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woj 10-17-2006 05:29 PM

50........

Jenny S. 10-17-2006 05:33 PM

I don't really understand this tread, the situation is well known. Make a blog, draw lots of traffic for your affiliates, have people post copyrighted stuff and claim you have no part in that deal.

It takes only one real infringement lawsuit and only one blog owner or free server provider do some jail time and the whole system is going to fall within weeks.

Rapidshare is based in Germany, the legals situation there does not really support what they are doing. I bet that a decent entertainment lawyer could get them shut down in a heartbeat and have their president do a nice 18 months in prison, not for infringement in this case, but for distribution of pronography.

Here is my solution: Everyone who complains here puts 100 bucks in an account, we form a corporation that represent webmaster's interests, we retain a top notch attorney with an international law firm ,and kick ass. One time.

Lord Aga 10-17-2006 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 11097749)
Just in case someone missed it, Aga here is bitching about AFF, but they're doing the exact same thing by having NetpondAds broker ads for rapidshare.de, a service commonly used for sharing stolen content.

If you are mistaken by any chance then this is going to cost you big time :)

DamageX 10-17-2006 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11098282)
If you are mistaken by any chance then this is going to cost you big time :)

Google rapidshare.de.

Brujah 10-17-2006 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 11098300)
Google rapidshare.de.

You can't even come up with 1 URL to show that your accusation was true?

Lord Aga 10-17-2006 05:46 PM

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hs=Hr...G=Search&meta=

Lord Aga 10-17-2006 05:46 PM

so what are you saying?

DamageX 10-17-2006 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 11098300)
Google rapidshare.de.

I just did this myself, to save you some time. Here are a few links I found:

http://www.fullforum.com/movies/download/1803.htm
http://shadygrounds.com/2006/07/16/xxx-clips-download/
http://www.epicwarez.com/download-FI...OADED-712.html
http://shadygrounds.com/2006/10/13/n...d-tracks-full/
http://www.spamfreexxx.com/Webmaster...15/52034.shtml

DamageX 10-17-2006 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11098334)

I was referring to this:
http://www.netpondads.com/buying-spa...fece22340d831d

Lord Aga 10-17-2006 05:50 PM

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DamageX 10-17-2006 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11098332)
You can't even come up with 1 URL to show that your accusation was true?

See above.

DamageX 10-17-2006 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11098382)
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That proof enough?

Lord Aga 10-17-2006 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 11098402)
That proof enough?

Nope.. that was an edit whilst i checked out what you were claiming :)

Your ass is now mine :)

Brujah 10-17-2006 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 11098393)
See above.

I didn't see NetpondAds on rapidshare. I do see that you can use NetpondAds system to purchase ads on Rapidshare.

DamageX 10-17-2006 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11098439)
I didn't see NetpondAds on rapidshare. I do see that you can use NetpondAds system to purchase ads on Rapidshare.

Yep, which is exactly what I was saying. They broker ads for rapidshare.de, which is commonly used for sharing copyrighted material.

Lord Aga 10-17-2006 05:58 PM

My last lawsuit gained me $1.6 million

The one before gained me Netpond

Apologise or you will be number 3

We will not allow ads to be shown on any site that promotes illegal material.

Jenny S. 10-17-2006 06:05 PM

Does anybody know what server providers rapidshare uses, or are they using their own? Even if they must have a line with Telkom, the conservative partially government owned german telephone company. Plus, they seem to be located in arch-conservative, republican dominated, catholic Suebia. Not a good place to stand an obscenity lawsuit. Why not take them down? Think about it.

DamageX 10-17-2006 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11098466)
My last lawsuit gained me $1.6 million

The one before gained me Netpond

Apologise or you will be number 3

We will not allow ads to be shown on any site that promotes illegal material.

rapidshare.de is used for sharing copyrighted material. Netpondads brokers ads for rapidshare.de. If you want to sue me, then go ahead. YOU HAVE NO CASE. I know you have it in for me, but I have no intention of apologizing for pointing out the obvious. I am sure you have very intelligent attorneys who will point out the exact same thing.

pornonada 10-17-2006 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11098466)
We will not allow ads to be shown on any site that promotes illegal material.

