If you could DOUBLE YOUR INCOME by promoting spyware would you do it? - GoFuckYourself.com

polish_aristocrat · 10-06-2006, 04:00 AM

Ok, seems like there have been lots of threads about installs and spyware recently. I honestly didn't pay much attention to them, only noticed that there's mostly some will69 / DH drama.

anyway, let's see what are the morals of GFY'ers...

Poll is totally anonymous...

hjnet · 10-06-2006, 04:09 AM

Nope, I think honesty and some ethical standards will make me more money in the long run. And considering how many scammers I've seen going down the road I'd guess that I'm right

.:R I O:. · 10-06-2006, 04:16 AM

I'm totally agree what hjnet said!

Jakke PNG · 10-06-2006, 04:16 AM

I'd have a possibility to do a lot of things which would make me more money than I'm doing now, a lot more. But I personally am such an amateur that I only do things I feel are kosher.

fallenmuffin · 10-06-2006, 04:18 AM

Money talks...

en21 · 10-06-2006, 05:53 AM

I will never do that

martinsc · 10-06-2006, 05:55 AM

i don't think i would... BUT if someone was to offer something really big - that might get me thinking...

Sveindt Beindt · 10-06-2006, 05:59 AM

No way,i run a clean biss

pink_in_the_middle · 10-06-2006, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by hjnet

Nope, I think honesty and some ethical standards will make me more money in the long run. And considering how many scammers I've seen going down the road I'd guess that I'm right

I totally agree with you.
Although some people who shall remain nameless don't have standards or morals so they don't give a shit what they're doing, as long as they make cash

pawsregd · 10-06-2006, 06:00 AM

Ya man where do I sign up

wizhard · 10-06-2006, 06:05 AM

No.

Not now.

Not ever.

I hope I see the day soon when those that act as Uncle Toms for these deceptive companies get exactly what's comming to them along with those that design these peices of shit.

IMO they are just as bad as the sneaky dailer download operators if not worse.

ImLost · 10-06-2006, 06:05 AM

never. . .

sixstringmoneymachine · 10-06-2006, 06:11 AM

I don't see the need (or upside) to spit on potential customers and royally sour them on my wares

notabook · 10-06-2006, 06:14 AM

Double? No. Triple? Maybe. Quadruple? FUCK YEAH!

Doctor Dre · 10-06-2006, 06:15 AM

Nop because I'm in this for long term ... and spywares definitly aren't a long term biz move... it will bite the people who use it in the ass.

jayeff · 10-06-2006, 06:20 AM

Anyone who plans to be in a business long-term and knowingly gets involved in things which will damage that business, is an idiot.

psili · 10-06-2006, 06:36 AM

Spyware pushers, like email spammers are fucking criminals that hopefully end up rotting in hell. Fuck them. The billions of dollars spent just putting up with their bullshit should be reason enough to hunt them down like the scumbag assholes they are and killed.

Just my $.02

tranza · 10-06-2006, 06:44 AM

Spyware - hell no!

Adware: Still no, but I thought about it tons of times. And I know I could be banking huge if I was using it. I guess if I ever need some fast money I might try it, who knows.

Miguel T · 10-06-2006, 07:04 AM

Exactly what hjnet said!
Honesty is important.

brand0n · 10-06-2006, 07:06 AM

in a heart beat

you got somethin set up?

Elixir · 10-06-2006, 07:06 AM

I will never do that...

Klen · 10-06-2006, 07:06 AM

No way,i hate spyware.They somuch time fucked my computer.Fortunatily now i have ip cop and nod32 and nothign can pass into my computer anymore.

Dollarmansteve · 10-06-2006, 07:25 AM

I love it when people who sell porn have ethical arguments

If anyone wants to start a thread debating moral relativism - Im game

PS - doing anything that is illegal related to business is retarded. Also, there are lots of legal, opt-in installs vs. illegal spyware/malware, etc

The Demon · 10-06-2006, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

Ok, seems like there have been lots of threads about installs and spyware recently. I honestly didn't pay much attention to them, only noticed that there's mostly some will69 / DH drama.

anyway, let's see what are the morals of GFY'ers...

Poll is totally anonymous...

Morals of GFYers? Are you seriously asking this question? I'm not surprised nobody on here has picked up on the irony and hypocrisy but thats ok, people in this industry are stupid..

Guess what dumbass, you're already promoting pornography for a living because it apparently makes you more money than a normal and respectable career.. But no, if someone is going to promote using spyware to make more money, that's SO immoral, says the porn pusher.. Wow Polish, I wonder if you've ever heard the concept of double standards? In any case you are completely retarded for making such a hypocritical thread..

