you are not affilated somehow with them?

No idea why you just remove it and what kind of programming is needed for that, but maybe i miss something of couorse.

What stops you to doing this the last 4 weeks?

For me only the final result is of some importance so i pesonally would prefer to see the filesharing and/or torrent site adds gone from your program than reading emails containing mostly "if, when, but, than, ...". But feel free to post the important parts here.

monday bump

What are you bumping for you prick.. Did you not check out the site?

Rapidshare is gone and I`m working on any other file sharing sites that abuse our industry.

i checked out the rapidshare site and still saw and still see the adds borkered there. But yes, you are right, it's gone from your selling adds section which is very nice and good to see. Congrats you made it finally.

I'am happy to see you have done what you promised to do! :thumbsup

Will you tell us why you hate Aga or Netpond so much now? It has to be something, if you look at your posts on GFY for the past month.. you've almost never posted anywhere except to bump this thread and keep hammering away at it.

Will you now be doing the same thing for AdultFriendFinder? They're all over the site.

Hey, you surprise me again, lol. Please go one page back and look please for the post where i already mentioned that i have nothing against netpond, netpondads, aga or whatever they or him is affilated. I NEVER talked with him, NEVER had ANY relationship of ANY kind with him, NEVER was a member of netpond and ones again (and hopefully the last time) it is/was nothing personally. So please stop thinking i "hate" him as there is honestly NO reason for any bad feelings.

And yes, i don't post much here and even seldomly read here as i principally (with some expections) think it's a waste of time to lunger here around for longer as about only 5% ( just a guess ) of the members here read and post seriuously. So much principally why i don't post much here.

And yes, i will do the same with Adultfriendfinder for supporting Zango, no doubt on this. I just begun yesterday with it and one of their support guys

from my ICQ History:
So i hope you see that i personally will not support zango or it's supporters/users. Same is for videoscash galleries affilates which immediatly get blacklisted and posted on cheaterforums when i come across a site using them. I already begun when updating the html of any of my sites to remove the AFF geo banners i use. As i have a lot of sites this will take some time too, but i will promise as well that i will NOT continue promoting them and continously remove the banners/linkings on ALL my sites without expection!!!

And yes, time to follow a thread/discussion about zango and/or AFF, agreed :2 cents:

P.S.: You should not take every critice someone makes personally, or think it's personally!

just out of curiousity, did you remove rapidshare.de only for 1 day? I see it again there. Not that it's vital or very important to me, just curious to see what the reasons are you continue to work with file sharing sites after you stated and claimed that much that you do NOT support such sites?!?!

bump :pimp

Cliff notes:

http://www.netpondads.com/buying-spa...fece22340d831d

Lord Aga - Oct 17th: "Show me one example and the whole program is history."

Lord Aga - Oct 17th: "We will not allow ads to be shown on any site that promotes illegal material."

Lord Aga - Oct 22nd: "The listings will be removed shortly OR I`ll pull the NetpondAds program completely."

Lord Aga - Nov 11th: "I dont own Etology nor Netpond ads, its a white label of the etology product. That said they are busy programming the ability to take various sites out of our white label. Its just not ready yet. If its not done soon I`ll bust out of our contract with them."

Lord Aga - Nov 13th: "Rapidshare is gone and I`m working on any other file sharing sites that abuse our industry."

It is now February 22nd...

I love the AFF, Fleshlight, and SexSearch ads in PureTNA's member area.

Can you link to it? I didn't see it.

just check out etology.com

oh and in case you are replying that this is something different, just have in mind it's the same adress, same office, same company, same everything, just a different domain.

Wow now they have an ad for DDLSPOT which is number #3 here http://www.netpondads.com/buying-spa...fece22340d831d

I don't know if it's just me who doesn't understand some things or if i just don't get them right.

So i see Lord Ago beginning this thread against AFF because they advertise on file sharing programs, i also read a thread on the netpond forum against badoink again for file sharing. Which is really good because i think all that file sharing/torrent and pirate sites hurt us a lot.

But how does it come that netpondads and etology to whom he is affilated somehow is full with file sharing program adds to broker???

If someone is against filesharing and similar illegal and pirated shit than he shouldn't have it in his own house in first place or someone could argue that it has something to do with competition (what i don't hope).


Just some interesting facts as well which i just saw on the xbiz news mail.


And than just read some statements from the Etology guy i had a small discussion on another board (in context for supporting and having a partnership with rapidshare.de):

==> anybody believing this?

==> in other words, they don't care.

==> can't see much difference but ok..

==> i referred him to this thread. So Netpondads can remove sites but etology can't now? Or does it mean that they don't care at etology what adds they broker as it's just a general market place?

==> So they spam daily tgp and adult site owners but aren't aware that filesharing decreases sales more and more?

==> At least more or less a honest statement ..


==> That part should be interesting for Program Owners, Content Providers or people which content get's illegaly up/downloaded 1000's of times daily. I guess they have a different POV on this.

==> Doesn't that simply mean they are well aware with what's going on with rapidshare.de but just continue selling their ads as usually??

bump against support for file sharing sites.

