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dissipate · 10-11-2006, 02:41 PM

I'd hit it.

squishypimp · 10-11-2006, 02:41 PM

contact me, i can help: [email protected]

tASSy · 10-11-2006, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gfx3

Well to be honest Tassy her boobies look pretty perfect

awh, thanks!

and best of luck to you vegasgirl!

Dirty F · 10-11-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by squishypimp

contact me, i can help: [email protected]

vegasgirl702 · 10-11-2006, 02:50 PM

need more pics to talk to me lol...men

Hotrocket · 10-11-2006, 02:58 PM

vegasgirl...been trying to get ya to contact me since you posted a cpl weeks ago in the Q & A forum..have an opportunity for you regarding what you posted about then.

hit me up at the email in my sig when ya have a chance

After Shock Media · 10-11-2006, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by vegasgirl702

need more pics to talk to me lol...men

Just make a thread asking for designers.
Expect to pay 300 to 800 depending on all you need. (design only)
Research the designers and ask for refferals.
Get some sort of written understanding via email or post.
Make sure they have a promised delivery date.
Make sure you have the full sized photos and such ready to go.
Expect to pay 50% up front with most designers.
Get your hosting in order ( I suggest techimedia.net)
Have your domain ready.
Start the ccbill process if you do not have your own account yet. This also will cost money.
Figure out if you will want or need an affiliate program made.
Decide if you want a CMS system.
Decide if you want a affiliate program managment script.
Decide if you will be providing hosted ad material.
Figure out how much initial ad material you want to start with.
Decide the focus of your solo site, have everything in mind.
Make sure everyone envolved is on same page as you.

bobby666 · 10-11-2006, 03:01 PM

please keep your natural tits, i will send you therefore the keys of my chassity-belt

vegasgirl702 · 10-11-2006, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Just make a thread asking for designers.
Expect to pay 300 to 800 depending on all you need. (design only)
Research the designers and ask for refferals.
Get some sort of written understanding via email or post.
Make sure they have a promised delivery date.
Make sure you have the full sized photos and such ready to go.
Expect to pay 50% up front with most designers.
Get your hosting in order ( I suggest techimedia.net)
Have your domain ready.
Start the ccbill process if you do not have your own account yet. This also will cost money.
Figure out if you will want or need an affiliate program made.
Decide if you want a CMS system.
Decide if you want a affiliate program managment script.
Decide if you will be providing hosted ad material.
Figure out how much initial ad material you want to start with.
Decide the focus of your solo site, have everything in mind.
Make sure everyone envolved is on same page as you.

Getting a straight forward answer like that made my panties get wet...

Ryan St. Germain · 10-11-2006, 03:07 PM

If you are trying to crossover, making appearances in bondage/fetish projects will help.
We are in Vegas, shooting bondage and fetish work, so if you are in vegas, and want to give it a try, then let us know.
If you are looking for a photographer, we can sometimes arrange for a partial exchange of services (you get the pictures and rights for your site, in exchange you model for us for exclusive content).
Have a look at our site, and follow the contact links if you are interested.

www.thedarkcircus.com

vegasgirl702 · 10-11-2006, 03:08 PM

noobies with boobies lol

Ryan St. Germain · 10-11-2006, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by vegasgirl702

ty guys now another opinion should i keep my natural tits or go for dd's

Please...for the love of god....stay natural. i'm so tired of looking at horrid boobjobs or having to photograph girls on an angle because of their "improvements".
If you are going into the fetish market, implants are sometimes considered a hinderance by the way. I've known a lot of bondage photographers who want no tattoos, no piercings and all natural.

fr0gman · 10-11-2006, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

I will be your suitcase pimp. Interested? I can take you to shows and pretend you are all mine

ROTFL... I have not heard suitcase pimp since i left the strip club scene.

After Shock Media · 10-11-2006, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by vegasgirl702

Getting a straight forward answer like that made my panties get wet...

Whoo hoo, shoot... Score!

See lonely guys that is how it is done.

