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Join Date: May 2002
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ccbill WTF!!!
Anyone notice alot of declines on your paysite? I am averaging 1:5 getting declined (thats 1 out of 5 people for the stupid people). I would like some feed back on ratios with other processors like jettis, ibill, epoch etc..
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there was a thread about ibill having similar problems, also a lot of complaining on the ARS BBS
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You mean your actually able to get to your stats?
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websitebilling.com rox
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there's a lot of noise about declines on the rise lately... we're launching a new service that includes transaction recovery so that a decline at your primary processor can be retried at a secondary. the consumer gets a pre-filled form, just basically hits submit for the retry.
might help out. we're looking for betas if it interests you... -shane
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lol
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Yes I've noticed this as well. Not good.
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bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
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If you get a decline report you can find out who's bank decline and who's scrub decline. Nearly 90% on average are bank declines so until you get some surfers with some money they aren't getting thru anywhere.
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Just out of curiosity, in ccbill's admin does it show the reason for decline... Ie bad address, incorrect zip, invalid cvv2 etc?
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thats a good ratio, where do I signup to promote you? |
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I haven't spent much time looking at the declines
How can you tell how many bogus credit cards there are etc etc? Anyway chargebacks are lower than ever (touch wood) so I dunno if declines should mean much, to me... will they just be bandwidth consuming, password trading, chargebacks in the waiting anyway?
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aka K-Man
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CCBill rockin for us!
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It tells why they decline it..
Examples from my Emails from them and was declined due to Invalid Card Number. and was declined due to Invalid Bank Routing Number. and was declined due to Bank account/routing number not allowed here. and was declined due to Your Credit Card Has Already Been Submitted and Processed You May Have Double Clicked. Your Card Cannot Be Billed A Second Time Please Go To The Site and Try Your Password Now.. and was declined due to Invalid Zipcode. LOL, Here is my Favorite one and was declined due to Your Card Has Already Been Declined. Since I can see the name being declined, I can see that the same person tries on an average 5 times so that cuts my declines down a lot... |
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Kimmy Kim,, i see alot of declines because of
"invalid bank routing number" in all your customize forms there isn't a big clear graphic that explains what the routing number on a check is,,,, could this be added? |
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Go Globill!
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ok if the schumck who tried to signup wants to enter a wrong routing number is that CCBills fault?
If the fuckface enters a bullshit credit card number is that ccbills fault? I know exactly what you are talking about I use CCBill and I get emails like you mentions but 99.9% the person will end up signing up successful Its not CCBills fault if the person enters bogus data And a decline in most cases means the card has 0 dollars on it or that that card is in a blacklist and usally for good reasons
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there would quite a few that do not know what the "ROUTING NUMBER" is,,, the old sign up forms use to have a big graphical check on top that explained where is what |
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bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
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Funny I remember a thread with Amp posting quite a few things about you before I left for vacation, now I see why he said them. playa -- Most of the invalid routing is attempted check fraud I would guess -- BUT -- if you'll talk to your account person, they should be able to get you the form customized to get the check graphic back on there -- [email protected] can get you the acct reps name if anyone needs it. |
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I have seen this too. Surfers used to signup and they would enter all the correct billing info but use bullshit names and a fake address. If they wanted a refund it was easy to say the card was stolen ( because look, the adress is wrong ).
