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Seems you sort of forgot about telling people about the $300 payment huh? |
300 payment? what? you can contact me if i owe you money. :) icq 312352846
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ohh what is 300$ sorry.. you can contact me 312352846
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no more pain!!!!
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anways that 300$ she sent a few months ago was from 1500+ money she owe me. what the fuck are you talking about? you need to atleast read the whole thread asshole! :321GFY |
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First I would like to truely apologize to Paul I miss read the post ..
Tender I have contacted you several times and you are making this sound like you did 1000's of galleries and never got a dime.. I sent you 1000's 1000's of dollars for your work. There were also several times that the date the galleries were due you did not make the deadline and I had to do the galleries.. You would then get the galleries done so there would be duplicate galleries that i never paid for, but you still charged me even though they were past the deadline... Quote:
The tour was not even close to finished and why would you even think you would get paid for what you sent 3 months after the client backed out !! There are even a few occasions where my clients would come to me because you had been paid for work and they had not seen much results from you ... You would me and ask me not to tell them you were online ( Bikini Guy ) And I ended up doing the entire paysite in one weekend cause he needed it ... There are soo many other people you have done galleries for and because you do act very childish you didn't get paid for LOTS of galleries .. And what did I do to help you? .. I contacted clients and sold the galleries for you so you were not out that money on your work .. And these were not contracted thru me it was your deal... But again I reached out to help you like i did 100's of times in the past..Whether to help sell your work or to spend HOURS every night on ICQ talking you down when you were drunk and incredibly depressed. I had things I needed to do, but I felt I had to put it aside because of the things you were saying about yourself and your life. I won't go any deeper in it than that. You have already said that you were paying me for the hosting, etc. You also have never tried to work out anything about that for us to come to a final price. The amount you say you are owed seems to change every other day. Some of the emails you sent me I couldn't even make heads or tales of because you were so drunk that it wasn't even English. Threatening to post my bank account?? The account number I gave you is completely real. Bikini guy had a problem sending money to the account. MrNiceGuy had problems as well. My account wouldn't send international wires to you for some reason. You can say it's a false account all you want because that is a complete lie. This is the last time I am posting in this thread to you. The purpose of this thread was for me to come into it. I have done that. It has not been 9 months since you have gotten paid. I've sent you several payments inbetween when we stopped working together and now. You'll be recieving an email from me shortly. To anyone else coming to their own conclusions about this thread, that is your right. But things go much further below the surface than what you'll read here. |
I just want my thexy gay homosexual toon that Zuzana has been promising me for 3 months now..... :Oh crap
You make bunny cry........ |
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about the paysite. you remember the girl who you said was a dumbass? we worked for the paysite but yes i didn't even said all are done. please you can read it on my last reply to you. as for the money owe. do you want me to post it here? its not becuase the amount of money change everytime i post. this is my email a few months ago... hey sarah, when do you think you cans end me money on epass? im kinda in need of money :( so you sent 300$ few days or a week ago. the money owed was 1292. just send 900$ if thats fine with you. hit me up if you have time kind regards, jef that email was from august 22... im sure you received that co's you made a reply for that. Hello, I will get you at least 500.00+ this week.. I may have to do a WU as one payment came into my bank and I can't do international wires for some reason.. hope all is well and I will talk to you soon Sarah i edited the email for you. you sent that august 28. ok.. just stop posting bullshit here stay on topic. as ive mentioned here you can either email me or contact me on icq. who won't be piss with this situation sarah? |
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It seems like they take on way too much work. The average wage in the phillipines is about $250 a month...these guys get greedy, take on more work than they can handle...and postpone and postpone...and people end up cancelling...but when they don't have much work..they will go back and do your cancelled jobs and expect to get paid. Constant excuses "my monitor died, and I need to buy a new one but I don't have the money"...a guy that is making 10 times the average wage in his country, can't afford to replace a monitor....but in realtiy, you know his monitor is probably just fine...he is just trying to get you to buy him one. Then there is the constant items they want you to send them because they are not available in thier country...and then the talks beging about how they would love to live in the US....and in the end you know that is what they want. A free ride to the land of opportunity. |
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if someone claimed i owed them money... and i did not... i would just come out and say "i dont owe you shit!" you should leave all the personal shit out of it... 1. i owe you and youll get paid as soon as X happens 2. i dont owe you and you'll never extort money from me just my opinion |
Sarah I haven't done business with you, I don't want to put you down by any means and I don't have anything against you. But this problem would have been best resolved in private on icq/email/phone. And still should be done in private.
