Holly Moss and Internet Scams

[thonglife]

Holly,

It's funny how you involve yourself with all these internet scams. I mean.. fucking over affiliates is one thing, however, you seem to making a living at at it. Electracash, Goodthinxx and your latest scam Lustybucks are feeding your family well?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=380824&highlight=hollymoss

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=663011&highlight=lusty

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ight=hollymoss

You always seem to be in the middle of all this shit no matter what. I now see three companies you were directly involved with (and more I'm sure) when people were not getting paid. You are a fucking fraud and a thief.

[seeric]

what happened?

[BobG]

ouch.....

[seeric]

what happened?

[thonglife]

This new program Lusty Bucks pretty much stole several hundred dollars worth of new join traffic from my free sites. She claims to be their representative so her ethics are at stake. Lusty Bucks refused to pay me claiming I sent them "FRAUDULENT" signups. That's the biggest crock and they KNOW IT! These guys are the first program, and hopefully last, I've ever had this happen with.

[BigasMoe]

[WiredGuy]

Why are you bringing up threads that date back to 2004?
WG

[thonglife]

I'm not.. This was a little over two weeks ago..

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ighlight=lusty

The other threads display a pattern of how she is seemingly involved with other's misfortunes.

[Hollywood376]

Originally Posted by thonglife

Lusty Bucks pretty much stole several hundred dollars worth of new join traffic from my free sites.

If you need a place to send those joins, why not try Frogbucks, up to 65% with no cross slaes. console free, yada, yada, yada...

seriously, send me your traffic or i'm going to club a baby seal.

[Just_Dave]

drama time

[thonglife]

Originally Posted by Hollywood376

If you need a place to send those joins, why not try Frogbucks, up to 65% with no cross slaes. console free, yada, yada, yada...

seriously, send me your traffic or i'm going to club a baby seal.

Yeah.. off to do some work now. Nobody likes working for free unless you're an affiliate of Lusty Bucks.

[Daruma]

have known holly for years...

electra / goodthinxxx - she was just an agent - didnt own or run these businesses - no idea about lusty - she is one of the most honest and pure business people in this biz...

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by Daruma

have known holly for years...

electra / goodthinxxx - she was just an agent - didnt own or run these businesses - no idea about lusty - she is one of the most honest and pure business people in this biz...

If you keep playing in shit the smell lingers with you.
A person always should feel good about whom the work for, specially if their name is at all important. One should not be able to use the just following orders excuse.

[RainGurl]

i have known holly for almost 10 years and i find it very hard to believe she'd knowingly scam anyone out of anything. she has superb ethics and has always been a pleasure to do business with. speaking as a former consultant, you don't always have access to as much information about the client as you'd like to. i'd stick with blaming the company, not the consultant.

[CamJack]

I will go on record right now stating that Holly Moss has been one of the most influential women in this business and is a woman of great integrity. She has been one of the only people that I have trusted with the most private of information about my businesses throughout the years. I don't know the full details of your accusations, but I would bet my house you are over-exaggerating or have been given wrong information. I have seen hundreds of people come and go in this business, Holly is not a person that would jeopardize her reputation scamming people.

[DaddyHalbucks]

I have nothing bad to say about her.

Now see my sig!!

;)

[NaughtyAce]

I've known holly for a while and she's been a reliable stand up lady. I think she may be just having missfortune being sought after by un reputable companies...

However, if you do need a good company to send to.. we are as solid as they come and our conversions and rebills speak for themselves.

[OY]

This is the dumbest accusation I have seen in a while from someone. I have known Holly for 8 years or so and she has always shown complete and utter respect for her clients and their clients alike.

[datatank]

Shes hot I wish she would update her site more
http://hollymoss.com/

[Klen]

Originally Posted by Oystein

This is the dumbest accusation I have seen in a while from someone. I have known Holly for 8 years or so and she has always shown complete and utter respect for her clients and their clients alike.

You want to say this is attemp to kill someone reputation?

[OY]

KlenTelaris - It sure looks like it. So I call bullshit.

[abyss_al]

known her forever... no way she'd do anything shady

take it u with the company, not a rep...

