GFY Mods - Why was my epassporte thread closed???

[THY]

link: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/662954-epassporte-drama-2-hacked-webmasters-money-returned.html

just wondering because i had couple guys ask me about what happened to the call with chris and told me they couldnt post in the thread.... i didnt ask for it to be closed so just wondering...

btw the conference call is today.

thanks.
thy

[AdPatron]

It was the mob that closed it.

[gangbangjoe]

Originally Posted by JoesTraffic

It was the mob that closed it.

respect the power of the M.O.B

[Daruma]

why would it be closed? nothing bad in there..

[JD]

because they didn't like what you were saying. Remember GFY is a totalitarian regime not a democracy. You can be silenced for any number of reasons.

[Holly]

illuminati

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by Holly

illuminati

... Those guys also runned The Texas Chainsaw Massacre BEWARE .

[jayeff]

In your next thread about EP, write about how you found God in your ATM. You will probably get shut down even faster

[OG LennyT]

Originally Posted by jayeff

In your next thread about EP, write about how you found God in your ATM. You will probably get shut down even faster

[cyberstar]

do you advertise on GFY? epass does ;-)

[scottybuzz]

[DarkJedi]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nazi+mod

[LaoTzu]

Looking forward to hearing what they have to say for themselves...
Good luck, THY

[THY]

it was posponed again till next monday

anyways im still waiting an answer on why was the thread closed....

[Fabien]

[THY]

someone can show this thread to some GFY mods?

or are they just ignoring it? i cant think of a reason for closing the thread... it was a thread with 5 pages and everyone was expecting some conclusion...

[RevSand]

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

because they didn't like what you were saying. Remember GFY is a totalitarian regime not a democracy. You can be silenced for any number of reasons.

That can be said for any forum on the 'net...

[squishypimp]

gfy can do whatever they want.

[marketsmart]

Originally Posted by Daruma

why would it be closed? nothing bad in there..

i know...hmmm....

[MaddCaz]

no Mod respose = no love

[THY]

and nobody cares?
sorry i didnt know things were like this here... so much talking and fighting for the webmasters rights and the free speech coalition and shit.....

this sucks...

[JD]

Originally Posted by RevSand

That can be said for any forum on the 'net...

yeah very true. but GFY is like Iraq n shit lawl

[Daruma]

bump for the mods ;)

[chixyvero]

heummmmmm

[THY]

good stuff, next step will be to ban me i bet

[MarkMan]

why would they ban you ?

this is GFY.. I think they just wanted to slow down the talk until the conference call.

yes epass is a sponsor but no way Playboy will become a bitch for any sponsor.. they can and will be helpful to the sponsor .. like stop that thread to give epass time to correct the problem with you.. but that's it

no one will ban you over having gotten hacked.. that will be self destructive for gfy.

relax .. and do your thing

BTW

it could be the hacker send your money to his one ID then from that id to a few more small IDs and took the money as cash from each.

Epass is like cash .. once its paid their is no going back you should not keep large amounts of money on their system or any such system

they should put an additional pin when a new ip gets into your account one that is sent to your email .. e-gold style it works a bit.

[MarkMan]

actualy .. just noticed this..

Originally Posted by Chris Mallick View Post
There can only be 2 possibilities: You either made the transactions yourself; or you have been the victim of a Phishing attack. The latter is what our data supports. Nothing, however, supports all of this ePassporte bashing. You have been in contact with our CS people and Risk people. Your issue is being addressed, as I will describe for the audience later in this post. I am, as a result of this post and a few others, changing our Policy regarding Board posts (see the end of this post for that information).

Now, to your specific issue:

Assuming you were the victim of a Phishing attack, our policy is and has always been to return funds IF THEY ARE WITHIN OUR SYSTEM, if the fraud claim can be reasonably substantiated. We would typically believe that you were the victim of such an attack and your funds would be returned IF we could recover them from within our system. That is to say, if the funds were transferred to another eP client, we would roll back that transaction and credit your account, possibly blocking both accounts until the issue is sorted out.

