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Old 10-30-2006, 12:15 PM   #51
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Old 10-30-2006, 12:17 PM   #52
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now that i think about it... i have been all over finland and never noticed any shitty areas. same with sweden (except for a couple areas of stochkolm). one of the things i like most about scandanavia.
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you dont like america then leave
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Old 10-30-2006, 01:47 PM   #54
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you dont like america then leave
Wow so clever.
Why should those that dislike what is happening and has become of this grand idea leave?
Or is it expected to go along with everything and just swallow it?
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I'm so sick of this shit. I hate it when people here (the town i live in) say "i want to get out of this shit hole". I want to punch those idiots in the face because the town i live in has everything! They don't know how good they have it. They move to another place and come back here 2 months later telling me how bad that place was...

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Old 10-30-2006, 02:37 PM   #56
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Shouldn't the better response be "If you don't like it, then work to make it better"?
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Old 10-30-2006, 03:17 PM   #57
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Wow so clever.
Why should those that dislike what is happening and has become of this grand idea leave?
Or is it expected to go along with everything and just swallow it?

b/c you arent doing anything to make it better

put up or shut up


how have YOU tried to make this country better? there are a lot worse places to live and people arent dying to gain access to them like they try with america
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To be honest, this is what the rest of the world fears from the self-styled freedom of speech/thought/religon country. If one person raises a thought and idea, there is no actual discussion. Just insults and fear that whats being said may be right, and it's outrageously apparent in the defensive remarks. Now, i'm generalizing, as the same can be said of Canada, but it's so much more apparent how uneducated americans are about what america is actually doing. Yea, there's freedom of press, but chains that were broken centuries ago have only been replaced by the chains of Capitalism. Money isn't made by embarressing or shaming people in regards to their country. Many people in the country throw away lives just to make an impact and their catagorized as "crazy" to help maintain the illusion of "sane" people with $4000 in hundreds in their pockets and can continue playing blackjack guilt free from the knowledge of starving children within 20 miles of their front door.

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Just want for more stupid comments in this thread and your question will be answered
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Old 10-30-2006, 05:20 PM   #61
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How much political freedom do we really have? We are stuck in a rigged system with two parties forced up on us that get all of the money. Our political debates are more than limited, invite only, and with approved questions or talking points being the only thing allowed. Broken and or possibly rigged voting machines. Polling centers that are strategically placed to turn away as many of the poor as possible. We have done away with any real reliable paper trails and must just take their words for it. We have had courts make the final choice. Even then the masses do not vote on or hear issues, they vote on propaganda and hate ads.

I just find it hard to have political freedom when politics follows everyone from the streets to their bedrooms, where politics can lock you up and prevent you from ever voting again. I find it even more unpalatable when you can not be arrested and locked away for an indefinite amount of time on no real charges and not being able to face your accuser nor obtain legal counsel. Yes I am upset we have suspended habeas corpus.
I agree. But that was not my point. The US is fucked up beyond repair. I'm not challenging that. My point was: Which country is better? Can you name a country that offers more freedom than the US currently. I couldn't come up with one so far (which is a sad thought, actually).
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I agree. But that was not my point. The US is fucked up beyond repair. I'm not challenging that. My point was: Which country is better? Can you name a country that offers more freedom than the US currently. I couldn't come up with one so far (which is a sad thought, actually).
you are a fucking idiot that needs to travel beyond the 7-11 at the end of your block. why is it that sooo many inbred fucking retards in the US think its the best place on earth? have you been anywhere else? every traveled? ever lived in other countries?

what makes you think the USA has more freedom than... say Sweden?

jesus. the inbred hicks, this country produces with pride, are just fucking embarrassing.
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Can you name a country that offers more freedom than the US currently. I couldn't come up with one so far (which is a sad thought, actually).
You obviously have a problem with thinking.

Here's a list to start your brain ....

