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Old 10-01-2006, 01:39 AM   #1
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I turned away a really hot model

Am I crazy lol.

Several weeks ago when Tiger (my offsider) and I were interviewing models for Batts World we had a really sexy beautiful girl turn up for a test shoot. She looked amazing, one of the most beautiful girls I had ever seen.

Lets call this model ?Jane? that is not her name but I will call her that just for this post. One of our first questions to a model is ?Why are you here? and generally the answer is for the money but there is also many other reasons they are here to, some of them include, wanting to gain more self confidence, ex-boyfriend used to make them feel ugly and the list can go on.

?Jane? was here for the money as she was in $ 3000.00 debt and needed to get out of it fast. Jane was also studying to be a Lawyer.

I said to Jane, if you were not in debt would you be here, her answer was NO. For the next hour Tiger and I convinced her not to shoot with us, Jane still wanted to, but we convinced her not to. I did not want her to have any problems in the years to come when she is practicing law and nude pictures of her surface on the internet. Not that there is anything wrong with girls posing nude for us, some models make a career out of modeling for us and some don?t and I really prefer not to shoot the ones that don?t.

I called Jane recently just to see if she was ok as I do care about people even if they are not working for me, she said she was still in debt and to make things worse she went and financed a new vehicle, it does amaze me why she would finance a new vehicle when she is in debt.
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Old 10-01-2006, 01:41 AM   #2
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Strange.And you reject her beacuse she say he doing that for money?So you want in job only people with passion?
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Strange.And you reject her beacuse she say he doing that for money?So you want in job only people with passion?
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thats nice of you Batts, to geniuenly care about someone like that.....however, a shoot is a shoot, and you might have gotten some....but I give you props for being caring!

But....I must say......"useless without pics"
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Old 10-01-2006, 01:52 AM   #5
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thats nice of you Batts, to geniuenly care about someone like that.....however, a shoot is a shoot, and you might have gotten some....but I give you props for being caring!

But....I must say......"useless without pics"
Did not take any pics of her.
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Even more of a gentleman!! Good job!
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might as well have shot her cuz now shes gonna goto someone else.
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About a month ago I actually turned away this cute red head Lori met at the mall... she was all gung-ho, but then as she was dressed, had done her 2257 shit, and I had my camera in my hands I saw 'that look' in her eyes, and said, 'you're not sure about this, are you'. She didn't want to say that she wasn't, but you could just tell. I told her to come back later in the week if she still wanted too. She didn't. I'm so glad I got a hold of her first instead of some of these video guys from LA.
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IF she makes it threw law school, she'd just sue you for practice... Wise move.
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...but it got away... but its a true story, I SWEAR
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Old 10-01-2006, 02:17 AM   #12
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Once I caught a fish.. I was This long <=================================>

...but it got away... but its a true story, I SWEAR
i dont really care if you believe me or not.
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...but it got away... but its a true story, I SWEAR
Either that or he's going Donny on us.
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She will never become a lawyer.

The fact that she went out and picked up a car WHILE she was already in debt, tells me she is a CLUSTERFUCK FOR LIFE. Law school is not an option for this girl, or anyone without self discipline.

You should have shot her.
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I'm so glad I got a hold of her first instead of some of these video guys from LA.

Yeah like me! Shweeew! She made it to safety, would have chewed her right up!
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Nothing but a publicity stunt… Good way to make yourself look like someone your not!!!

Way to go Batts…
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Nice work Batts.

But DO remember, you CANNOT save everyone.

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Nothing but a publicity stunt? Good way to make yourself look like someone your not!!!

Way to go Batts?
Oh yeah, i forgot, i pay my models $50,000 to sleep with me, sorry i left that one out.

I wil call her now and see if she will sleep with me for $50.000
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Oh yeah, i forgot, i pay my models $50,000 to sleep with me, sorry i left that one out.

I wil call her now and see if she will sleep with me for $50.000

Mate, its not my flut your getting a bit of a bad rep, might wanna stop lieing to girls to get them to shoot with u, or just tell em its gonna take a year to get ur shit together, lol

Or just make a solo site based around u, u sema to love the camera, and u have a glow about u... might be a little $$$ pot
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Nice work Batts.

But DO remember, you CANNOT save everyone.

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True. 'Saving' can mean different things to different people. I actually think you should have shot her Batts. You could have captured you in the prime of her life. But we all should do what we think is right.

She might be sending you 'thank you' notes when she's 60
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Mate, its not my flut your getting a bit of a bad rep, might wanna stop lieing to girls to get them to shoot with u, or just tell em its gonna take a year to get ur shit together, lol

Or just make a solo site based around u, u sema to love the camera, and u have a glow about u... might be a little $$$ pot
Oh ok, we are getting back to that again, you and i both know very well that the model in question played both of us, this is just getting old now, if you chose to believe what she said then that is up to you, i dont really care.
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Oh yeah, i forgot, i pay my models $50,000 to sleep with me, sorry i left that one out.