If you desire assorted reccomendations and design work just hit me up. I do design for assorted people. Or just keep posting and some of the other qualified people may pop up as well.

Ryan St. Germain · 10-11-2006, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vegasgirl702

Getting a straight forward answer like that made my panties get wet...

he's one of the few that will actually give you one

Lazonby · 10-11-2006, 03:18 PM

Is this another of David Stodghill's nicks?

vegasgirl702 · 10-11-2006, 03:22 PM

Darkcircus i will be in contact with you

After Shock Media · 10-11-2006, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkCircus

he's one of the few that will actually give you one

Why thank you.

Solid Bob · 10-11-2006, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by vegasgirl702

design only i want to own it not do a 50-50 split

Uh oh spaghetti o's.

vegasgirl702 · 10-11-2006, 03:24 PM

dark as a matter of fact are u avail thru yahoo messenger?

Ryan St. Germain · 10-11-2006, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by vegasgirl702

dark as a matter of fact are u avail thru yahoo messenger?

yes, it's darkcircusmedia

AaronM · 10-11-2006, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by vegasgirl702

design only i want to own it not do a 50-50 split

This is the typical mentality of a model who thinks she is being smarter than the other models.

50% of a site that is built and promoted with the right traffic is better than 100% of a site built and promoted by somebody who doesn't have traffic or know WTF they are doing.

Greed should be reserved for those who have something of value, not for those who simply think they deserve more.

After Shock Media · 10-11-2006, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Bob

Uh oh spaghetti o's.

Why uh oh?
Nothing wrong with wanting to own your own site. Hell in reality it is not as hard as many act like it is.
Only time she may end up giving up 50% is with an affiliate program. Anyone trying to sell her any partnership idea that is not a large program is just a pipe dreamer hoping to catch and take advantage of someone who does not know better.

Solid Bob · 10-11-2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Why uh oh?
Nothing wrong with wanting to own your own site. Hell in reality it is not as hard as many act like it is.
Only time she may end up giving up 50% is with an affiliate program. Anyone trying to sell her any partnership idea that is not a large program is just a pipe dreamer hoping to catch and take advantage of someone who does not know better.

I agree with you 100% and the comment was made towards the 5000 guys that are emailing her 5 times in a row to try and hussle up a 50/50 deal.

Ryan St. Germain · 10-11-2006, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Why thank you.

Hey, np. I appreciated that you gave me a straight answer when some of the people here found it more amusing to be obnoxious.

Solid Bob · 10-11-2006, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

This is the typical mentality of a model who thinks she is being smarter than the other models.

50% of a site that is built and promoted with the right traffic is better than 100% of a site built and promoted by somebody who doesn't have traffic or know WTF they are doing.

Greed should be reserved for those who have something of value, not for those who simply think they deserve more.

You underestimate camgirls with a big following. There is absolutely no reason she should give up 50% of her biz for a site when all she's wanting to do is move her cam / amateur stuff and her fans over to 100% her money. There are 50 places that a real camgirl can advertise that webmasters can't and it makes more than enough to justify leaving out the program owners completely.

vegasgirl702 · 10-11-2006, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

This is the typical mentality of a model who thinks she is being smarter than the other models.

50% of a site that is built and promoted with the right traffic is better than 100% of a site built and promoted by somebody who doesn't have traffic or know WTF they are doing.

Greed should be reserved for those who have something of value, not for those who simply think they deserve more.

I have been in the camming biz for about 5 years also did some dancing and porn......I have many clients who have been dying to see a site. Enough said. Not a naieve girl here just starting with no fan base whatsoever.

Solid Bob · 10-11-2006, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by vegasgirl702

I have been in the camming biz for about 5 years also did some dancing and porn......I have many clients who have been dying to see a site. Enough said. Not a naieve girl here just starting with no fan base whatsoever.

If you are planning to charge for per minute shows on your site you would be a fool to take a deal with anyone, period. Do your thang.

After Shock Media · 10-11-2006, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkCircus

Hey, np. I appreciated that you gave me a straight answer when some of the people here found it more amusing to be obnoxious.