Well.. the credit card companies wont tolerate that shit anymore. If they have the wrong I.P, fake name, or fake address, the transaction doesnt go through. By the time the loser finally figures out that he is busted his card and I.P. are banned from signing up for 24 hours. Eventually these people will figure out the rules have changed and behave right. Its sucks now but I look at it this way.. some day Visa will have to come terms with that fact that 60% of the adult site fraud is because of their users and the lack of rules which apply to users. Its a good first step in weeding out the thieves. I also think this problem isnt worse, its just more noticeable now that ccbill mails us about every single decline. Thats like my server company mailing me everytime their network has a glitch. Why shoot yourself in the foot like that ? |
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how could ccbill hire such idot ! |
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Aside from the thieves, Surfers want to stay as anonymous as possible. They don't want to give out their personal info because they fear what might happen. I myself don't like to give out ANY personal info, the less the better. I get fucking PHONE spam now because I realize I gave my home phone # to a couple of programs online. One jerk even tried to call me, because he figured out I'm a chick with a paysite. Luckily I gave him the wrong #. The stupid fuck. |
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You arrogant cocksucking cunt, you are noone to talk about being a fucking scumbag. You got your lil secrets too, shall we share them with the rest? I think not. My original post was about others oppinions on the matter and what thier ratios were with other processors, and you have to open up your trap with some dumb bitch comment about how im stupid? lol you got to be kidding me. I have changed all my shit over to globill as a test, and as a matter of fact, I am seeing a 1:9 decline ratio compared to 1:5 with ccbill. so put that in your hat and smoke it cunt. ![]() |
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She represent ccbill and she has the nerve to call her customers names on a public board and i didnt even address her? lol, amazing, simply fucking amazing. |
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Decline from processor is much better than 3 year back refund. Processors are protecting themselves so as you guys from stolen CC'#'s 50/50 laundering etc.
If your processor has no fraud protection - life may turn up side down in no time.
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And yes YOU ARE STUPID. I should also mention that when you only do 5 sales a day, losing one isn't so bad. |
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You guys might want to think up another business plan and marketing campaign and definately fire your ass, that would increase your customer base 100 % i bet. |
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bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
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Hahaha you crybaby. Considering that I don't access our admin from my house I find it funnier than shit that I can accurately guess your sales.
Must suck to be outsmarted by an asian schoolboy, eh? |
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btw yes i have had only 5 SUCESSFUL sales out of atleast 10 attempts within 48hrs. You are a typical woman, spouting off at the mouth when YOU were not even addressed thinking you even know wtf you are talking about. Read my inital post and before you reply, think about what i actually asked. Then if you dont fry your lil head you may reply with a positive response backing up ccbill in a professional way. Like i said, i have globill on the site aswell and i have already seen a better successful signup ratio .
GFY kimmyKim, i hope your days at ccbill are numbered because a company like that cant afford a loud mouth stupid cunt like YOU working for them. |
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The times have changed. We first started with Lancelot, than Ibill than CCbill. PSW etc came as second and third biller for backups.
Instead of beating each other with words (or worse) on here why don't you get a secondary billing company or make ccbill your secondary billing company Visa and MC are getting harder and harder to deal with in the Adult business. When all the Visa and MC stuff started last year we went and got ourselves a Merchant Account thru our own bank. You can also do that. So why rely on CCbill at all if you have a problem with them. Get you own Merchant account. Its about 3% what they charge. However we will only use it in case something goes absolute wrong with online billing. Having your own Merchant Account is no easy cookie. Its a pain and if your chargeback is about 2% Visa and MC can easy yank your account. But it is an option for you instead of whining about 3rd billing get your own Merchant Account. http://merchantaccount.emd-merchant-services.com/ We had a retail store so it was easy for us to ease to online Merchant Account for Adults. Just check around there are some companies out there and you never have to worry about ccbill again Name Calling is not the answer!
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it is out of my hands now, JEFF will deal with this issue on monday
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CCbill plays in the big kids' playground, the one with all the broken concrete and loose bricks. And they know it. I doubt very much that having a little fun with a foul-mouthed abusive misogynistic moron is gonna cause kimmykim's bosses to get their knickers in a twist.
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1:5 is actually one out of 6. Haha..
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lol. now that's what you call a late late late term abortion
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OH KIMMY take a peek at this. this is a copy and paste from an email just got due to my stupidy. You are receiving this email to let you know that morris hark attempted to subscribe to account XXXXXX-XXXX and was declined due to System Error.. Please Wait and Try Again Later. Customer Name: morris hark |
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1 out of 5 people get turned down, how in the fuck does that make 6 people? |
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imagine where kimmykim would be if she didnt have a vagina. thats basically the only reason anyone even tolerates her existence
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Well said. KimmyKim is a detriment to this business.
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man this thread really took a turn for the worse!
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KimmyKim knows how to and does, take care of business.
If you make unprofessional remarks about her or the company she works for be prepared reap what you sow. And I have very strong feelings... it would make NO Diff. what company she worked for.... The lady is Billy Business.
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