What happened here is that 1 hour after 2 transactions were run, you called the Call Center. The transactions were at a merchant outside of our system. The funds were gone at the point of authorization through the Visa system. Effectively we have to pay that (those) authorized amount(s). We have done so, as it is not even an option to not pay a Visa Interchange Demand.

The answer as to how these amounts could be done in such close time proximity and in such ?high amounts? (they were $500 btw) is simple: You are an ePassporte Select Card Holder. You authenticated yourself and requested higher spending limits. These were all Virtual Visa transactions. They were fully authenticated with card expiry date, CVV2, address verification. This further supports a Phishing attack.

As you know, the only way to access the ePassporte account is to have the User Name and Password ? none of the transactions you claim as fraudulent are P2P; they are all Virtual Visa transactions. The only way to complete a Virtual Visa transaction is to have ALL of the Card Holder data. Nobody in our company, not one single person, has that data. It is an outside, Visa approved vendor?s data base, not ours. The communications between you and us, when it comes to password authentication or changes to any data requires this vendor?s involvement for verification. They have not been hacked or compromised. This is a fact. And this is not an inside job, as some have suggested. In fact, this sort of fraud happens all the time, as I am sure you are aware from just reading any publication. We are fortunate to have had only a few cases of this at ePassporte.

More importantly and most telling as to the fact that this is a Phishing attack: You share an IP with an ePassporte Card Holder that has been the victim of a Phishing attack in the past.

All of this, to our Team, suggests clearly that you in fact are a victim to this type of fraud. Lately the fraudsters are sending emails asking you to click a link to get to the Message Center. We would never do this. Some people click the link and enter their User Name and Password without even thinking. There are many scenarios one could think of when understanding that you share an IP with a know victim?s machine or system.

Again, had the funds not left our system, we would have been able to recover them and return them to your account. As it stands, the funds were properly authorized and are gone. Certainly you can understand that our policy must be as stated. If it were different, we would become victims of fraud, over night, with fraudsters attempting to spend funds and then recover.

As you also know, we have begun our Dispute Recovery Process. Unfortunately you have stated to our Team that waiting for the recovery was too long of a process. Be that as it may, we are attempting to recover the funds. This is our procedure: to first go to the Merchant and ask for a credit, then go the chargeback route, although this is cumbersome. If we issue a chargeback you will get the funds credited to your account, however, the funds would then be blocked for your use in our system for several weeks or months, as this process is easily reversed by the Merchant by Representing the original transaction. As the transaction was fully authenticated there is a good chance a chargeback issued by us for you would not stick and the transaction would end up where you are today. So as you can see, getting a credit is better and faster than starting down a chargeback route, which could take up to 6 months. These are not our time periods, rather Visa?s. Those are the rules. We will however go the chargeback route, as you have claimed fraud, if we are unable to get credits. Getting a credit is difficult as well, again as these are fully authenticated transactions.

We follow all Visa rules when it comes to these things. We are truly sorry for anyone that is the victim of any type of fraud. We do everything we can to help you avoid becoming such a victim. But given your shared IP with an admitted victim, we are pretty sure that this is what has happened.

Again, we are sorry for the loss of your funds, however our policy is consistent with all Issuers of Visa cards and we are unable to recover your funds without going through the process described above.

ePassporte is a trusted brand in the Adult space. We have thankfully only had a handful of these attack victims. We believe that we do a better job than most in protecting data security. Our track record is long and successful. We do not want to lose the trust of anyone, however, our policy is not going to change.

