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Yes it does matter what you do, if you are not an affiliate and don't generate affiliate sales I wouldn't expect you to understand especially since you work for a company that sells traffic to people who do installs.Originally posted by StuartDDoes it matter? It really doesn't matter who I work for or what I do.
I can respect that you hate what these spyware programs and companies do.
But your hate towards them is quite unfocused and just generally off the wall. You go after anyone and everyone who doesn't profess their undying devotion to the anti-spyware crusade even if they are themselves a victim. What the hell does your thread to Lars prove? Neither cams.com nor sexsearch.com are at fault and yet you name them with screenshots and blast them as if they are creating the spyware themselves.
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StuartD, I am "going after" people for answers. The orginal post were very open and subtle. No one replied. Everyone told me they know about it, they allow it, they don't care. My next wave of post mentioned some names to please just simply tell us " yes " or "no". that's it. If you want to lie and say no then say no. It has been documented that spyware like zango is hijacking sales and traffic. These sponsors have their domain names being bid on zango. If they don't support it then I will help them police it and start reporting affiliate accounts to them. If they do support it then i would like to know so i don't waste my time sending them affiliate id's. So after all of these post, and 100's of others waiting for answers, i then started *showing* people examples of what was happening. Is there anythign wrong with showing them through screen shots? Now I am posting videos and showing affiliates where they are losing sales. Still no answers...
I have not accused any of these companies for not replying to my post,and the post of others... but it does make them look bad that they wont reply. Why do you suppose they wont reply. What do you think, you seem to have this all figured out.Originally posted by StuartDYour entire approach is simply wrong.
If a program doesn't post here, and they don't announce that they do not support spyware, you just automatically assume that they do. And if a program does support adware, you automatically assume that they support spyware as well.
Not only that, but you automatically assume that if the word spyware has ever crossed someone's lips, that they must be writing little zango mods right now.
You really need to step back, analyze just what it is that's going on and find a new approach. If you hate that one specific spyware company so badly, use your billions to shut them down. Don't make thread after thread after thread about how some popup appeared after you purposed infected yourself with spyware.
If you need to hate someone for supporting installs, then hate me all you want. Because I happen to think that ICQ's install is awesome. Especially where it pops up stuff as soon as you start it, and how it puts little ads into the message windows. That adware rocks!
Since you have sooo much to say on this matter and want to voice your opinion on what I am doing wrong with my approach will you please educate me and tell me what a better approach would be? help me out here, since you knocking my approach surely you have an approach that would work better.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Thanks, yes... I've been on the road for most of the weekend preparing for real life. Not for anti-spyware avenger crusades.
But hey will76, you're right... I'll shut up about it. For a year or so. Then I'll return and post about how all of these spyware programs are still around. Keep up the good fight though, I can't wait to ask you why you weren't able to win the war on terror.. err... spyware.
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bump for StaurtD. what an asshole.Thanks, yes... I've been on the road for most of the weekend preparing for real life. Not for anti-spyware avenger crusades.
But hey will76, you're right... I'll shut up about it. For a year or so. Then I'll return and post about how all of these spyware programs are still around. Keep up the good fight though, I can't wait to ask you why you weren't able to win the war on terror.. err... spyware.
Stuart's contribution to spyware, he will wait a year and then laugh at us if the spyware companies are still around.Last edited by will76; 03-16-2007, 10:09 AM.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Actually it's become quite well accepted in Mainstream except for occasional slaps on the wrist when someone shines the spotlight on them.
Here's a video of the VP of Zango addressing a huge Salesforce.com conference in San Fran a few months back
Fast forward to 31:38
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LOL! Yep it sure is, good thing we had the work around for the update 25 minutes after the update was installed.
You don't think we would have an operation of this magnitude shut down over a little update on quicktime would you?
Our Eggs = Many baskets
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Heh, you're one to talk. You went from a fat nice guy to a skinny prick when you left. But hey, we can't win them all.
By the way, I can post multiple examples of you being a prick for no reason if you'd like, in exchange, I'd like you to post an example or two of me kissing ass.
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And for the record, I had made it very clear at the GTS/P2PAds office that if Zango or any other spyware/illegal/non moral company had received so much as one single hit from us, that I'd be out the door at a moment's notice and never return.
It never happened.
For those of you who don't know, I did the programming which managed the traffic in and out of P2PAds and was well aware of exactly who was and wasn't getting traffic. And I take this sort of thing extremely serious.
And for those of you who do know me, you know that I never ever compromise my integrity for no one nor any amount of money and have absolutely nothing to prove.
And if those of you who don't know me don't believe me, then feel to either ask someone who knows me, kiss my ass or continue to assume and make an ass of yourself. It's up to you which you choose.Comment
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And for the record, I had made it very clear at the GTS/P2PAds office that if Zango or any other spyware/illegal/non moral company had received so much as one single hit from us, that I'd be out the door at a moment's notice and never return.
It never happened.
