Lets face it.... Americans are better people. Anyone that says otherwise are not American!

Of course - We are all God's creatures my son :winkwink:



PS And some of my best friends come from Texas

Basically what it all boils down to. Basically jealousy or hatred of the pread of captilism.
I personally think capitilism leads to the breakdown of society, but that's my PoV. Not intented as a flame.

I think its more a hate love relationship with USA, we love your fast food but hate your violence, we love your porn but hate GWB.. I could even say the same about my country, I love not having much violence but hate not having legal porn.

Some things about the US is good and some things are bad, just more fun to discuss the bad ;D

I agree that this is the current state of the US. But then, it's the state of the rest of the world, too. So it's not really qualified as a criticism of America. I also think your analysis is wrong. The problem is not too much capitalism, but too little. Corporations exploiting government power to beat down better competitors and get subsidies from tax money is not capitalism. In pure capitalism this would not be possible as government power would be too limited. The US was the best experiment in trying to give people liberty so far. Even though it didn't work out as planned, it's still the best we have today.
But I would love to see a place where individual rights would actually be respected and considered inalienable. All we have had to this day were approximations that turned worse and worse.

Let's spin this thread abit, Who here thinks GWB done a good job in Iraq?

I once thought to purchase from you but your big mouth has lost you out on alot of money from me thats for sure.

Think about it Paul. If I walked into a store and was looking to buy something but you are there and you are saying shit like "typical American bullshit" or "The American people are stupid and fat etc" you think Im gonna buy shit from you?

Now thats interesting news

You need a new thread for this let me start it.

50.........

Let's spin this thread abit, Who here thinks GWB done a good job in Iraq?

if you bash my beloved beautiful US of A one more time I'll fuck you up, you African midgets !!!!!!!

That should be the flag the gop waves!

Not really - there just has to be a balnace between captilism (essential for country wealth) and socialism (essential for society's wealth) and the government needs to be involved for both to succeed. Why does pure capitilsm have to be achieved for society to exceed? Look at the state that England is in because of trying to implement this - total capitilistic disarray. Sure, there are the big hitters thriving. There are the entrepreneurs doing well, but communities have been killed off completely (by and large) because no limits were set.

You have to set limits, saying "ok grow, the sky is the limit, but you can't touch x/y/z because that would suppress or eliminate local growth in a/b/c"

As if the GOP is the only one who supports corporate interests. Both sides are crooks, the difference being that they each support different companies/groups.

you wanna a piece of me ?

So you think that never buying content from me is a threat.?

Where did I say that "The American people are stupid and fat etc"

Maybe you think questioning GWB's policy in Iraq is in fact saying "The American people are stupid and fat etc" but the rest of it see it as what it is.

Take your business and stick it up your arse. I need people with a bit more brains than you buying content. Now that is a direct insult to you and not to other US citizens.

WOW I just lost $0.000 business. :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

When you were in the diplomatic corp Paul - how were things? :winkwink:



PS Agree with your decision to reliquish all these valuable dollars on principle :-)

If lying and betraying one's principles cost me some business then so be it. I'm not doing so badly.

Splums principles is to get his business you have to keep your mouth shut whn the US fucks up. Maybe he likes the US fucking up and wants the US to continue, don't know.

But glad he has some principles he sticks to. :thumbsup

Still with the daily babble and lies asswipe.

Jeeez .. It stalks again - You got to be raving mental Sexy Pants :1orglaugh

Did someone let you out to stalk again?

im from the UK, been to the states a lot.. and most of europe.. i can honestly say i was more compfortable in the states.. the american folks really welcomed us, us brits arent always very popular in europe.. too much bad history!

why i hate should americans ? they are people who like porn, and this is why i'm in adult industry, because americans like porn and buy it and i get money from it ..... :)

ofcourse where is a lot of fucked up things about US, but also a lot good things..

whant to see most fucked up life, go to US, you'll see most dumbest people in the world...and fatest too ....

whant to see most good life, go to US, you'll see smartest people in the world ( ofcourse most of them are from japan and eastern european countries :) ) and some of the richiest people in the world....

and one more fact about US... a lot of US dwellers think they live in most Free country in the world, in fact it is opposite , by statistics US is one of most regulated countries, only Cuba, North Korea and some countries are more regulated then US....

I fucking love America. So much so infact I'm gonna move there! You guys can bitch about it as much as you like but the quality of things in USA and pricing of things is much better than in 75% of the world. The 25% where pricing is better I don't wanna live there.

Bring on the USA :)

Just because I live somewhere doesn't mean I like it.

The USA is FULL of fucking idiots. But hold on ... SO is the rest of the world. Fuck... the UK (where I live) has some fucking horrible parts, with some of the fucking most idiotic people in the world. Just because I live here, doesn't mean I can say it's perfect. And someone putting the flag up saying they don't give a fuck about what other people say, is just blind patriotism.

:) There... my two cents and I'll tell you what, probably one of the most non biased replies on here ;)

It's preety normal for some board....
yes some things are over rated,and some are true..
but this is just forum,so it shouldn't bother u.

I don't mind them, let them spew it and get it out of their system

I LOVE AMERICA BECAUSE THATS WHERE MY CHEQUES COME FROM!!!

but they do some very bad things around the world. Some of which needs to be done though.