I wil call her now and see if she will sleep with me for $50.000
Batts, I'd damn near sleep with you for $50,000! The pink hat turns me on, what can I say?

Seriously though, good job. It's nice to see that people give a shit in this industry.
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Nice to help her see her true motives. But I wonder if she knows them herself. I mean, why did she finance a new car if she's in debt? That's pretty stupid.
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Batts, I'd damn near sleep with you for $50,000! The pink hat turns me on, what can I say?

Seriously though, good job. It's nice to see that people give a shit in this industry.
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Nice to help her see her true motives. But I wonder if she knows them herself. I mean, why did she finance a new car if she's in debt? That's pretty stupid.

Probably had no cash to buy a new/used one ... financing a used car with bad credit goes thru a bank at around 18% .... a new car with manufacturer financing will sometimes cost less per month .....
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Nice to help her see her true motives. But I wonder if she knows them herself. I mean, why did she finance a new car if she's in debt? That's pretty stupid.
amen, I'm with you on that
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Nice to help her see her true motives. But I wonder if she knows them herself. I mean, why did she finance a new car if she's in debt? That's pretty stupid.
yeah, made me wonder to.
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Why would you want a girl on your site who doesnt look like she is enjoying herself? Also Batts models do more then a few shoots they are the Batts world girls, hes not looking for someone whos going to do a few shoots and then piss off, thats not really what Batts world is about. Batts I think you did the right thing, no point shooting someone who really doesnt want to be shoot
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True. 'Saving' can mean different things to different people. I actually think you should have shot her Batts. You could have captured you in the prime of her life. But we all should do what we think is right.

She might be sending you 'thank you' notes when she's 60
I maybe would have talked her to an exclusive single girl contract and shown her that she can make more than being a lawyer.

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I respect ur decision there :-)... very few people has that kind of thinking for others
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For someone wanting to be a lawyer she sure is having problems making a convincing case for herself or her decisions. She probably made up that story to get work but it backfired.


oh and your sig is messed up batts

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I think you did the right thing. You'll never know that the girl might regret doing the shoot after she got the money and paid of the bills.
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Damn batts, theres a very good chance she wont even get thru law school etc. its not exactly easy, and plus, by the time that happens, I'm sure some of the photographers here will tell u she cant do anything about it. Also, you might not even have adult sites by the time she even finishes the stuff. Lots of ifs or maybes imho.
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I found that touching until I read that she financed a new car..
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good for you batts .. I did the same thing earlier this summer ... when she told me that she cant' remmeber the scenes she did becuase she blocks em out, I opted not to shoot her, Actually took out for coffee and discussed how it could change her life, her family life .. As it turned out with a little research I found out whom her family was .. thank god. I did what I did . cus her father turned out ot be a well known loan shark.
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you shulda hired her man, shes really stupid if she financed a new car.. like wtf
that shows she wouldnt have a chance becomming a lawyer lol
+ she could be a stripper
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Good move man... if she's in debted only 3k and having troubles making payments, the $100,000+ in law school loans will definatly straighten her out. -- or at least keep her commited to returning to shoot more content.
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Dosen't really sound like she's smart enough to study law dude... she probably bullshitted.

Just call her back and get her to shoot for you ...


But if she really is becomming a lawyer, it would be the biggest fucking mistake one could do. She would have no credibility at all in front of the judge.
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Her debt is only $3k? she could pay that off working at burger king for a month or two.
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Why on earth shouldn't you hire her? Shes had it all explained and is bright enough to make her own decisions? All the paperwork is in order and she's over 18? So why not let another adult make an informed choice shes clearly capable of?

Did you seriously believe all the other girls who tell you they're only in it for the fun, and the money just doesn't matter? Maybe they were the ones who really are at law school and smart enough to realise what the correct answers were to a bunch of dumb questions.

Sorry, but doing porn for the money might just be the right reason. Care to play amateur pyscholgist to the skinny girl with the self-harm scars and work out whats really going on in her head? trust me, you won't like the answer and you probably won't ask again.

IF you really did turn her away then theres more to it than you're saying. Maybe she just weirded you out in that "I think you maybe a journalist looking for a story" kinda way or something else just didn't ring true. It happens - I've knocked back a few, just cause it didn't feel right. Maybe she just wasn't that hot and you saw the potential for something bloggable if you did send her on her way.

Whatever. I'll file this one next to the "single mum paying for kids chemo and/or her college by stripping" stories.
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