Why is rapidshare.de than your #1 spot on your sales page (By Adds) on NetpondAds?? Somehow this does not make any sense when you claim you don't allow to show adds, but the first spot is Rapidshare.de under ALL Websites you offer Adds.

Brujah 10-17-2006 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenny S. (Post 11098522)
Does anybody know what server providers rapidshare uses, or are they using their own? Even if they must have a line with Telkom, the conservative partially government owned german telephone company. Plus, they seem to be located in arch-conservative, republican dominated, catholic Suebia. Not a good place to stand an obscenity lawsuit. Why not take them down? Think about it.

I wonder too Jenny. I've seen you make similiar posts but as usual, most GFYers just don't really care enough to do more than debate it. If you get someone to bite, you can have my $100.

pornonada 10-17-2006 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11098592)
I wonder too Jenny. I've seen you make similiar posts but as usual, most GFYers just don't really care enough to do more than debate it. If you get someone to bite, you can have my $100.

very true, i'am in as well!

Brujah 10-17-2006 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornonada (Post 11098552)
Why is rapidshare.de than your #1 spot on your sales page (By Adds) on NetpondAds?? Somehow this does not make any sense when you claim you don't allow to show adds, but the first spot is Rapidshare.de under ALL Websites you offer Adds.

If Aga can do anything about it, you can bet it won't be there much longer and that he was probably not aware. I think that DamageX knows this about Aga too. Unlike others who shrug it off, he has no problem stating he's against this shit and will not accept it. Most people that know Aga, know this.

JD 10-17-2006 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11098466)
My last lawsuit gained me $1.6 million

The one before gained me Netpond

Apologise or you will be number 3

We will not allow ads to be shown on any site that promotes illegal material.


http://www.sneakycracker.net/images/macros/epenis.jpg


You have shit on DamageX for a suit. Seriously it's on the Netpond Ads site that you're selling ads for them. I've got a screen cap of it if you'd like to see

DamageX 10-17-2006 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11098611)
If Aga can do anything about it, you can bet it won't be there much longer and that he was probably not aware. I think that DamageX knows this about Aga too. Unlike others who shrug it off, he has no problem stating he's against this shit and will not accept it. Most people that know Aga, know this.

Actually, me and Aga only crossed paths briefly and unfortunately I don't think that happened in the most positive manner. Nevertheless, if he pulls the plug on rapidshare.de, he has my respect.

Jenny S. 10-17-2006 06:27 PM

Hey, I am in if someone wants to act but I won't do it by myself. We should think about forming an interest group. It pisses me off too that people steal my stuff and seem to get away with it, but I just don't feel like taking on the world all by myself.


Read this:

German Criminal Code

§ 184 Distribution of pornographic material.
1. Who offers pornographic writings (as defined in § 11 Abs. 3) to persons under the age of 18 or displays them in a place where they can be viewed by them... ... will be punished by imprisonment up to one year or a fine.

In case of zoophilia or violence (S&M) it can be up to 5 years in the brigg.

pornonada 10-17-2006 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11098611)
If Aga can do anything about it, you can bet it won't be there much longer and that he was probably not aware. I think that DamageX knows this about Aga too. Unlike others who shrug it off, he has no problem stating he's against this shit and will not accept it. Most people that know Aga, know this.

Maybe, no idea. I don't know him. It's just some kind of "strange" or maybe "ironicly" that someone makes a post on GFY about that torrent sites, accuses AFF, but sells US$ 4000 Spots on one of the biggest such sites too.

Don't get me wrong, i don't support any such sites, they hurt me too.

Just to make sure i don't get a lawsuit too, here a screenshot that proofs at least what i was writing in case it's gone in 5 minutes.

DamageX 10-17-2006 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenny S. (Post 11098685)
Hey, I am in if someone wants to act but I won't do it by myself. We should think about forming an interest group. It pisses me off too that people steal my stuff and seem to get away with it, but I just don't feel like taking on the world all by myself.


