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Old 09-27-2006, 09:29 AM   #1
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Guns don't kill people...

(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000. (Yes, that's 80 million..)
(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.
(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .000188.
Statistics courtesy of FBI

Now think about this:

(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.
(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000.
(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.
Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health Human Services.

So, statistically, doctors are approximately 900 times more dangerous than gun owners. Remember, "Guns don't kill people, doctors do." Fact: Not everyone has a gun but almost everyone has a doctor. Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand. Out of concern for the public at large, I withheld the statistics on lawyers for fear the shock would cause people to panic and seek medical attention."
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Old 09-27-2006, 09:57 AM   #2
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Old 09-27-2006, 09:57 AM   #3
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I should have a gun look at that strange growth..
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Old 09-27-2006, 09:58 AM   #4
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Guns don't kill people...husbands that come home early do.
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:00 AM   #5
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guns don't kill people...........people kill guns......
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:02 AM   #6
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I should have a gun look at that strange growth..

*giggle*, good one....
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:16 AM   #7
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it's just too bad that anti gun people don't understand simple things like figures and statistics.

watch, this thread will turn into a circus of cry babies in no time flat.
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:31 AM   #9
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:32 AM   #10
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:36 AM   #11
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I would be more concerned about the non-accidental killings by gun owners than the accidental ones, actually....
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:39 AM   #12
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Good Post. Agreed all the way. Those damn physicians.
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:40 AM   #13
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I would be more concerned about the non-accidental killings by gun owners than the accidental ones, actually....
still only 11k compared to 120k
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:43 AM   #14
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still only 11k compared to 120k
And we pulled that number from....?
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:44 AM   #15
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1500 lives couldve been saved if those people didnt have guns.

Guns arent needed in society. Gun are only made to kill.

Cars, knifes etc arent and are products we HAVE to use daily. Accidents will happen with anything we use. Chairs, forks, etc but little you can do about it.

1500 accidents with guns couldve been avoided simply by not buying/using guns.
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:46 AM   #16
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Gunni, can you link me to the page about physicians? I want to read more about it.
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:49 AM   #17
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If it was up to Franck, the inclined plane, and pulley would also be classified as weapons.
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:55 AM   #19
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guns don´t kill people, but i doubt the most people were able to kill someone without a gun .....
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1500 lives couldve been saved if those people didnt have guns.

Guns arent needed in society. Gun are only made to kill.

Cars, knifes etc arent and are products we HAVE to use daily. Accidents will happen with anything we use. Chairs, forks, etc but little you can do about it.

1500 accidents with guns couldve been avoided simply by not buying/using guns.
and what am I supposed to do when 6 armed niggas enter my house at 2 am? challenge them to a pillow fight?

introducing guns to a gun free country is plain stupid, in countries like SA, US, Brazil I MUST have the right to own a gun
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Old 09-27-2006, 11:00 AM   #21
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introducing guns to a gun free country is plain stupid, in countries like SA, US, Brazil I MUST have the right to own a gun
Im happy we agree on that. Especially the first part. Thats something most gun freaks dont seem to understand.
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Old 09-27-2006, 11:01 AM   #22
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Old 09-27-2006, 11:05 AM   #23
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And we pulled that number from....?
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Old 09-27-2006, 11:10 AM   #24
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Gunni, can you link me to the page about physicians? I want to read more about it.
no, it was just a copy paste,
however it says "Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health Human Services."
So I guess you can find it there if you're interested
I just thought this was amusing.

Also just for the reckord I'm not a big fan of people being allowed to buy handguns or assault weapons designed only to kill humans, rifles and shotguns are fine with me, you can use them to hunt and to defend your home (shotguns in particular) but it is a bit harder to conceal them
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Old 09-27-2006, 11:15 AM   #25
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Europe has it right.More Guns here, more murders here!
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http://www.hhs.gov/

Cant find anything about.

Has nothing to do with the gun thread i just think 120k is a bit much.
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:25 AM   #28
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Cant find anything about.

Has nothing to do with the gun thread i just think 120k is a bit much.
actually I found the number a bit high as well so I googled it and found this

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The JOURNAL of the AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION (JAMA) Vol 284, No 4, July 26th 2000 article written by Dr Barbara Starfield, MD, MPH, of the Johns Hopkins School of Hygiene and Public Health, shows that medical errors may be the third leading cause of death in the United States.

The report apparently shows there are 2,000 deaths/year from unnecessary surgery; 7000 deaths/year from medication errors in hospitals; 20,000 deaths/year from other errors in hospitals; 80,000 deaths/year from infections in hospitals; 106,000 deaths/year from non-error, adverse effects of medications - these total up to 225,000 deaths per year in the US from iatrogenic causes which ranks these deaths as the # 3 killer. Iatrogenic is a term used when a patient dies as a direct result of treatments by a physician, whether it is from misdiagnosis of the ailment or from adverse drug reactions used to treat the illness. (drug reactions are the most common cause).
now the deaths caused by doctors are up to 225k
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Guns suck and so do you Gunni. You comparison is idiotic.
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Guns don't kill people, bullets do.
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Guns suck and so do you Gunni. You comparison is idiotic.
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1500 lives couldve been saved if those people didnt have guns.

Guns arent needed in society. Gun are only made to kill.

Cars, knifes etc arent and are products we HAVE to use daily. Accidents will happen with anything we use. Chairs, forks, etc but little you can do about it.

1500 accidents with guns couldve been avoided simply by not buying/using guns.
But if those people didn't have guns to spend time on, they might spend more time at the clinics taking care of themselves and would therefore die at the hands of their doctor
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in countries like SA, US, Brazil I MUST have the right to own a gun
I fully agree with you. In dangerous third world countries with high crime rates, high poverty levels and an inefficient police force one has no choice but to protect oneself
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Urban environments don't need an armed population, but rural ones do.
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Doctors now a days suck, it's all about the money which kills any real possibility of fixing someone.
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Guns suck and so do you Gunni. You comparison is idiotic.

Its an compirson every pro gun freak uses. Totally idiotic, i know.
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I didnt' actually think anyone would take this seriously, of course it is stupid, you might as well say ban cars, they kill more people every year than guns and doctors combined!

loosen up people
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I have always been afraid of the doctors. ..
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Going into surgery is alot riskier than hanging out w/ a gun owner. Makes sense.
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