Andorra
Anguilla
Antigua And Barbuda
Argentina
Australia
Austria
Bahamas
Belgium
Belize
Bermuda
Bolivia
Brazil
Canada
Cayman Islands
Chile
Costa Rica
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Ecuador
Estonia
Faroe Islands
Fiji
Finland
France
Germany
Gibraltar
Greece
Grenada
Guernsey
Holland
Hong Kong
Hungary
Iceland
India
Ireland
Italy
Jamaica
Japan
Latvia
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Malta
Martinique
Mexico
Monaco
Montserrat
Netherlands
New Zealand
Nicaragua
Niue
Norway
Panama
Peru
Poland
Portugal
Saint Kitts And Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent
Solomon Islands
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Trinidad And Tobago
Turkey
Turks And Caicos Islands
Tuvalu
United Kingdom
Uruguay
Vanuatu
Venezuela

Sure is a sad thought you could not find one country, tho I'm sure you can find at least two on that list
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You know what he meant.......Mexico ..and yes it is a 3rd World
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what makes you think the USA has more freedom than... say Sweden?
the usa's military service isnt based on conscription
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Is that the only basis on which you can define freedom? Sad.
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And Swedens' are?
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Is that the only basis on which you can define freedom? Sad.
that was the first that came to mind.. i dont really feel like studying sweden's culture at this point, plus he didnt say come up with more then 1
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And Swedens' are?


uh, yeah, thats why i quoted it and posted

try to keep up, this is the 2nd fuck up from you i noticed today
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that was the first that came to mind.. i dont really feel like studying sweden's culture at this point, plus he didnt say come up with more then 1
You need to just feel like studying a bit more to get any clue
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lol, good one mate ;)

it cant be a 3rd world word country because it doesnt have a fucking name yet!
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no no...please tell us more...we love hearing it :-)

ps; when are Americans getting cell phones? enough already....i want one
lol.... spank him
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Who the fuck would want to live in Sweden? They don't speak English.

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Who the fuck would want to live in Sweden? They don't speak English.
Damn.. they got Taco Bell or J C Penny?
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Who the fuck would want to live in Sweden? They don't speak English.
are you trying to out-stupid the americans and plant a stupid flag in this debate for canada?

some of you people should spend some time traveling instead of learning about the world from playstation 2 and war craft.
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are you trying to out-stupid the americans and plant a stupid flag in this debate for canada?

some of you people should spend some time traveling instead of learning about the world from playstation 2 and war craft.
Humor is wasted on you.
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Humor is wasted on you.
ha.. sorry. my sarcasm meter is off today. besides, i am smug and rude and like to think i'm the only one that "gets it" so i get caught off guard sometimes
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You need to just feel like studying a bit more to get any clue
so what makes you think sweden has more freedom than the usa does?
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so what makes you think sweden has more freedom than the usa does?
Why just Sweden? Try any country.... and say why you consider the US has more freedoms than any of them. You presumably know the freedoms of the US - share them..

Andorra
Anguilla
Antigua And Barbuda
Argentina
Australia
Austria
Bahamas
Belgium
Belize
Bermuda
Bolivia
Brazil
Canada
Cayman Islands
Chile
Costa Rica
Cyprus
Czech Republic
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Ecuador
Estonia
Faroe Islands
Fiji
Finland
France
Germany
Gibraltar
Greece
Grenada
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Holland
Hong Kong
Hungary
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India
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Japan
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Liechtenstein
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Mexico
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Niue
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Peru
Poland
Portugal
Saint Kitts And Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent
Solomon Islands
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I am not poor by most standards just as you are far from rich by most standards.

You are correct though I can not argue with a free economy since we do not have one.