[The Adult Broker]

why post something like this? Perhaps you would like to communicate with Holly directly if you have an issue.

[LustyBucks]

We?re sorry that you feel like we?ve taken advantage of you.
First of all, LustyBucks is not a scam by any stretch of the imagination. Our program has been years in the making. Our banners are everywhere, all over the most popular boards-GFY among them. We have print ads running in XBIZ World, AVN Online and upcoming conference brochures. And trust me, that?s just scraping the surface.

I say all of this so you understand why it isn?t in our best interest to ?scam? an affiliate out of a few hundred bucks. Anyone who has engaged in a serious marketing campaign knows the expenses associated with them-and a few hundred, or even a few thousand, doesn?t begin to cover it.

Thonglife, as a LustyBucks webmaster, you generated five successful joins. Here are our reasons for suspending your account, and refunding all the money your joins sent:

• Incredibly high conversion rate for the first sale, a rate of 1:4. Total conversion rate is 1:34.
• Two of the purchases-which joined two separate LustyBucks sites-originated from the same IP.
• There was no member activity associated with either of these new joins.
• Two additional purchases were then made by the same individual.
• Again there was no member activity associated with either join.
• The fifth and final successful transaction came without a referrer. There was not even a raw click associated with it.

We?re not about to deceive anyone about anything. We let you know immediately that those joins looked suspicious. We issued an immediate warning.

So that?s our story on this matter. If anyone has additional questions or comments, Email us directly at [email protected].

Thank you everyone for taking the time to wade through this tedious thread, and for your support.

[B2BwithJoeD]

Originally Posted by LustyBucks

We?re sorry that you feel like we?ve taken advantage of you.
First of all, LustyBucks is not a scam by any stretch of the imagination. Our program has been years in the making. Our banners are everywhere, all over the most popular boards-GFY among them. We have print ads running in XBIZ World, AVN Online and upcoming conference brochures. And trust me, that?s just scraping the surface.

I say all of this so you understand why it isn?t in our best interest to ?scam? an affiliate out of a few hundred bucks. Anyone who has engaged in a serious marketing campaign knows the expenses associated with them-and a few hundred, or even a few thousand, doesn?t begin to cover it.

Thonglife, as a LustyBucks webmaster, you generated five successful joins. Here are our reasons for suspending your account, and refunding all the money your joins sent:

• Incredibly high conversion rate for the first sale, a rate of 1:4. Total conversion rate is 1:34.
• Two of the purchases-which joined two separate LustyBucks sites-originated from the same IP.
• There was no member activity associated with either of these new joins.
• Two additional purchases were then made by the same individual.
• Again there was no member activity associated with either join.
• The fifth and final successful transaction came without a referrer. There was not even a raw click associated with it.

We?re not about to deceive anyone about anything. We let you know immediately that those joins looked suspicious. We issued an immediate warning.

So that?s our story on this matter. If anyone has additional questions or comments, Email us directly at [email protected].

Thank you everyone for taking the time to wade through this tedious thread, and for your support.

Nicely handled. We'll see Holly and Bonnie in LA - Recovered from Hosting Island Gathering with Epoch and looking forward to Webmaster Access.

[thonglife]

Originally Posted by Daruma

have known holly for years...

electra / goodthinxxx - she was just an agent - didnt own or run these businesses - no idea about lusty - she is one of the most honest and pure business people in this biz...

I don't buy that for a second. You mean to tell me she hasn't a clue about her customers/employers?

[thonglife]

Originally Posted by RainGurl

i have known holly for almost 10 years and i find it very hard to believe she'd knowingly scam anyone out of anything. she has superb ethics and has always been a pleasure to do business with. speaking as a former consultant, you don't always have access to as much information about the client as you'd like to. i'd stick with blaming the company, not the consultant.

I'm blaming both of them. I worked for a fortune 50 telecom company for 10 years. We had consultants come and go and I can tell you they we the worst employees around. Not to sterotype consultants, rather, they are just as responsible for any problems should shit hit the fan. They are also the first to run out the door.

[thonglife]

Originally Posted by Oystein

This is the dumbest accusation I have seen in a while from someone. I have known Holly for 8 years or so and she has always shown complete and utter respect for her clients and their clients alike.

