of us) and using that to make money and compete against us. I would bet anything they are mass emailing old members, if anyone gets one let us know.

      I can understand why people are getting upset now. I am definetly one of them.
      Last edited by will76; 10-31-2006, 03:56 PM.
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      • esnem

        #103
        has anyone here clicked on the Vivid.com link on ibill.com lately?

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        • Sex Date Cash Travis
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2006
          • 240

          #104
          The hell with em' They still owe me money.
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          • SilentKnight
            Megan Fox's fluffer
            • Oct 2005
            • 24818

            #105
            Originally posted by esnem
            has anyone here clicked on the Vivid.com link on ibill.com lately?



            So fucking owned!

            Good one!

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            • jacked
              sperm tail
              • May 2004
              • 11019

              #106
              Originally posted by esnem
              has anyone here clicked on the Vivid.com link on ibill.com lately?
              thats pretty dam funny every sponsor on that page should do the same
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              • Webby
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Oct 2002
                • 14956

                #107
                Originally posted by will76
                Exposure is good. EVERY person on GFY needs to know about this and cotact their sponsors and put pressure on them to ban ibill or stop buying ads from them.

                I can understand a sponsor not noticing this because ibill signed up as an affiliate but who are the fucking morons who bought ads from them. I would love to see this list of idiots.

                This company fucked us out of MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. But they stay in business and continue to make money off of our traffic from our previous members. The traffic to that site is either from old links or very likely from the millions of email info they have in their data base that are our members.

                How can they be allowed to fuck us, keep the money, close the door and then open up a new one, on the same domain, continue to leach off of our traffic, and now compete with us for sales. WTF!?@#@#!

                And who are these sponsors that are allowing this to happen ? NO ONE should do business with them.

                Watch it wont be long these shady fucks will be selling zango downloads on that site.
                This is one of the rare cases I would be tempted to buy zango traffic for the keyword "ibill.com" and then redirect it to ibillsucks.com

                IBILL: owes me $35,000 how much do they owe you.
                Totally agree Will

                One thing that is a surprise - at least so far, is that firm legal action has not already been taken by webmasters actually resident in the US for recovery of funds - or have this corp bankrupted/liquidated and all proceeds retrieved. (OK.. Sure some have taken action and had varying degrees of success - but that is minor in comparison to the majority presumably remaining owed)

                Also appreciate that some webmasters may have signed paperwork converting their deal to etelegate, - tho surely there are plenty who were not stupid enough to agree to the introduction of etelegate, and still have funding legally owing by iBill and where iBill is deliberately ignoring these debts.

                A possible alternative to boring prolonged legal action is involve a govt agency into aspects of corporate offenses with a view to terminating this company and addressing the role of it's officers over a timespan. This is not without it's problems in establishing actual evidence since, little doubts, iBill will have been causing "deliberate confusion" to cover their tracks - but sure it's there.

                I'm not familiar with corp law in the US, but basically it's going to be the same as elsewhere and have no doubts that a corp elsewhere acting in the manner of iBill would already have had a petition lodged for bankruptcy (tho that may be technically questionable - it could be for other reasons) and possible criminal investigation underway.

                But hell.. unless anyone, or a group of creditors with legitimate claims have the initiative to start the ball rolling - that will never happen - sadly.

                PS Can't say I'm owed by them any longer - they paid out a while back after the usual lies and bullshit and finally threats, - but still willing to do whatever to assist other webmasters have any resolution/satisfaction.
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                • blofer80
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 932

                  #108
                  This sucks big time

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                  • will76
                    Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                    • May 2003
                    • 18037

                    #109
                    bump....
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                    • TreasureBucks
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 1971

                      #110
                      Originally posted by esnem
                      has anyone here clicked on the Vivid.com link on ibill.com lately?
                      Yes sir, and props to you

                      It would be nice to see the others do the same.

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                      • Verotel
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 202

                        #111
                        Originally posted by John69
                        ALL THESE SPONSORS BETTER NOT PAY IBILL!

                        IF THEY DO I WILL DROP MY TRAFFIC TO ALL OF THEM.
                        Although your sentiments are appreciated by all, fact is that you would never know if a sponsor paid them.
                        Darryl McDade
                        Merchant Relationship Executive
                        Verotel Merchant Services BV

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                        • Paul Markham
                          Too old to care
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 52942

                          #112
                          I think the fact that those ads are still there, still directed at the sponsors site and not going elsewhere as ?Vivid did shows how these sponsors feel about the issue.

                          Also the non appearance of any of these sponsors, as with the adware situation, illustrates their feelings as well.

                          Are these sponsors scared they will lose less traffic than they will gain?

                          Are these sponsors worried they will get turned over by IBILL?