For those of you who don't know, I did the programming which managed the traffic in and out of P2PAds and was well aware of exactly who was and wasn't getting traffic. And I take this sort of thing extremely serious.
And for those of you who do know me, you know that I never ever compromise my integrity for no one nor any amount of money and have absolutely nothing to prove.
And if those of you who don't know me don't believe me, then feel to either ask someone who knows me, kiss my ass or continue to assume and make an ass of yourself. It's up to you which you choose.
Hey only 6 more months till you can make that post that we didn't accomplish anything to stop spyware and you can laugh at us.
Glad to see your contribution is to make fun of the people who are trying to make things better.
Way to go, you da man!ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Maybe I'm missing something here.. Did everyone here forget that ALL our stats went in the shitter around last spring.. Well at least EVERY webmaster and affiliate program I have asked since last summer. (and it's a pretty big list)
That browser is a GREAT example of why "installs" are going to be the death of the affiliate and soon the affiliate programs.
Think about our main income surfer, he's not very internet savy, doesn't know about TONS of free porn yet.. That is what this persons browser looks like these days. Think he'll manage to get to your join page very easy??
Keep screaming to the rooftops about how "legal" this stuff is and watch the where this industry ends up if it isn't controled.
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This thread did deserve bumping to put P2P back in the spotlight where we belong
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I don't get the implied logic that if something cannot be wiped out, that somehow implies legitimacy and/or that fighting it is a waste of time. Should we fire our police forces and send every lobbyist home?
It is impossible to prevent people attempting to prey on others and many victims wouldn't react if you jabbed them with a cattle prod. The point of attempting to make people care, can only be to reduce the impact and reach of the vultures. Above all, to prevent their practises being seen as legitimate and thus becoming even more commonplace.
Right now in this industry it is impossible to avoid the conclusion that too many have earned too much money, too easily. How else do you explain apparently smart people not caring about things which undermine or threaten to undermine their businesses? Perhaps some use the excuse that they are not specifically targeted by the current crop of "tricks", but is it really so hard to grasp the concept that their good fortune is unlikely to hold tomorrow and next week, next year?
The fact that technology makes something possible and the law may not have caught up, does not make everything legitimate. There will always be a fine line between acceptable competition and - to all practical intents and purposes - theft of business, but without that line, everyone is vulnerable and ultimately the only beneficiaries are the people running the scams. The greatest damage is not even caused by the scams themselves, but because of the amount of effort we have to divert into protecting ourselves, instead of being able to stay focused on our real business.Comment
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ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Fighting and crying in 30+ threads per day are two different things.
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yeah, like anyone is going to believe that this thread shines a positive light on your "business" somehow. and frankly if the bumping of a nearly 6 month old thread exposing at best questionable practices is something you consider being put "back in the spotlight", that speaks volumes for the marketing expertise (or lack thereof) you have to offer customers looking to increase their revenues. way to go
then again considering the intelligence of your target audience, perhaps they will believe that. P2P crap is without question a great way to buy traffic derived from confirmed freeloaders
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hum interesting a few little birdies told me you guys are having a hard time delivering
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Bump for DH. lets make sure that you and your buddies ban me for ever. Now please tell who they are.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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yes and you are very good at putting the spot light on yourself

ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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suuuuuuure you do. If you say so DH.
Can you name 5 legit companies that do installs. Just in general doesn't have to be your client list. And you please don't tell me " google tool bar" or something like that because there is no way in hell they buying from you.
DH = DickHeadICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Will76, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for Earth has just begun! Temporarily anozinizing our adware distribution abilities will NOT stop us from keeping adware forever trapped in your pitiful computers. Curses and drat! You have obstructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save sales from adware will fail! Hail Zango!!!
-- DH and Robbie Rye, servants of the dark lord Zango
DH
P.S. If no one gets this, it's the response that Trey and Matt from Southpark had for Tom Cruise LOL!
amazing not only did you write such a retarded reply and posted it but you felt the need to copy and paste it to it's own thread.
DH right up t here with Sleazy and Lars, the 3 stooges. The people who open their mouths and shit comes out of it.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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I guess the sleeze never ends. . .Assclown Bob Rice wants to BANG your credit card!"I am putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage."All the information above is my personal opinion.Comment
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Amazing where we ended up in a few years isnt it?Maybe I'm missing something here.. Did everyone here forget that ALL our stats went in the shitter around last spring.. Well at least EVERY webmaster and affiliate program I have asked since last summer. (and it's a pretty big list)
That browser is a GREAT example of why "installs" are going to be the death of the affiliate and soon the affiliate programs.
Think about our main income surfer, he's not very internet savy, doesn't know about TONS of free porn yet.. That is what this persons browser looks like these days. Think he'll manage to get to your join page very easy??
Keep screaming to the rooftops about how "legal" this stuff is and watch the where this industry ends up if it isn't controled.
</rant>Assclown Bob Rice wants to BANG your credit card!"I am putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage."All the information above is my personal opinion.Comment


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