Quote:

Originally Posted by psili

Spyware pushers, like email spammers are fucking criminals that hopefully end up rotting in hell. Fuck them. The billions of dollars spent just putting up with their bullshit should be reason enough to hunt them down like the scumbag assholes they are and killed.

Just my $.02

ROFL yea, email spammers and spyware pushers are bad people, but porn pushers are ok! Idiot

jimthefiend · 10-06-2006, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

in a heart beat

you got somethin set up?

Yeah, I'd hit that too.

SteveLightspeed · 10-06-2006, 08:00 AM

I've said this before, "This is the only industry that pays itself to destroy itself." And for the record, I've never promoted spyware, nor do I intend to.

Steve Lightspeed

polish_aristocrat · 10-06-2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Wow Polish, I wonder if you've ever heard the concept of double standards? In any case you are completely retarded for making such a hypocritical thread..

yeah and promoting ADULT dating sites with fake profiles, like you did, is completely fine...

jayeff · 10-06-2006, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

I love it when people who sell porn have ethical arguments

Sound ethics are good business sense. But something doesn't become an ethical consideration merely because it isn't illegal.

We all know what pisses off our customers. We all know that pissing off customers is going to cost us money in the long-term. Many believe that cost will exceed any short-term profit, so their opposition to spam, spyware, adware and all the rest, has nothing at all to do with ethics.

OG LennyT · 10-06-2006, 08:05 AM

fuck that... never

u-Bob · 10-06-2006, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hjnet

some ethical standards will make me more money in the long run.

true .

s9ann0 · 10-06-2006, 08:18 AM

if its legal who gives a fuck

Juilan · 10-06-2006, 08:24 AM

With stealware or scumware it makes no sense to. For instance lets say you have a 10K traffic source and throw them at 5 sponsors in a week. Lets say the cookies on those 5 sponsors are good for 1 month. Anyone in that traffic source that you hit with stealware will get infected and your cookies to the the other 5 sponsors will be replaced so you just fucked yourself out of potential sales and settled for .25 per install or whatever they give you.

JD · 10-06-2006, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by spanno

if its legal who gives a fuck

it's illegal in some states. Including Washington state... If you install on someone in WA you can get in a good amount of legal trouble

The Demon · 10-06-2006, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

yeah and promoting ADULT dating sites with fake profiles, like you did, is completely fine...

Lets see what's wrong with this stupidity..
#1. This is about you not me. Only a defensive idiot turns shit around on somebody else.
#2. I didn't do what you just said because you know nothing about it, you have no proof, and you're a stooge that would rather believe something than go out and find out the truth, and it's convenient for you to use in this situation..
So how many times do you have to prove to everyone that you're a blubbering idiot?

Vitasoy · 10-06-2006, 09:03 PM

No because of combination of the last two

videodoll · 10-06-2006, 09:07 PM

no way, once i got surfsidekick downloading stuff and it was terrible. I had to hack my registry to no end. nothing has been quite the same since.

squishypimp · 10-06-2006, 09:08 PM

its wrong, but i can see where alot of people would do it for the extra cash. hell i might if there was cash involved.

IncaD · 10-06-2006, 09:28 PM

Spyware doesn't exactly make for a stable career. if you do it, you'd better be making enough over the short term to make up for long term losses from legitimate income streams that are in limbo while you work with spyware.

also consider that a lot of people who work with spyware or any other "immoral but legal" stuff usually don't have the ability to make that same dollar amount legitimately.

tony286 · 10-06-2006, 09:29 PM

no i like to look at myself.

tony286 · 10-06-2006, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

I've said this before, "This is the only industry that pays itself to destroy itself." And for the record, I've never promoted spyware, nor do I intend to.

Steve Lightspeed

sad but very true

gecko · 10-06-2006, 10:45 PM

Nope, it's wrong, and I don't like the legal side of it

Spunky · 10-06-2006, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squishypimp

its wrong, but i can see where alot of people would do it for the extra cash. hell i might if there was cash involved.

Somehow that doesn't surprise me

TimBlaze · 10-06-2006, 11:29 PM

normally i get money by any means nessecary but nah not spyware

wdforty · 10-06-2006, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squishypimp

its wrong, but i can see where alot of people would do it for the extra cash. hell i might if there was cash involved.

double zero is still zero

Quickdraw · 10-06-2006, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanno

if its legal who gives a fuck

How is Zango doing for you?

Did you know for every computer you get Zango installed, you will never get commissions from those customers for sites like AFF, Cams.com, Webcams.com, Totemcash, and many others? Plus, nobody else but the person that is buying the stolen traffic will ever get credit as long as that shitware is on their system?

