so what are the options?

:thumbsup

Do I need to have EU region company or any country?

bump for all

so i guess visa options for canadians are even more tighter

unless she ever plans to market to the US ..

:Oh crap

We are in the same boat. We need to be able sell memberships and tangibles, and we are in Canada, but I think we may have found an answer. I will let you know if it turns good.

Aussies and Canadians are all in the same boat. It's not a good situation for any of us.

True... it's the same for us in the VISA Caribbean and Latin American region - but no biggie! It is well worth setting up corps wherever you need them - the net is international? :)

Highly recommend you arm yourself with whatever corps you may need - and one area worth having a corp for processing purposes, is in the EU.

There are several processors in the EU, but would suggest you have a look at SegPay.com and Verotel.com - both stand out in that they are prob the only TTP's who operate a biz model which provides security for webmaster funds :thumbsup

Where is WOJ? :winkwink:

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

does segpay handle subscriptions and cc processing like ccbill??
or do you need to have a merchant account?

this is indeed a pathetic situation. I have used nikrobliing in the past...somehow clients did not feel enthusiatic about them

To process with segpay, you must have EU address.

ok. thanks
that leaves ozzies/canadians and carribs out !!:mad:

RegUser, try hughesbilling.com They responded to me pretty quick, and will take Canadians.

Just do me a favour and tell them Jake sent you.

Na RegUser - just get an EU corp. It's not likely to cost any more than paying a VISA US fee and SegPay will prob be able to help you out on that :thumbsup

You got to follow the money my man :-)

Yes Bro but what about legal implications?
And what happens to my canadian inc. that is using ccbill US?

I certainly will look at them n let em know who sent me their way ;-)

SegPay can handle subscription based processing. We will require that the merchants we process for have an EU corp as we are an EU IPSP.

At this time we can not process for tangibles. :(

If you need some more information about our services or setting up an EU corp, please contact me directly.

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

Ok Thanks

i'd try Moneris. It's 4%. And you can do all major cc's

that is good info

Has anyone used standardpay??

hughesbilling does not offer recurring payouts for your webmasters. just only on initial signups. but they do process more "questionable" content

Well thats still better than having no visa processing at all.

and Moneris will handle high risk adult Internet businesses?

Geez, if it looks too good to be true, it probably is... there's no such thing as a free lunch either.

Compliancy on the part of Visa and Mastercard require ALL merchants processing in ANY APPROVED card association relationship to have a place of business in the region where they are settling transactions. This is why you cannot process with CCBill or Paycom unless you have a US corporation and also why you cannot process with CCBill EU or Paycom EU without an EU corporation.

You are also not allowed to have a merchant account written in a region where you do not have a business presence. You must clearly disclose on your own merchant account the corporate name and address and this must be in your terms and conditions as well.

If you do not comply with these regulations, your processing is in jeopardy, and if you are processing on someone else's actual MIDs and TIDs then you had better hope that you don't get caught. In case no one noticed, the Phillipines is no longer handling adult transactions, and I would guess that has to do with the alledged demise of Paymonde. Adding that to the implosion called IBill from the last couple of years, one would think that people would learn to know the rules, understand the rules and actually follow the rules, if these people wish to continue to process transactions.

This is not rocket science, ladies and gentlemen, just a very simple formula.

exactly the way I see it, all this rule bending always ends up imploding

this gets brought up again n again

does moneris allow canadian adult webmasters?

A bit late here, but my point was that since she's her own content, she'd have no problem having the necessary documentation. I wasn't saying that she didn't have to be compliant, I was saying she shouldn't have a problem complying.

And RegUser, Moneris will not process adult.

Not sure where you are going KK. Are you pointing out that Paymonde were active with a Philippines bank - or something else?

No. You might as well incorporate in the US or EU, the taxes are lower anyway.

Do you know why the Phillipines stopped accepting adult transactions? Chargebacks or some other issue?

Wierd.

A couple years ago we got approved by Moneris Canada to use them to process for some of our adult sites. We had a mainstream merch account with them for about 8 years and they approved a high risk for adult as well a few years ago.

Only reason we are not using it is because their Mastercard platform wasn't set up to use the gateway we were going with. Visa was fine.

It might have changed of late, but as far as I know we still have the high risk account. It wasn't easy to get. They checked us out inside and out, even made sure we had GST registration with Revenue Canada from what I recall.

Sorry I can't offer more. I am not in charge of the inner workings of our company, but I do know we applied for one, and got it. It might be different today. :2 cents:

What exactly are you trying to say? That Canadians have no "truly legal" option even if they formed a corp in another region/country?

Mmmm.. Was also waiting to hear what is not a rocket science and what exactly is new that apparently webmasters don't know about.

We all have opinions of course :pimp

Yep.. It KILLs me that there doesn't seem to be any "easy" solutions for Canadians. If there was I probably would have opened up my own pay sites instead of continuing to flog everyone elses, mostly crap, sites.