I don't think this is doing you any good. My suggestion, get on icq or whatever means you contact tenderobject, work out a payment plan that's workable and acceptable to both of you. carrying on in public is absolutely not good business. All the best to the both of you hope this thing gets worked out amicably and fast. From my experience disputes brought out in public go off track, become a drama, greta for board owners who get posts but do nothing to get both parties to resolve their differences. My 2 cents. |
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will expect email from you.. im sick with drama you know that.. fix your responsibility then you can expect me to shut up! im done with this. |
Is Zuzana Deisgns a design company, an outsource company or both? It sounds like a good amount of work is being outsourced.
Is this a common thing among design companies? |
These threads scare me when I need to pick designers.
One doesn't pay for whatever reason and another is suicidal. |
hmmm, while maintaining contact may have left something to be desired, the end product produced was of a fine quality and it did get here in time. That was my experience with her.
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Like I said in another similar thread, the modus operandi of a clever scammer is to do satisfactory work for some, then scam the rest.
This way, they can ensure that gullible people post good things about them on boards, whilst still having a degree of 'plausible deniability' when it comes to answering their scam threads. |
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Ok, seriously, WTF? Things like this are between the two of you and have no business being aired out at random. It comes across as completely unprofessional and shows incredibly poor taste; especially when it has absolutely nothing to do with the thread... |
wow theres alot going on in this thread
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Seems Zuzanna spends more time telling these people she owes money reasons she shouldn't have to settle the bill then she does settling the bills. I've never hired her company, so have no first hand knowledge of how she works, but her public defense strategy really needs work.
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get this settled folks... :(
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tender - you are embarrassingly disorganized by anyone's standards and you'll continue having problems in business if you don't do something about that. Zuzana Designs - however tender may have irritated or inconvenienced you, you have no right to not pay him and unless you're willing to answer the following questions, and honor your responses to them, you are simply a thief. do you owe tender money or not? if so, how much do you owe him? do you intend to pay tender? if so, when and by what means do you intend to pay? :2 cents: |
shit happens. take downpayment. especially on subcontracts.
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exactly, business management 101 please |
hmmm... and belive it or not this is the calm before the storm... we'll see....
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tenderobject is a good guy
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oh lordy.. again :(
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I don't think that Zuzana is a quote "scammer"...
...They just are not as good at what they do than other firms. The quality of work is dependant on who they choose to do the work and communication seems to be suspect. They also seem to ditch situations rather than work to resolve behind the scenes. The result of this is all the complaints you see on GFY. However, their prices are lower than the top firms so the CLIENTS have decided to take the chance. Clients take the hugest risk to save a buck and it often takes years to learn the lesson that quality firms cost more because their work and communication is RELIABLE. We all choose who we do business and we evaluate based on many things. 90% of our new clients come to us with bad previous experiences with the design/development industry. 95 times out of a 100 it is because they tried to save money and took a risk. When I take a risk...i except the fact that I might lose out. I'm not happy if I do lose...but I accept that risk. It will never stop to amaze me how many people knowingly take risks with poor reputation companies and then they get burned. This commentary really has nothing to do with the tender situation however. This is just commentary on design/development firms that constantly get called out as a scammers and why people continue to choose them. |
well said bluewire.. anyways, we're trying to solve the issue although haven;t heard from her since i sent her the list of the work we made for her and the money owed. cross your fingers! thnks guys. i hate drama and i hate calling out people specially old friends. oh well, bussiness is bussiness... theres a lot of things to learn in every industry.
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