Attention: Program owners. Do you give a shit how you get your affiliate sales?

if nothing else i was serious about this:

As long as sponsors don't pay them when they get busted i will hire someone full time to install as many spybots as they can come across and sit there all day surfing, writing down affiliate codes from the pop ups that come up from the spy bots. If they don't make any money, they will go fuck with something else, mainstream perhaps. In the past they did stuff like if you went to a movie site, they would pop up a netflix page, etc.. shit like that, now they are straight up hijacking cookies. shit needs to stop one way or the other.

makes perfect sense.. they set the cookie to overwrite your cookie with THEIR affiliate code so in the end they have no one to pay. They make all the money. If that's the case I think that's theft and should be treated as such.

OOPS- been online too long

Ok now i am really sick:

http://www.benedelman.org/spyware/180-affiliates/

200 million users use their software.

I wonder how much money each one of us has lost to these fucking thieves.

Publicly denunciate every sponsor who does not cooperate in this matter here on gfy.

I think i just found a better idea.

http://www.clickz.com/showPage.html?page=3623374

The Collins law firm looks like they want to take down Zango, 1800 solutions, whatever their name is this week. But they went at it all wrong. They were trying to sue on behalf of the surfer, saying the software damage their pcs.

Now if they did a class action lawsuit on behalf of the affiliates who are getting screwed out of sales I think they would have a much easier case to prove. It is fact that every sale that company made was stolen from an affiliate, so every penny of that 19 million they made in 2003 was fraud IMO. No telling how much they have made each year since then.

So anyone here wants to be part of a class action lawsuit ? If this has merit I would like to persue it.

Like I said one way or another this shit needs to stop.

It should be no problem to sue those people.

lets do it.


LOL Warner Bros breaks deal with Zango.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...072701620.html


seems Warner Bros. didn't like the porn that Zango was poping up, at least fucking us has cost them a few bucks.

wow never realized it was that big of a problem, they are hijacking clickcash aff links I take it will?

MoreNiche cares Woj. Any program who values their long term existence needs to care. There are a number of tools your sponsor can implement to spot Zango users internally - Im not saying here what we use, but we can spot them straight away.

But yes you are right, i have found these Zango users using our program - froze their account immediatly to find them popping up with a competitors site.

For this kind of situation programs can employ fair play services from peeps like Ben Edleman & co who can monitor the networks sites and keywords. They can even supply your program with video of the ad in action. Once a program is approached with this kind of evidence, they will act and remove the affiliate. Yes they may appear again, but eventually it will become unprofitable for them.

As affiliates what can you do ?

Well talk to your reps, find out what their official stance is.

Check the TOS of the sponsor - do they have adware use as a fundemental breach of the agreement? If they do not, they are not protecting your income.

Pressurise the sponsor to get educated on the subject and to implement tools for spotting both internal and external adware users.

If your pushing big numbers and can afford it, sign up to a monitoring service such as www.affiliatefairplay.com to monitor your sites and keywords

Educate your fellow affiliates, do not affiliate yourselves with sponsors who do not police this area.

Im seeing more and more Zango installation prompts - Its big business - and its not going away any time soon Any sponsor/affiliate

We here at PanchoDog care and would not accept that kind of "promotion". We are straight up and by the book.

Topbucks has measures to prevent this and will not/do not allow this type of promotion.

Unfortunately, there's not only one software doing this.

These types of practices have been discussed a few times during the past year and pro-active suggestions were made but it seems nobody caught on. Educate your surfer - make sure he knows how to clean it up and prevent it from being installed again.

If it seizes to be profitable for them and the lawsuits pack up - they will stop.

Here's a more detailed way to remove the software btw:
http://xona.com/2004/07/18-2.html

bump for an actual business thread.

Several people have pointed out that these things don't directly impact on sponsors enough to make most of them act. Similarly you might be able to interest surfers in terms of popups as such, but they couldn't care less who makes the money on a sale.

In other words, attempting to educate sponsors and surfers is fine, but will not provide more than a very partial solution. I don't have the technical know-how, but anything more comprehensive will have to be a direct solution which affiliates can apply for and by themselves.