So again what makes America "rock"?
Because some people make enough or more than enough money to rise from the standard? Every third world country has those people.
I can tell you what makes us rock. I can be any religion I want without being persecuted, I can wear what I want, say what I want, go where I want, and do what I want. I live in country where women have the same rights as men. That is a hell of a lot more then a lot of countries in the world. We are not perfect but at least we have freedom. Every country has poor people but at least here we are trying to solve that problem. Stop being a bitch and bashing the US. It is getting old. Sweden by the way has a lot of problems with child porn. They seem to not really care about it.
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You obviously have a problem with thinking.

Here's a list to start your brain ....

Andorra
Anguilla
Antigua And Barbuda
Argentina
Australia
Austria
Bahamas
Belgium
Belize
Bermuda
Bolivia
Brazil
Canada
Cayman Islands
Chile
Costa Rica
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Ecuador
Estonia
Faroe Islands
Fiji
Finland
France
Germany
Gibraltar
Greece
Grenada
Guernsey
Holland
Hong Kong
Hungary
Iceland
India
Ireland
Italy
Jamaica
Japan
Latvia
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Malta
Martinique
Mexico
Monaco
Montserrat
Netherlands
New Zealand
Nicaragua
Niue
Norway
Panama
Peru
Poland
Portugal
Saint Kitts And Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent
Solomon Islands
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Trinidad And Tobago
Turkey
Turks And Caicos Islands
Tuvalu
United Kingdom
Uruguay
Vanuatu
Venezuela

Sure is a sad thought you could not find one country, tho I'm sure you can find at least two on that list
Haha you are a dumb ass. Those countries do not have more freedom then us. Do you know anything about world politics or do you get your info from Cartoon Network? Hong Kong on that list really made me laugh.
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I can tell you what makes us rock. I can be any religion I want without being persecuted, I can wear what I want, say what I want, go where I want, and do what I want. I live in country where women have the same rights as men. That is a hell of a lot more then a lot of countries in the world. We are not perfect but at least we have freedom. Every country has poor people but at least here we are trying to solve that problem. Stop being a bitch and bashing the US. It is getting old. Sweden by the way has a lot of problems with child porn. They seem to not really care about it.
how is any of that different than any western/developed country? you really have no clue. how is the USA better than Canada? i have yet to hear Canadians complaining about their horrible oppression that many apparently feel they suffer from. the USA barely makes top 50 lists for standards of living.

the honest truth is that you guys haven't been anywhere else. you shouldn't even be talking about other countries at all. there is nothing dumber to me than the typical american talking about life in other countries.
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If 3rd world countries would be given the same loan size as the USA then they'd look just as nice...

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I can tell you what makes us rock. I can be any religion I want without being persecuted, I can wear what I want, say what I want, go where I want, and do what I want. I live in country where women have the same rights as men. That is a hell of a lot more then a lot of countries in the world. We are not perfect but at least we have freedom. Every country has poor people but at least here we are trying to solve that problem. Stop being a bitch and bashing the US. It is getting old. Sweden by the way has a lot of problems with child porn. They seem to not really care about it.
If you fix all the other problems on top of child pornography, then child porn would be the biggest problem, right?

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Haha you are a dumb ass. Those countries do not have more freedom then us. Do you know anything about world politics or do you get your info from Cartoon Network? Hong Kong on that list really made me laugh.
I would say those countries aren't manipulated as much by fear.

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Haha you are a dumb ass. Those countries do not have more freedom then us. Do you know anything about world politics or do you get your info from Cartoon Network? Hong Kong on that list really made me laugh.
Really?? Try using a braincell before you make silly claims that all the countries on that last don't have more freedoms than you. World politics has nothing to do with it - neither does the cartoon network.

What exactly are the "freedoms" you claim to have that other nations don't??