Next time you get fucked on your payments.. I'll call bullshit.. DEAL?

[thonglife]

Originally Posted by The Adult Broker

why post something like this? Perhaps you would like to communicate with Holly directly if you have an issue.

Because I'm am owed $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and don't fuck with this shit.

[thonglife]

Originally Posted by LustyBucks

We’re sorry that you feel like we’ve taken advantage of you.
First of all, LustyBucks is not a scam by any stretch of the imagination. Our program has been years in the making. Our banners are everywhere, all over the most popular boards-GFY among them. We have print ads running in XBIZ World, AVN Online and upcoming conference brochures. And trust me, that’s just scraping the surface.

I say all of this so you understand why it isn’t in our best interest to “scam” an affiliate out of a few hundred bucks. Anyone who has engaged in a serious marketing campaign knows the expenses associated with them-and a few hundred, or even a few thousand, doesn’t begin to cover it.

Thonglife, as a LustyBucks webmaster, you generated five successful joins. Here are our reasons for suspending your account, and refunding all the money your joins sent:

• Incredibly high conversion rate for the first sale, a rate of 1:4. Total conversion rate is 1:34.
• Two of the purchases-which joined two separate LustyBucks sites-originated from the same IP.
• There was no member activity associated with either of these new joins.
• Two additional purchases were then made by the same individual.
• Again there was no member activity associated with either join.
• The fifth and final successful transaction came without a referrer. There was not even a raw click associated with it.

We’re not about to deceive anyone about anything. We let you know immediately that those joins looked suspicious. We issued an immediate warning.

So that’s our story on this matter. If anyone has additional questions or comments, Email us directly at [email protected].

Thank you everyone for taking the time to wade through this tedious thread, and for your support.

You know god damn well you screwed me. In over 5 years, I've NEVER seen such a group of clowns try and operate an online biz.. ranking right up there with Ibill. Well.. maybe that's a bit much. However, you assholes did not even attempt to work with me. You shot down every communication attempt I sent stating that all of my joins were fraudulent. Prove it!. You can't! Every join came from a text link hosted on my own network of domains or your one of your own free-hosted galleries. Cut the BULLSHIT. You fuckers simply got slammed with a shitload of PPS joins (1 day) and didn't want to pay.. rather, you fuck the affiliate and keep the revenue.

Be forewarned... Lusty Bucks and THEIR REPS mislead and STEAL.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by thonglife

You know god damn well you screwed me. In over 5 years, I've NEVER seen such a group of clowns try and operate an online biz.. ranking right up there with Ibill. Well.. maybe that's a bit much. However, you assholes did not even attempt to work with me. You shot down every communication attempt I sent stating that all of my joins were fraudulent. Prove it!. You can't! Every join came from a text link hosted on my own network of domains or your one of your own free-hosted galleries. Cut the BULLSHIT. You fuckers simply got slammed with a shitload of PPS joins (1 day) and didn't want to pay.. rather, you fuck the affiliate and keep the revenue.

Be forewarned... Lusty Bucks and THEIR REPS mislead and STEAL.

One of you two is lying really fucking bad.

[thonglife]

Originally Posted by Franck

One of you two is lying really fucking bad.

I've already taken the loss as a lesson in life. Like I said.. this program was the first to ever deliberately screw me out of money. I've bitched and complained about a few other programs here before, however, they always came through with payments... even if did take a year or so. These guys straight up blind-sided the shit out of me and walked with my joins. I know my traffic and yeah.. I get the occassional chargebacks or two every now and then from just about every program around. No problem. These guys.. crooks.

[leedsfan]

Holly Moss is 100% honest and reliable. I trust her implicitly.

[Daruma]

Originally Posted by thonglife

I don't buy that for a second. You mean to tell me she hasn't a clue about her customers/employers?

you have no fucking clue - idiot
electracash - I used todo a huge amount with them monthly and she was nothing but straight up with me about everything there
goodthinxxx - dialers hit a bad time - not her fault

I've known her since Igallery days and she's been nothing but 100% professional and straight-up with me on every business transaction

take a look at who is posting that has done business with her - the endorsements say a lot