I did?
Hmmm I may have to double check my character gauge.

vegasgirl702 · 10-11-2006, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Greed should be reserved for those who have something of value, not for those who simply think they deserve more.

Take a look at the big picture and from my point of view
Would u rather work on a large cam site and keep 30% profit, or work on an independent site do your own advertising and keep it all besides processing fees?

Clicking a lil isnt it??

Now think real hard now..... you have been camming for a while on your own have a clientele.....would u give up 50%?

Charlie_RedHotBucks · 10-11-2006, 03:56 PM

after readin gthis..unless you are really good at seo and traffic..you may really want to consider a split either with a established compnay of with a designer/promoter...if not your SOL

gfx3 · 10-11-2006, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by vegasgirl702

Getting a straight forward answer like that made my panties get wet...

300 to 800 $ for a decent site? Perhaps if it was made by squishypimp I would understand. 3000$ for a decent site sounds more like it. I would think twice about opening photoshop for 300$

Somebody posted good advice in this thread, find yourself a webmaster and do a 50-50 deal with him. In your case a 60 - 40 deal would also be ok because I think you will be able to convert well so 60 for you and 40% for your webmaster.

lambpie · 10-11-2006, 04:21 PM

your pics look good to me!

reliable · 10-11-2006, 04:25 PM

contact me I'll send a quote, we did www.camsturbate.com, I think a site with a unique system is important.. gotta make it interactive

CC · 10-11-2006, 04:27 PM

If you truly have a good-sized following, then I agree, 50/50 isn't too smart for you. I would definitely consider 60/40 or MAYBE 70/30 (depending on the size of your current fanbase) if I were you though. You underestimate the value of a good partner/webmaster who actually knows what he/she is doing.

gfx3 · 10-11-2006, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vegasgirl702

Take a look at the big picture and from my point of view
Would u rather work on a large cam site and keep 30% profit, or work on an independent site do your own advertising and keep it all besides processing fees?

Clicking a lil isnt it??

Now think real hard now..... you have been camming for a while on your own have a clientele.....would u give up 50%?

The bit of clients you have now will all get bored after a while so you will be in constant need of fresh fishies. And no it's not about clicking a lil. You didn't even know how to post a picture on a bulletin board so

Anyway good luck in your ventures.

fetishblog · 10-11-2006, 04:28 PM

If those were your pictures, you've got a lot of work before you change from cute little cam whore to bitchy dominatrix. =)

After Shock Media · 10-11-2006, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gfx3

300 to 800 $ for a decent site? Perhaps if it was made by squishypimp I would understand. 3000$ for a decent site sounds more like it. I would think twice about opening photoshop for 300$

You seem to confuse decent and outstanding.
Very few people run to dickman or wyldsites for a solo site design.

If you check around with enough designers and portfolio prices you will see that price range is pretty spot on, specially for a solo site.

Not to mention to often flashy super professional designs just appease webmasters and rarely do anything for the surfers. Time and time again it has shown that the less pro something looks for certain markets the better it does.

Charlie_RedHotBucks · 10-11-2006, 04:31 PM

ya know i own madbitches.com maybe we could work something out if you want to be realllly mean

CC · 10-11-2006, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gfx3

The bit of clients you have now will all get bored after a while so you will be in constant need of fresh fishies. And no it's not about clicking a lil. You didn't even know how to post a picture on a bulletin board so

Anyway good luck in your ventures.

And you underestimate the loyalty of die-hard fans. The kind of fans that rebill month after month, no matter what.

gfx3 · 10-11-2006, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CC

And you underestimate the loyalty of die-hard fans. The kind of fans that rebill month after month, no matter what.

She can't have those yet since she's currently "trying" to change her image from teen to a bdsm spanking chick.