I can think of a few all of these countries have that the US does not currently have - but... please continue....
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how is any of that different than any western/developed country? you really have no clue. how is the USA better than Canada? i have yet to hear Canadians complaining about their horrible oppression that many apparently feel they suffer from. the USA barely makes top 50 lists for standards of living.

the honest truth is that you guys haven't been anywhere else. you shouldn't even be talking about other countries at all. there is nothing dumber to me than the typical american talking about life in other countries.
Na.. not possible PP I've got more freedoms than anyone. Can't remember what they all are, but I just know it - don't ask me to explain

PS And my freedoms are massive in comparison to anyone else's freedoms ;-)
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how is any of that different than any western/developed country? you really have no clue. how is the USA better than Canada? i have yet to hear Canadians complaining about their horrible oppression that many apparently feel they suffer from. the USA barely makes top 50 lists for standards of living.

the honest truth is that you guys haven't been anywhere else. you shouldn't even be talking about other countries at all. there is nothing dumber to me than the typical american talking about life in other countries.
So you know for a fact I have not been outside of the US? How nice of you to know what I do and where I go. The same thing could be said about people living outside of the US and bitching about the US. I live in Arizona which has a lot of Canadians that live here in the winter. Believe me they bitch a lot about about Canada. There is nothing dumber to me then a dickhead with to much free time on his hands. Get a job, or better yet a life.
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Really?? Try using a braincell before you make silly claims that all the countries on that last don't have more freedoms than you. World politics has nothing to do with it - neither does the cartoon network.

What exactly are the "freedoms" you claim to have that other nations don't??

I can think of a few all of these countries have that the US does not currently have - but... please continue....
Wow you know what a braincell is. I am impressed. I did not say that the US had more freedom then everyone on that list. Did you even read the list? You clearly do not know what the hell you are talking about. Perhaps you need to go to college and earn a degree. Porn has warped your brain.
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I would like to know why those of you that always bash the US on here do not list the countries you are from? Most be shitty countries if you don't even want to claim them.
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Wow you know what a braincell is. I am impressed. I did not say that the US had more freedom then everyone on that list. Did you even read the list? You clearly do not know what the hell you are talking about. Perhaps you need to go to college and earn a degree. Porn has warped your brain.
The usual blah.... Try reading your words...

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Those countries do not have more freedom then us.
And still no answer as to why "those countries do not have more freedom then us". Hell.. I can think of an easy couple of reasons why they do have "more freedom" - can't you even think of any to support your comment?
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So you know for a fact I have not been outside of the US? How nice of you to know what I do and where I go. The same thing could be said about people living outside of the US and bitching about the US. I live in Arizona which has a lot of Canadians that live here in the winter. Believe me they bitch a lot about about Canada. There is nothing dumber to me then a dickhead with to much free time on his hands. Get a job, or better yet a life.
how do i know you've never been anywhere? i guess you just answered your own question since somehow you were reduced to talking about canadians in arizona to substantiate the notion that your opinions about other countries are somehow valid.

proof once again that the content should be seen and not heard.

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I would like to know why those of you that always bash the US on here do not list the countries you are from? Most be shitty countries if you don't even want to claim them.
Sure.. everyone is bashing the US - they must be terrorists, morons, liberals, idiots, US haters - all from shitty countries All countries outside the US are "shitty countries" eh?

You are making stupid claims about the US. I don't make stupid claims about my country - why do you?
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Sure.. everyone is bashing the US - they must be terrorists, morons, liberals, idiots, US haters - all from shitty countries All countries outside the US are "shitty countries" eh?

You are making stupid claims about the US. I don't make stupid claims about my country - why do you?
I didn't say all other countries are shitty. I asked why you guys never post where you are from. You love to bash the US, but you can't even list your own country? Why is that? Answer the question.
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I didn't say all other countries are shitty. I asked why you guys never post where you are from. You love to bash the US, but you can't even list your own country? Why is that? Answer the question.
OK... Whatever you say. So what countries do you find that are shitty? Please enlighten

In answer to your question... the subject is not about other countries nor does it have any relevance where people live. I don't really give a flying fuck where you live - why should I?

It is you who is making claims that other nations don't have the levels of freedom you have - still waiting for an answer to any of that - tho doubt that will ever be answered. You have said nothing so far - just whined and moaned.
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