                          Are these sponsors worried about things such as morality and ethics?

                          Seems the answer to all these are NO.

                          If they were worried that placing ads or accepting traffic from the biggest con operation to ever hit the Adult Internet was going to damage their bottom line the ads would disappear in minutes or redirect. Truth is they are clearly not worried.

                          Not only does that reflect badly on them but it also reflects badly on us.

                          It reflect5s that the sponsors on that site simply do not think a drama on GFY is going to effect their bottom line. Think about it.



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                          • bobby666
                            boots are my religion
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 21765

                            #113
                            a nice,well done hub

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                            • en21
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                              • May 2006
                              • 2640

                              #114
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                              • MattO
                                The O is for Oohhh
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 10861

                                #115
                                Originally posted by bobby666
                                a nice,well done hub

                                Um..... ok.

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                                • pornguy
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 62912

                                  #116
                                  If I were the sponsors, I would let them rack up a nice check, and freeze the account.

                                  Then go through the courts to see who they owe, and pay those people.
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                                  • will76
                                    Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                    • May 2003
                                    • 18037

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                    I think the fact that those ads are still there, still directed at the sponsors site and not going elsewhere as ?Vivid did shows how these sponsors feel about the issue.

                                    Also the non appearance of any of these sponsors, as with the adware situation, illustrates their feelings as well.

                                    Are these sponsors scared they will lose less traffic than they will gain?

                                    Are these sponsors worried they will get turned over by IBILL?

                                    Are these sponsors worried about things such as morality and ethics?

                                    Seems the answer to all these are NO.

                                    If they were worried that placing ads or accepting traffic from the biggest con operation to ever hit the Adult Internet was going to damage their bottom line the ads would disappear in minutes or redirect. Truth is they are clearly not worried.

                                    Not only does that reflect badly on them but it also reflects badly on us.

                                    It reflect5s that the sponsors on that site simply do not think a drama on GFY is going to effect their bottom line. Think about it.

                                    Just like other issues, if it sticks around long enough some sponsors will come clean and some will not. We need to keep this on the front page so everyone knows about.
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                                    • Manowar
                                      jellyfish  
                                      • Dec 2003
                                      • 71528

                                      #118
                                      That's so fucked up

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                                      • Martin
                                        "Assassins"
                                        • Dec 2001
                                        • 17277

                                        #119
                                        Yeah that is a little fucked up.

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                                        • ForteCash
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2006
                                          • 3278

                                          #120
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                                          • Kimmykim
                                            bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                            • Jun 2001
                                            • 16015

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by SilentKnight

                                            The fuckers belong behind bars - plain and simple. Dollar for dollar...I don't know why this story hasn't made national mainstream headlines like the Enron or Worldcom debacles.
                                            LOL, you realize that much of the old IBill management from the period when they were sold to Penthouse/IBD/etc were from Worldcom, post-disaster?

                                            Of course, many of them, including at least one person on Webby's list, are working at another billing company.

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                                            • MattO
                                              The O is for Oohhh
                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 10861

                                              #122
                                              No word from some of them sponsors, eh?

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                                              • TreasureBucks
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Mar 2005
                                                • 1971

                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by MattO
                                                No word from some of them sponsors, eh?
                                                vivid and nscash cancelled their accounts.

                                                Im not sure how nats works when an account gets deleted, but penthouse also said they closed their account. However, the linking codes are not being redirected.

                                                I would suggest people contact there sponsors and let them know how you feel about it.

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                                                • will76
                                                  Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                  • May 2003
                                                  • 18037

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by TreasureBucks
                                                  vivid and nscash cancelled their accounts.

                                                  Im not sure how nats works when an account gets deleted, but penthouse also said they closed their account. However, the linking codes are not being redirected.

                                                  I would suggest people contact there sponsors and let them know how you feel about it.
                                                  bump....
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                                                  • TreasureBucks
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2005
                                                    • 1971

                                                    #125
                                                    i'll bump it again

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                                                    • JJSLIMM
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                      • 1414

                                                      #126
                                                      bump... ibill is on the hunt to find new sites to put up on their site. We don't want your business either IBILL. Banned from Evil Angel Cash... BLACKLISTED!
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                                                      • John69
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Sep 2005
                                                        • 942

                                                        #127
                                                        Aff And Tcg Are Still On The Main Page
                                                        DARKSOUL: thanks but no thanks, your over priced.

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                                                        • thaifan99
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                          • 3029

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                          LOL, you realize that much of the old IBill management from the period when they were sold to Penthouse/IBD/etc were from Worldcom, post-disaster?

                                                          Of course, many of them, including at least one person on Webby's list, are working at another billing company.