I know that sometimes, like for "amateur housewives" a cheap looking design can work well but she wants to get in the fetish niche so a proper design will benefit her more. Adding some basic seo work to her design and offering her some support should cost her 3 to 4 K, for 300 to 800$ she will have something very very basic, it all depends on what you want.

vegasgirl702 · 10-11-2006, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by vegasgirl702

Hey all
This also made me think of something else... I would really love to start a site, but see far too many vanilla solo girl sites. Starting a site in a specific niche scares me, but I see that it also has its advantages. Pros and cons of starting a solo site and niche solo site are very much appreciated. I am such a noob I know but I am here to learn and grow.

This was the origional post and as all of you can see i never once stated that i "wanted" a member-type site, rather i am asking for pros and cons between a solo girl site and a solo niche site. All of your opinions are very welcome, but this post has lost its point completely.

As a matter of fact i dont really want a members-type site at all, just a professionally designed site where i can direct my clientele to, so it will be easier to advertise my cam shows. As a cam model it would be pointless for me to put content out there for $30 a month, when i can make $30 in a 15 min session. Once again this is only my point of view ragging on me and calling me greedy and whatnot only makes me realize why i refuse to work with anyone else.

HaleyWilde · 10-11-2006, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vegasgirl702

design only i want to own it not do a 50-50 split

Hey girlie,
I am a newbie on here too, and started my own site in January. i was lucky enough to find a fantastic designer who might be able to help you out as well. Message me [email protected] if interested in talking more! Great look, btw! In my personal "newbie" opinion, I think you could go either way, you could do that whole "teen thing" or you could go for a more hardcore look. I agree with you, there are too many vanilla sites out there, so it makes sense that you want to steer clear of that. You don't neccessarily have to conform to any pre-existing niche. Anyway, let me know if interested in talking about designing a site, and hopefully my rambling helps!

Solid Bob · 10-11-2006, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gfx3

She can't have those yet since she's currently "trying" to change her image from teen to a bdsm spanking chick.

I know that sometimes, like for "amateur housewives" a cheap looking design can work well but she wants to get in the fetish niche so a proper design will benefit her more. Adding some basic seo work to her design and offering her some support should cost her 3 to 4 K, for 300 to 800$ she will have something very very basic, it all depends on what you want.

A $3000 design on a camgirl site would be the biggest mistake she could ever make. I'd rather see her build it with geocities than do that.

makefuckingmoney · 10-11-2006, 07:33 PM

if you are looking for a sales job contact me. we have an office in vegas. but i dont need a dominatrix i get plenty of abuse already..

vegasgirl702 · 10-11-2006, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HaleyWilde

Hey girlie,
I am a newbie on here too, and started my own site in January. i was lucky enough to find a fantastic designer who might be able to help you out as well. Message me [email protected] if interested in talking more! Great look, btw! In my personal "newbie" opinion, I think you could go either way, you could do that whole "teen thing" or you could go for a more hardcore look. I agree with you, there are too many vanilla sites out there, so it makes sense that you want to steer clear of that. You don't neccessarily have to conform to any pre-existing niche. Anyway, let me know if interested in talking about designing a site, and hopefully my rambling helps!

Lol i ramble alot too ty for the info

reynold · 10-12-2006, 12:43 AM

You're a lovely looking girl. Good luck to you.

WWF-Rich · 10-12-2006, 01:06 AM

Your smokin' girl!

gfx3 · 10-12-2006, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Bob

A $3000 design on a camgirl site would be the biggest mistake she could ever make. I'd rather see her build it with geocities than do that.

It all depends on how you look at it, she doesn't look bad so she could have potential. She has some clients which provide her a steady stream of income at this point. Perhaps she earns 3K a month right now, so investing 1 month revenue into her new website project isn't that big of a deal imo.

Also there is the fact that she wishes to change her profile, which also takes a bit more than buying a whip and some latex boots.

If I was her business partner I would say to go ahead and spend 2K on a very basic design 3 to 5 pages but choose a very high quality layout. Looks like she also wants to keep the site fresh and up to date so that's also going to cost. 3K isn't an enormous amount for a camgirl that wishes a decent website. Spending 10 to 15K would be over the top. I'm also curious to see what a 300$ site looks like. If that is the budget she wants to spend she would be better of asking one of her friends to design her page and pay him the 300$ for his/her trouble.

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