It's amazing when you think about it for a few minutes.

We are commenting on Americans invading a country on the thinnest of excuses, involving as many countries as they possibly could, messing with the worlds economy and putting the lives of many non Americans at risk. While a few people on GFY think no one should say anything.

If you want us to say nothing invade Ohio and you might find us a lot less critical.

Why I have a right to comment on Bush, the US in Iraq and any other thing I feel like.

IT'S FREE WORLD.
Freedom of speech goes beyond me saying what you want to hear.
I own property in the US.
I pay taxes in the US.
I have a US bank account.
I make my living in the world economy.
I have a relative who has fought in Iraq, Afghanistan and will return there soon.
As a citizen of the world I have a duty to speak out for injustice.
As a traveller I'm at risk and the situation in the Middle East directly effects my safety.

Now then there are Americans without the wit and intelligence to enter into and compete with honest debate. For these their argument is STFU, pity they can't contribute more.

He did and he is:thumbsup

That's because they all get drunk before 1am, are loud, and the ladies are not very pretty either


(hey just kidding:) hehe)

Hehe you are funny, or stupid :D

as far as the US government is concerned the old sayings always come to mind with me, like "its better the devil you know". basically when europe was the main powers we invaded countries like it was our god given right to rule the world, same with the uk.

the US is about the all mighty dollar and thats what motivates them, but they're government cant invade the world without a very good reason because they also claim to be the land of the free and only wanting to spread democracy etc etc.

when china becomes the worlds super power, which will porbably happen in my life time, do you think they will just sit in china and chill? every other country in the world who has become the super power has tried to rule the world (even up and coming nations like germany under the nazis etc), so the chances are china will do the same.

so basically, we can all moan about the US government, but lets face it, i'd rather have them invading iraq for oil than china invading us because they can.

The only thing I can hold against America, is you banned me vegemite. :)

-N

You've said a mouthful there, and it is all sensible and logical.

I think the problem that occurs a lot of the time is people say "those Americans invaded..." and bitch and complain about what they are doing wrong when in fact its the American administration that was doing it.

I don't like the current administration down there, but I do like Americans.

I don't even blame the current administration. I blame Bush and a few cronies around plus some of the ass lickers who refused to stand up to him. Which includes Blair.

Have a lot of friends from the US, love going there, love doing business with them (even with the dollar in the toilet) just hate the invasion of Iraq.

For the record I would even choose to live there, just not anywhere it was possible to make a living. Love the mid West.

So i guess we should leave iran alone and n.korea... fuck it let the world deal with it. Leave saddam in power and etc... I aint gonna say oil wasnt a huge part, of course it is... All wars are based on economics and the game of resources... Either you got it, or you don't! If it wasn't us, it would be china, india, who's economys are now needing oil just as badly to keep up with the growth....

why would we spend BILLIONS / Trillions to help better a country for free. Me as a taxpayer fuck that, when i say wee, I say we = TAXPAYERS! If i am paying ($$$/Lives) I want something in return. Shaving a dollar off every gallon of gas works... World War II paid for itself and then some in business dealings and etc... now is oil & helping the people worth lives well thats another arquement in itself...

In the end, I would have still liked bush over kerry or gore in a time of war.
I know we were getting a war type president rather have him fighting for me than kerry or gore. Gore is busy improving the internet he invented lol

When Bush is out of office there will be relief on all sides in hope of something better but sadly the way our election system is rigged we never really get the BEST people to choose from. Tweedle Dee (Bush) or Tweedle Dumb (Kerry / Gore) Your fucked either way!

I still think Colin Powell would have been a good president. Financially conservative, Socially in the middle!

Your conclusion may be correct - "let the world deal with it". The US never was elected to act on behalf of any other nation. It's prob more than fair to say the current admin had an invasion of Iraq on the table before even reaching office and subsequently lying to the UN and pressing for a resolution.

The current status of Iraq is a mess and reaching the introduction of the "final realization" where the US govt will, whether it likes it or not, sit down with "insurgents" and attempt to negotiate a peace. (Noticed this is now part of options being considered to stem the attacks - we are slowly getting there, but a long way to go)

In total, the US has done extensive damage by raising the "anti" against other nations - which started with the "Axis of Evil" and the nations quoted in that statement have taken defensive steps already.

The US has no "foreign policy" other than wars, threats, sanctions, warnings - diplomatic skills are non-existant. That, together with elements of greed, arrogance and generally playing smartass, have placed the US in the bed it has chosen to sleep in now. Agree - it's not a comfortable bed - and probably going to get far less comfortable before any change.

The obvious division over politics within the US is very unhealthy and damaging - it offers no benefit to the country. A qualified leader may have a chance of shifting/removing that division - the current admin have demonstrated no such ability.

Overall... the problem is not with the world. It's a problem with the US where the world is watching and waiting. Depending on the elected path, we will see an increase in aggressive action towards to US or a cooling of the current overall scenario to a point of irrelevance. It is up to the US to take the action it considers appropriate and be willing to accept the consequences/benefits of that decision. It's not a game of hardball and the next few years will be crucial.