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                                                          • John69
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Sep 2005
                                                            • 942

                                                            #129
                                                            bump.........
                                                            DARKSOUL: thanks but no thanks, your over priced.

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                                                            • John69
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Sep 2005
                                                              • 942

                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by MattO
                                                              No word from some of them sponsors, eh?
                                                              some have no morals.
                                                              DARKSOUL: thanks but no thanks, your over priced.

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                                                              • andrej_NDC
                                                                Registered User
                                                                • May 2004
                                                                • 7760

                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by DjSap
                                                                heh its kind of bunny because i remember when ibill was a reputable company...how times have changed...
                                                                ibill was never a reputable company, only a bunch of amateurs who couldn't even reply to emails...they had no chance to survive

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                                                                • will76
                                                                  Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                  • 18037

                                                                  #132
                                                                  bump....
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                                                                  • nikki99
                                                                    Supermodel
                                                                    • Nov 2004
                                                                    • 23087

                                                                    #133
                                                                    ibiil owes me money
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                                                                    • TreasureBucks
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Mar 2005
                                                                      • 1971

                                                                      #134
                                                                      bump this shit

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                                                                      • will76
                                                                        Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                        • 18037

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by Jace
                                                                        ALSO

                                                                        a lot of the ads you see on that site is PAID advertising and not them sending affiliate traffic

                                                                        they have been selling ads on that site for quite some time, you can probably email them from the email on file wqith gspotnews.com and buy advertising on there
                                                                        i would love to know which were paid and which were affiliates.
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                                                                        • will76
                                                                          Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                          • 18037

                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by TreasureBucks
                                                                          kudos to vividcash for yanking there links.

                                                                          any of these other programs going to do the same?

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                                                                          TopBucks revid = 47351
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                                                                          AdultCashier - affiliateid = acrgspot69
                                                                          Platinumbucks - revid = 217316
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                                                                          i notice Pussy cash and Imlive were not on there when i checked but not sure if i just missed it or not. NScash definetly banned their affiliate account.
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                                                                          • will76
                                                                            Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                            • May 2003
                                                                            • 18037

                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by Lensman
                                                                            Sad, very sad.
                                                                            Lensman, was that a "sad, very sad but oh well" or a "sad, very sad we need to do something about this".

                                                                            btw, adult.com and playboy links are still live and all over ibill.com.
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                                                                            • Tryme
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                              • 596

                                                                              #138
                                                                              Way to go Aff, Capitalbucks and LoveDollars

                                                                              thanks for your support on Ibill

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                                                                              • HorseShit
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Dec 2004
                                                                                • 17513

                                                                                #139
                                                                                seems like AFF is all about pissing off webmasters

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                                                                                • myspacehotty
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Nov 2006
                                                                                  • 158

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  I say everyone running AFF email AFF telling them to blacklist or drop that domain or else we will stop promoting AFF.. Their Affiliate number is:g814244 And do the same with Platinum Bucks as well!. If these people wanna allow these assholes to make money then slam them!.. They owe me also but it was under 1G... I'm sure most got screwed out of thousands!..

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                                                                                  • nitroy2k
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Sep 2005
                                                                                    • 503

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    We have 8 guests online

                                                                                    so aint much of a traffic

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                                                                                    • scottybuzz
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • May 2006
                                                                                      • 14799

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      wtf is their 2257 link going to?
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                                                                                      • who
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                                        • 19593

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        I like their effective use of the free CMS system for the website....

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                                                                                        • NemesiS876
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • May 2006
                                                                                          • 7436

                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          I really don't know that

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                                                                                          • tranza
                                                                                            ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                                            • 57559

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            Originally posted by brand0n
                                                                                            our survay says?!

                                                                                            X

                                                                                            wrong awnser
                                                                                            And what is the right answer?
                                                                                            I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                                            • MattO
                                                                                              The O is for Oohhh
                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                              • 10861

                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              Looks like they haven't updated the site, even their ads from sponsors who have dropped them.


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                                                                                              • ridikuloz
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Jun 2005
                                                                                                • 2080

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                that site looks like it was done by a 10 year old.
                                                                                                Each persons' level of stupidity makes us different.

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                                                                                                • GigoloMason
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • May 2005
                                                                                                  • 742

                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  The lack of respose over shit like this, and people wonder why people continue to be lil scammers. ;\

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                                                                                                  • WZRogeR
                                                                                                    My Sig was too Big! :(
                                                                                                    • Feb 2006
                                                                                                    • 1126

                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    fuck shit!

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                                                                                                    • WZRogeR
                                                                                                      My Sig was too Big! :(
                                                                                                      • Feb 2006
                                                                                                      • 1126

                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      shit shit!

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