Read this:

German Criminal Code

§ 184 Distribution of pornographic material.
1. Who offers pornographic writings (as defined in § 11 Abs. 3) to persons under the age of 18 or displays them in a place where they can be viewed by them... ... will be punished by imprisonment up to one year or a fine.

In case of zoophilia or violence (S&M) it can be up to 5 years in the brigg.

I think that all that needs to be done is for someone to send the right e-mail to the right people and rapidshare.de should be no more. Maybe they won't get thrown in jail, but the site as such will be gone, which is a good step forward.

american pervert 10-17-2006 06:52 PM

looks like aga is too busy eating humble pie to respond

DamageX 10-17-2006 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by american pervert (Post 11098870)
looks like aga is too busy eating humble pie to respond

He's most likely sound asleep right now.

Lord Aga 10-17-2006 07:38 PM

Oh.. im not asleep.. as i said before if you can find a single ad on a torrent site that promotes netpondads than the whole program is toast!

DamageX 10-17-2006 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11099242)
Oh.. im not asleep.. as i said before if you can find a single ad on a torrent site that promotes netpondads than the whole program is toast!

So you're brokering ads for that site but the ads don't show up? Sorry, you lost me there...

american pervert 10-17-2006 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11098080)
Show us the proof. Don't just throw out an accusation without backing it up. Is it that hard to include a URL?

how is this? sure looks like netpond is supporting rapidshare.de unless i am missing something.. can someone please explain how netpond isn't supporting rapidshare.de????? im lost, thanks!

http://randompeople.org/gfy/netads.jpg

Brujah 10-17-2006 08:17 PM

americanpervert, way back in post # 64 I acknowledged that.. before you ever joined this thread. as well, pornonada already posted a screenshot. try to catch up next time.

Captain Canada 10-17-2006 08:19 PM

The main adds for Rapidshare have been coming from etology.com for some time now.

The etotlogy page for Rapidshare is here.

The netpondads page for Rapidshare is here.

The whois info for netpondads.com lists the contact email as [email protected] which you can see here.

If Netpond is brokering etology adds thru their netpond adds they might not be aware of every potential advertiser on their site.

DamageX 10-17-2006 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Canada (Post 11099543)
The main adds for Rapidshare have been coming from etology.com for some time now.

The etotlogy page for Rapidshare is here.

The netpondads page for Rapidshare is here.

The whois info for netpondads.com lists the contact email as [email protected] which you can see here.

If Netpond is brokering etology adds thru their netpond adds they might not be aware of every potential advertiser on their site.

So how's that any different from AFF potentially not being aware of every site their affiliates run their ads on?

Brujah 10-17-2006 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 11099560)
So how's that any different from AFF potentially not being aware of every site their affiliates run their ads on?

How they respond to it once they're made aware of it, is the BIG DIFFERENCE in my opinion. Don't you agree?

DamageX 10-17-2006 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11099567)
How they respond to it once they're made aware of it, is the BIG DIFFERENCE in my opinion. Don't you agree?

Yep. So far the only response from Aga has been threatening to sue me. But I guess the verdict on this one isn't out just yet.

Brujah 10-17-2006 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 11099584)
Yep. So far the only response from Aga has been threatening to sue me. But I guess the verdict on this one isn't out just yet.

I think you're just bitter. I know you saw him in this thread at least twice now say whoever is doing it would be "history" and he made no effort to try and dance around it or suggest that he was in favor of it because it was legal, etc.. etc..

Big difference between the way Aga will do business, and the way certain others will.

DamageX 10-17-2006 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11099605)
I think you're just bitter. I know you saw him in this thread at least twice now say whoever is doing it would be "history" and he made no effort to try and dance around it or suggest that he was in favor of it because it was legal, etc.. etc..

Big difference between the way Aga will do business, and the way certain others will.