"The law is an ass" is a cliché which is very apt in this context. Since none of Titan Media's product (for example) is in the public domain, it should not be necessary for Titan to have to remind anyone of that in specific terms.

However, I do not believe that the issue here is that current law gives file-sharing sites a loophole. That is an entirely separate topic. Here the issue is whether it is acceptable for businesses operating in an industry which loses millions of dollars a year to such sites, to help them stay in business. That is a question of professionalism and business ethics, not the law.

Since both those terms cause most peoples' eyes to glaze over, let's put it more simply: who in their right minds works with anyone who is busy undermining their efforts? Which is exactly what supporting sites which give away the content we are trying to sell, amounts to.

There isn't a damn thing we can do, except resort to the law, if someone outside our industry exploits weakness in the law. But surely it is madness to support in any way whatsover, any business within our industry which goes that route...

While I respect your stance against rapidshare, zango, and the adult sponsors who work with them, I think you have an agenda against Netpond.

You can't really be this aggressive against the practice, while you proudly push AFF on your sites.

pirates were, are and will be. generated password 8+chars, 3ips max per day (if someone want more, give him more by request), on every pic/vid very little watermark with member name or id. then you can make steps, now you all can only cry... and see in search engines results as this one "hxxp://search.yahoo.com/search?p=as*traf*ic+torrent&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8" first association i found in my brain... traffic is the only way to sell, security is the only way to protect :food-smil

i have said it before and will say it again. I neither have anything against netpond nor against lord ago. And even if it doesn't sound like that, but i have principally sympaties for lord aga as i see from his posts that he is trying something against the file sharing issues, but he should be also an example than and distance hiself from doing business with file sharing sites.
There is no reason why to turn this issue back and accuse that i have anything against him or netpond, it's simply not true.

about my AFF advertisement, i have reduced them 3/4 so far, while i had only AFF advertisment on my site i added now 3 other dating and cam sponsor programs to each which clearly reduces the traffic i send to them. And if you have read my previous post than you would have seen a posted icq conversation with an aff rep where i clearly state my position as wel.
However, i don't think you can compare one issue with the other, due my stats only about 0.05% - 0.1% of my traffic has zango installed anyway, now compare that to the traffic stats of rapidshare.de ( if i remember right it's traffic rank is #6 or so due Alexa).

And there is another difference, i'am not going to get webmasters to join the AFF affilate program but etology for example sends out daily 100's of (Spam) emails to tgp owners trying to get them on board.

So just don't stop thinking or accussing me of something personal with lord aga but tell me your opinion if it's good that these fileshare sites get their revenue through etology/netpondads and that that whole adult industry is hurt with that or not. That it's a much more interesting question and someone can only wonder why program owners and content providers are that passive at all but someone like me has to question it.

good night bumper :thumbsup

well, i missed this thread when it first started last year but just read through the entire thing and can add that anyone who is associated w/ rapidshare.de should be blacklisted wholesale in the adult industry... i can easily say that more content has been traded and dispersed from my paysites through the use of the rapidshare services than any other venue, worse than torrents according to my research and searching for my stolen content online over the years.

rapidshare is a fucking tool for theft, and easier to quantify than the masses of torrent users... while they are all distributed in their practices, rapidshare is the de facto standard for content sharing on forums and blogs, and should be made to suffer for their business model...

think of it this way; when torrent users steal your stuff they just steal it. when they download it from rapidshare links, they are actually *paying* someone else for my content... which one is dirtier seems pretty evident to me..

Puretna now uses
Fleshlight, Platinium Bucks, Sexsearch, Sexbankroll, Adultfriendfinder, Webcamcash, and Python what I can see on the site

come visit smuttybox.com or u'll get aids.

Which reminds me. Anyone who hasn't seen the movie "The Usual Suspects", should.

Dont think those sponsors know that they are used on a torrent site

very well said.

As this all is just obvious that torrent sites are hurting our all business i still wonder why there is NOT more reaction against them.

You sure? All those have a history of dirty practices. :)

wednesday bump

Well what can you do? Torrent sites are not hosting any copyrighted material. You must get the users. Not an easy job. :Oh crap

While torrent sites are in the legal "grey zone", that doesn't mean that members of this industry should help them fuck over the rest of the industry operators by advertising on those sites.

thanks for sharing!!

just don't support them in any way or any other company like "etology/netpondads" that feed and support them and broker their spots/advertising.

couldn't agree w/ you more, any utilizing advertising on those sorts of sites are pretty obviously out to squeeze anything they can out of the playing field w/ no care for damage to others who operate in our arena... also known as *turd-fondlers*.

:2 cents:


back to rapidshare though... anyone hear have experience w/ them when trying to get content removed from their servers? i haven't even bothered in a good while but in the past i have sent their abuse address emails demanding removal of my content from their users diskspace have always gone ignored and unreplied, even when i sent links from the forums, screenshots, etc. etc.. usually these files are password-protected w/ the pertinent passwords posted in the public trading fora... any past experience dealing w/ the beast directly would be interesting i'd think..!

bump for you!