I'm the first to stay outta the flames.... can't believe you brought me and my company into this... if you had just said something about the model, I would've laughed, and said... who the hell knows what they're doing when they're in the bathroom.

If you can't see that saying "Ok Mr photographer, BIG pupils = WE did some coke before the shoot!", and then showing a picture from that photographer isn't suggesting that he did coke with his model..... Never mind....

I saw that pic and it brought back some old memories so I made a post about it, people wanted to see an example so I showed them. Dude your too funny.

This thread should be locked for dumbness... :2 cents:

Your 100% right it was bad judgment on my part. I could have totally went about the post in a different way. Maybe I just said what I said because I would have noticed it in a heartbeat thats all. Never meant to do any harm to you, just wanted to bring up the subject.

anyway, that girl is hot and i want to promote - who has a link to the program??????

Link please?

I saw some models using some pupil drops to make them dilated.. the same that the eye doctors use..

What kind of piece of shit asshole comes on here and tosses around accusations like this with no proof at all?

Seriously man...You need to go suck a dick.

Gosh Tat, I didn't know you were packin party favors! Share next time ok? hehe

50 misunderstandings

Not funny.

Umm your a little out of the loop Aaron, sorry.

Hehe.... well Tat is a good guy with a good sense of humor.

I hope he doesn't stay mad or anything. From where I sit, I didn't think you really meant to bring him down or anything. Maybe Eric will let you change the subject line of the thread and we all can hold hands and sing campfire songs again.

:)

Oh, you sexy thing.... you always know I share with you! :winkwink:

Apology accepted. We've all stuck our foot in our mouth one time or another on GFY (I've done it myself), and apologies are rarely ever given. You manned up, and apologized - and I accept.

As for if the model was coked out. I don't know, and don't care to know. She certainly didn't seem like she was, and didn't go to the bathroom over and over, or was ever in there for longer then it takes to pee. At the end of the shoot she was pretty tired, and went to bed within a couple hours. Slept 2 hours longer then I did. She seemed much more like a stoner then a coke head any day, and no.... she didn't pull out the weed (damn her! - :1orglaugh ), so I wouldn't put money on it or anything, but I'd say she was sober the entire 8 hours of the shoot, and the other 10 hours that she was sleeping and woke up this morning.

This could get out of hand fast.

wow...you guys are really barkin up the wrong tree here ....Tat is a great guy, and yeah have had a few drinks with him before but he def isn't a guy to be in on shit like this....it really is pretty lousy to say something like this about someone you know nothing about

no.

i know nothing of dope.

the pro photographer shooting glamour or erotica specifically WANTS the pupils to be huge if the girl is looking into the lens.

they are psychological reasons for this, but it makes the model more alluring.

the reason for this is because all humans pupils will dilate if they look at something they like.

the "look" is accomplished on the set by keeping ambiant lighting dim and modeling lights set on low. this forces the models' pupils to open and the strobe freezes them open in the shot.

it is the mark of the pro shooter, not the amateur.

look in the moody fashion ads in vanity fair for the idea.

Some photographers set up their lighting in order to get large pupils on purpose. For some people that is sexy. Some photographers do it by accident because they don't know how to prevent it with their lighting. Huge pupils does not always equal "crack" or any other form of drug. Just for the record :winkwink:

Cool! I'm still such a hack with still photography I had no idea how I got her pupils so big, but I did have the ambiant lighting really dim. Now I can save all my coke for myself! :winkwink:

I don't necessarily agree with this statement but every photographer does things differently. I personally don't like to see large pupils - nothing about that is sexy to me. But I do respect the opinion of other shooters who love to shoot that way :thumbsup

Doh! (raises hand sheepishly)

:1orglaugh

But she looks sexy and not doped. Even the lighting can make your pupils change.

I've canceled shoots when I realize the model is on something ...

If she's doing coke, you're fucking...

If you're both doing it, you're talking.

Oh wait...wrong thread.

Even then, I would have to consider it. lol

Girls that do porn are not ivy league princesses. Nor are they daddy's little girl. For the most part, they are dumb ass sluts who can't do much else than suck cocks and get fucked.

I've been in the wrong end of this industry. I think I'm gonna start shooting content!

I've got the same sized pupils when I'm not wearing my lens.
So what? :error

p.s. I'm neither girl nor porn model :pimp

coke is baaaaaaad, mmmmmkkk

/whips out the popcorn.

So...
David Bowie is only on coke with his left side?
:P
http://www.inception-magazine.com/sp.../bowieeyes.jpg

:-)

I shoot outside so I have never run into large pupils, but looking at it from a scientific standpoint, I would think that if you shot in a very dimly lit room the models pupils would be very large. By the time the flash or flashes go off and the picture is captured I would guess that the pupils would be captured in their dilated state before they had time to react to the light. And as long as you didn't take pics to fast you would be able to keep taking shots of the models dilated pupils due to the low low lighting in the room.

Just a guess though because I have never read anything or taken any classes on the subject.

BV

I don't give a fuck.
I am still not buying your content.

has that been your personal experience, or did you read that in a book?

Your absolutely right. Your pupil is like a camera lens aperture. When you walk into a dimely lit room, your pupils automatically open up (become larger) in order to let in more light so your brain can interpret what your eyes are seeing. When you walk outside into the light, your pupils become smaller. Your pupils are on automatic pilot and dialate depending on how much light your brain needs to interpret and focus on what your looking at.

If you take a photograph of your subject while they are in a dimely lit room, chances are you'll get a picture with larger then normal pupils. Also, anytime the pupil is dialated and your taking pictures, you run the chance of getting red-eye in your shots.

For all my point-n-shoot buddies out there. If your getting red-eye in your pics...it's prolly because your shooting indoors in dimely lit rooms. Best thing to do is turns some lights on or shoot outside. :thumbsup

I'd also like to add that it is 100% correct that the lighting can do this. If your a skilled photographer and are shooting with studio strobes rather than home depot hot lights, then the modeling lamps are only about 100watts. When those flashes go off you can be throwing as much as 2000watts or more in an instant, which gives the radial muscles than contract the iris no time to react, therefore, larger pupil.

that said, i know a lot of braods that powder thier nose.

god gave mankind fruity pebbles and coke whores.

why put up a fight?