I'm not bitter at all and I am by no means trying to take cheap shots at him. The only reason why I posted in this thread at all was the fact that I found it hilarious for him to call out AFF for the supporting content theft thing, when they broker ads for a site widely known for spreading stolen content. He's been hinting at the fact that I need to find a page displaying illegal stuff which has netpondads on it, and he'll take it down. I'd say I shouldn't have to do that. Simply by facilitating it for that site to make more money by brokering ads for them they're supporting them financially, regardless of where the ads appear. I hope you see my logic behind this. And as I said, if he takes it down from their advertising pages, he has my respect for doing so.

pornonada 10-18-2006 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Canada (Post 11099543)
The main adds for Rapidshare have been coming from etology.com for some time now.

The etotlogy page for Rapidshare is here.

The netpondads page for Rapidshare is here.

The whois info for netpondads.com lists the contact email as [email protected] which you can see here.

If Netpond is brokering etology adds thru their netpond adds they might not be aware of every potential advertiser on their site.


ok, let's put this together again:

- netpondads has several etology.com contact emails in their whois
- technical contact in the whois for netpondads and etology.com is the same, [email protected]
- netpondads IP ( 209.34.86.100 ) and etology.com ( 209.34.86.78 ) seems to be on the same network
===> from what i see they are directly affilated to each other, or even owned by the same people.

now let's check this again:
- netpondads is STILL offering adds for rapidshare.de and maybe some other similar sites on their "Buy Ads" Site for a nice price of US$ 4.000
- on rapidshare.de on the mainsite there is an advertisement from etology.com
- really funny thing is that these advertisment is going to AFF again

So the conclusion is so far:

Mr. Aga complains that AFF ads are on torrent sites, but its fine that his netpondads/etology advertises AFF on such sites, hey, that's somehow some new kind of "circle jerk" in my opinion.

pornonada 10-18-2006 03:31 AM

[QUOTE=Brujah;11099605].... him in this thread at least twice now say whoever is doing it would be "history" and he made no effort to try and dance around it or suggest that he was in favor of it because it was legal, etc.. etc..
[QUOTE]

Uhmmm, but you can still see the spots for rapidshare.de on netpondads.com, right? Seems it's not really urgent to remove as if this would have been the case they could be gone from the whole network there in just minutes i guess.

pornonada 10-18-2006 04:04 AM

uhmm, same people:

netpondads.com contact info:

Corporate Headquarters:
Netpond, Inc.
1065 East Hillsdale Blvd.
Suite 306
Foster City, CA 94404
Main: (650) 357-9900
Support: (650) 357-9900


etology.com contact info:

Corporate Headquarters:
Etology, Inc.
1065 East Hillsdale Blvd.
Suite 306
Foster City, CA 94404
Main: (650) 357-9900
Support: (650) 357-9900

AmateurWealth 10-18-2006 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 11090267)
somehow i doubt aff and their 100mil+ a year in processing is shaking at the prospect of being called "cunts" on netpond.


HAHAHAHAHAHAH........:)

wjxxx 10-18-2006 06:10 AM

someone got seriosuly owned :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

fris 10-18-2006 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 11097749)
Just in case someone missed it, Aga here is bitching about AFF, but they're doing the exact same thing by having NetpondAds broker ads for rapidshare.de, a service commonly used for sharing stolen content.

netpondads is nothing, they just resell etology. when i mentioned that on their forum, my post "magically" went poof.

http://www.etology.com/
http://www.netpondads.com

http://www.etology.com/buying-space.php
http://www.netpondads.com/buying-space.php

pornonada 10-18-2006 11:18 AM

time for a bump, not? I'am the only one interested to hear a response from Mr. Aga ??

american pervert 10-18-2006 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornonada (Post 11104394)
time for a bump, not? I'am the only one interested to hear a response from Mr. Aga ??


he's prolly trying to figure out how to sue someone

FM-teem 10-18-2006 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 11089907)
Tell me how to stop it Aga, I'm all ears....


Video a roller super is pleasant to me :ticking

bobby666 10-18-2006 12:02 PM

maybe adultfriendfinder owns the site

Captain Canada 10-18-2006 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11099567)
How they respond to it once they're made aware of it, is the BIG DIFFERENCE in my opinion. Don't you agree?

I agree ... and as we can see from his response .........


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