Quickdraw · 10-07-2006, 09:46 AM

bump . . . .

Violetta · 10-07-2006, 09:51 AM

it will fuck up your biz and reputation! I'll stay away!

Pete-KT · 10-07-2006, 10:08 AM

No Thanks I would rather make legit money and not feel bad about myself for installing unwanted things on peoples pc's

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 10-07-2006, 11:13 AM

hate spyware and adware.. would never make $$ off of someone elses misery.

The Demon · 10-07-2006, 11:38 AM

Oh yes Pete, legit money on selling porn. Way to go!

View Poll Results: If you could DOUBLE YOUR INCOME by promoting spyware would you do it?
Yes, $$$ is all that matters to me!	31	25.41%
No, spyware is totally wrong!	76	62.30%
No, because I'd be afraid of the legal consequnces	15	12.30%
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10-06-2006, 04:00 AM	#1
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	If you could DOUBLE YOUR INCOME by promoting spyware would you do it? Ok, seems like there have been lots of threads about installs and spyware recently. I honestly didn't pay much attention to them, only noticed that there's mostly some will69 / DH drama. anyway, let's see what are the morals of GFY'ers... Poll is totally anonymous... __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

10-06-2006, 04:09 AM	#2
hjnet Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 3,815	Nope, I think honesty and some ethical standards will make me more money in the long run. And considering how many scammers I've seen going down the road I'd guess that I'm right

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wizhard Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 579	No. Not now. Not ever. I hope I see the day soon when those that act as Uncle Toms for these deceptive companies get exactly what's comming to them along with those that design these peices of shit. IMO they are just as bad as the sneaky dailer download operators if not worse.

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10-06-2006, 06:11 AM	#13
sixstringmoneymachine Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 199	I don't see the need (or upside) to spit on potential customers and royally sour them on my wares

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notabook Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Not a Library! Posts: 9,748	Double? No. Triple? Maybe. Quadruple? FUCK YEAH! __________________

10-06-2006, 06:20 AM	#16
jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	Anyone who plans to be in a business long-term and knowingly gets involved in things which will damage that business, is an idiot.

10-06-2006, 06:36 AM	#17
psili Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Loveland, CO Posts: 5,526	Spyware pushers, like email spammers are fucking criminals that hopefully end up rotting in hell. Fuck them. The billions of dollars spent just putting up with their bullshit should be reason enough to hunt them down like the scumbag assholes they are and killed. Just my $.02 __________________ Your post count means nothing.

10-06-2006, 06:44 AM	#18
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Spyware - hell no! Adware: Still no, but I thought about it tons of times. And I know I could be banking huge if I was using it. I guess if I ever need some fast money I might try it, who knows. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

10-06-2006, 07:04 AM	#19
Miguel T ♦ Web Developer ♦ Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Full-Stack Developer Posts: 12,472	Exactly what hjnet said! Honesty is important. __________________ Full Stack Webdeveloper: HTML5/CSS3, jQuery, AJAX, ElevatedX, NATS, MechBunny, Wordpress

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10-06-2006, 07:06 AM	#22
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	No way,i hate spyware.They somuch time fucked my computer.Fortunatily now i have ip cop and nod32 and nothign can pass into my computer anymore.

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Dollarmansteve Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: T.O. Posts: 2,849	I love it when people who sell porn have ethical arguments If anyone wants to start a thread debating moral relativism - Im game PS - doing anything that is illegal related to business is retarded. Also, there are lots of legal, opt-in installs vs. illegal spyware/malware, etc __________________ I died.

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Juilan Sultan of Swing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: XXXodus Posts: 15,141	With stealware or scumware it makes no sense to. For instance lets say you have a 10K traffic source and throw them at 5 sponsors in a week. Lets say the cookies on those 5 sponsors are good for 1 month. Anyone in that traffic source that you hit with stealware will get infected and your cookies to the the other 5 sponsors will be replaced so you just fucked yourself out of potential sales and settled for .25 per install or whatever they give you. __________________ My Best Converting VOD Sponsor \|

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10-06-2006, 09:08 PM	#37
squishypimp PostMaster General Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 10,781	its wrong, but i can see where alot of people would do it for the extra cash. hell i might if there was cash involved. __________________ Signature For Sale

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IncaD Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,524	Spyware doesn't exactly make for a stable career. if you do it, you'd better be making enough over the short term to make up for long term losses from legitimate income streams that are in limbo while you work with spyware. also consider that a lot of people who work with spyware or any other "immoral but legal" stuff usually don't have the ability to make that same dollar amount legitimately.

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	no i like to look at myself.

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10-07-2006, 09:46 AM	#46
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