Lastly, I want to understand why, when you know fully what we are doing to recover your funds, you would start a thread like this? I assume it is to try and pressure us into just giving you money. I hope I am wrong. I won?t reply to any more posts here, I think my answers and descriptions are clear and detailed. If you, or anyone, has a question about this or any other issue, please contact me via email: [email protected] I will always do my best, as will my Team, to answer Card Holder questions. But issues like these are not for discussion on Boards. They involve financial transactions, fraud, data and procedural security and the like. I am sorry that there are those out there that love to take shots at our CS and our operations ? it is easy to see their motives. All we ask is for you all to take a look around at the biggest and most respected names in Adult and they will all tell you that ePassporte is their currency of choice. We strive to do better everyday and we always welcome constructive criticism and positive advice from those that are not trying to simply tear down what they do not understand or can?t compete with, fairly.

C


PS:

A new Board Policy is now going into effect: ePassporte will not post on any board or in any forum in response to Card Holder specific issues. We will be here to answer general, serious questions about our products and services. Keyser (Michael) will still be here daily, but will only post in threads as described above.

This policy is to allow us to operate our business properly and professionally and privately. And again, I am always available by email.


C

so they closed the Thread becouse their is nothing more to say

[Daruma]

Originally Posted by MarkMan

actualy .. just noticed this..





so they closed the Thread becouse their is nothing more to say

they closed the thread because there was nothing else to say? give me a break - they closed it because Chris or someone from Epassporte called and bitched...

[MarkMan]

yaa, but whats the point in posting anymore on that thread?

we all know Epass in in deep now days.. too many things "the casinos" this s*it .. their new policy Chris just implemented.. with all the money they are going to loose from the casino industry and now having new stupid experimental polices put into place

i don't know how much longer they have left.. but i was amazed before what companies can survive.. so we will see.

[Daruma]

still its stupid, that means the lars threads are under threat to get locked also because they advertise? any thread about any sponsor can get locked just because the advertisers complains... what are the limits - as far as I see in the locked thread there was no gfy rule broken

[THY]

Originally Posted by MarkMan

yaa, but whats the point in posting anymore on that thread?
.

the point is that there were lot of webmasters expecting reply to the unanswered questions....

if you read the whole thread you will notice and thats why the conference call...

i had to create a new account, pay the 40 bucks... which i dont care.. but i got my account blocked and if it was just that someone got my password then should be enough to reset it and keep my account live...

[woj]

email lensman to start the appeal process...

[woj]

Originally Posted by MarkMan

actualy .. just noticed this..





so they closed the Thread becouse their is nothing more to say

so in translation: Board drama was hurting our biz, so from now on we will lock any epass bashing threads....

[Mpegmaster]

[split_joel]

a late bump for THY

[Michael O]

Originally Posted by split_joel

a late bump for THY

This issue were resolved as far as I know.


We talked on ICQ and I offered you that we would look over any issue you had with ePassporte again.
You refused to give me any information about the issue instead you resorted to name calling.

I have offered to help you and you declined and instead act like a child.
Makes it hard for me to take you serious.

[Agent 488]

cuz it sucked dirty franck ass.

[split_joel]

Originally Posted by Michael O

This issue were resolved as far as I know.


We talked on ICQ and I offered you that we would look over any issue you had with ePassporte again.
You refused to give me any information about the issue instead you resorted to name calling.

I have offered to help you and you declined and instead act like a child.
Makes it hard for me to take you serious.

Actually I did offer you a thread and you said there isn't much you can do because Chris is the owner of the company so shut your mouth. Also want to talk about acting like a child? Look at most of your bosses post in all the hate threads of epass. Don't know if you noticed but there is more hate threads then good threads about epass.

[Love Sex]

Originally Posted by MarkMan

actualy .. just noticed this..





so they closed the Thread becouse their is nothing more to say

is that what happens when your money gets stolen from epass.

[MarkMan]

lol did i get myself in shit with that one

[studiocritic]

i'd post my opinion but i'm afraid epass would empty out my account..

oh wait, i don't do business with shady outfits that are wannabe offshore banks.

epass sucks.

[rowan]

I'm pretty sure that it used to be a basic rule that you couldn't ask about a closed thread, since it was done for a reason... looks like that has been relaxed now

http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html