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Old 09-28-2006, 04:43 PM   #151
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Old 09-28-2006, 04:44 PM   #152
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Donny, religion is false. If you want to believe in false things then follow Santa Claus or the tooth fairy or something - they don't ruin lives with dogma.

And what the fuck is it with that $169 salvation kit - just as L Ron Hubbard said: "if you want to get rich, start a religion".
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Old 09-28-2006, 04:53 PM   #153
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Yes, as far as you're concerned.
Thanks for asking.

And no I'm not speaking for Donny, I know how that world works, all too well.
Nothing more.

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Uhhhh... not sure how to respond to someone who answers both yes then no to the same question.
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Old 09-28-2006, 04:53 PM   #154
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Lately we're becoming so well known that almost every model we recruit ends up found by family members.
One of the reasons I'm in Puerto Rico now and not in my hometown where I've been shooting content for YEARS and still shoot in bulk when I visit is because I became too well known..Every negro in the hood now has online access and color printers...Some dude even downloaded some pics of a girl off of one of my fhg's and created T-Shirts and passed them around in the neighborhood...I'd get at least one call a week from a female who wanted her pics down...I had my life and limbs threatned..i've had the threat of somebody calling childrens services on me, etc. etc...But because this is my life's work..Because this is ART, I keep on keeping on with what I love.

But the thing is that getting naked on camera is the tamest thing these girls have done in their lives....I've had girls whose parents knew they were selling their asses on the streets since they were 14 and had no problem with it, all of a sudden have a tissyfit seeing them naked online now that they're fully grown adults..

I've seen a LOT of things that a girl will do for money and I've come to the conclusion that nude pictures is nothing but a reminder and proof to everybody how she was all along...It's nothing but a facade...

And since I shoot the less attractive models like you do, along with those girls calling you guilt tripping you, I know you've had plenty of girls who have thanked you for making them feel that they were attractive...You've had plenty of girls who want even MORE attention and do more scenes because they're openminded enough not to worry about what people say about what they do...You've had girls who had plenty of fun while shooting with you to the point where getting paid was just icing on the cake..You've had girls who had no other way of paying a pressing bill besides selling their ass who were able to pay it because they did business with you...

If the porn biz isn't for you, it's better to just say that your christian beliefs don't coincide with producing pornography...But trying to excuse yourself from it where in ESSENCE you said you were "victimizing" fully grown women is the same line of B.S. that we who choose to stay in this industry have to deal with now...And be sure to display the good AND the bad of this industry..
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:09 PM   #155
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Let me tell you one small thing:

In the 8 years I've been involved in this business my strong point has been recruiting models. I have recruited hundreds of girls who would never have taken their clothes off for a camera if they hadn't met me.

Lately we're becoming so well known that almost every model we recruit ends up found by family members.

Now, I can tell myself it's their own fault, they were warned, they signed a 5 page model release telling them exactly what was going to happen, whoop whoop whoop. But none of that stops the pain every time another girl calls on the phone asking what to do now that daddy and mommy are telling her she's shamed her family.

In LA things are different. Girls go there to be porn stars. Up here I advertise and pay referral fees. Models come in, see my fancy house and nice things, and want to be involved. The nice things are intoxicating.

These same girls would never have been involved in this business if it weren't for me.

Guilt? Yeah. You can say that. But it also got me thinking about exactly what I'm doing. And why. And I came to the conclusion that my role in this industry is very selfish.

I'm not going to insult any of the rest of you for what you do in this business. But I am going to tell you that, for me, I am done. And I need help getting out, because God knows I've tried to do it myself a few times.

But this time I'm making it public and making it happen. And I have to tell you I feel really good about it. I'm going to lose everything I have, yet I feel warm inside.

I'll still be around. I'm just out of the porn business myself. You do what's right for you and your family and I'll be happy for you. But this isn't good for me anymore.

Know what I mean?

Donny, That is the devils work.. if One was to measure who in porn is the most evil, the girl/talent model, the talent scout luring the girl into the business, the photographer/producer, the website owner, the consumer ??
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:20 PM   #156
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To me you want to get out of porn, to do it cold turkey is a recipe for failure.Why not be a adult about it and say by this time next year or in 6 months.I will be out of porn and make a game plan. To lose everything in the name of god is not wise. Also is Donny having a nervous breakdown possibly and this leech jumped in while the getting is good? Poor Belinda. Also if you have that many girls calling you regretting what they did. Your not a careful recruiter.Also who at playboy do I call to get the business you threw away. lol

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Old 09-28-2006, 05:26 PM   #157
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:34 PM   #158
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:35 PM   #159
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Also if you have that many girls calling you regretting what they did. Your not a careful recruiter.
Now that's a big crock of SHIT! You obviously aren't in the business of recruiting a lot of girls to say that.
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Just off the cuff, but....

Most of you people are fucking ridiculous. Let the dude be and do what he feels is "right". So the rest of you feel objectifying people to line your pockets is copacetic. Good for you. I have qualms about it myself, sometimes, but I deal with it in my own way. Donny seems to have come to terms with his issues regarding that and is dealing with it in his way.

I don't know the dude, or any of you, but good for him and fuck the rest of you who are judging him.
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Now that's a big crock of SHIT! You obviously aren't in the business of recruiting a lot of girls to say that.
lets see I interviewed my first girls for adult 16 yrs ago, been shooting for the web for 5 yrs. I ve talked many a girl out of doing porn because I felt it wasnt in her best interests and it might bite me in the ass later.
We will have class:
Girl still lives with parents
girl has bf who doesnt know
girls who you have to push to do it
a girl is going to school to become a school teacher
these are all no no s
Its sloppy recruiting , I would rather have to drive to other states to get models, then push girls into doing this to only have bullshit in the end or feel so guilty have to go find god.
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:45 PM   #162
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Just off the cuff, but....

Most of you people are fucking ridiculous. Let the dude be and do what he feels is "right". So the rest of you feel objectifying people to line your pockets is copacetic. Good for you. I have qualms about it myself, sometimes, but I deal with it in my own way. Donny seems to have come to terms with his issues regarding that and is dealing with it in his way.

I don't know the dude, or any of you, but good for him and fuck the rest of you who are judging him.
no whats scary is someone is in pain and this probably is just a hard time for him. I don't think Donny is thinking clearly probably driving himself in to bankruptcy. People leave this business all the time, Mr IZZ did to go fulltime mainstream everyone wished him all the best. he didnt cut and run doing harm to himself, in a emotional moment.
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Its sloppy recruiting , I would rather have to drive to other states to get models, then push girls into doing this to only have bullshit in the end or feel so guilty have to go find god.
There's a difference between recruiting and "pushing" girls into doing it...Don't get it twisted between recruiting and coercion.
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Old 09-28-2006, 07:14 PM   #167
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Now thats one helluva shit eating grin.
That's the dude that is going to show Donny the way?

Lawd have mercy!!!



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As for the questions about Belinda... she thinks I've gone temporarily insane. She just told me so.
Let's hope that she's right, for both of your sakes.
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Reading some of the posts in threads like this one are bound to drive people to want to get out of this industry. Seriously. Which is more inspiring: Jesus or GFY? Sometimes to escape something soulsucking you look to something that will feed you spiritually.

There are shitty things about both porn and organized religion -- Donny has experience with both so I doubt any negative things anyone has to say about either will be anything new to him.

Good luck, Donny -- I hope you achieve balance and wisdom, and experience happiness and peace on your journey.
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What irony that no sooner does Donny make his announcement that he is bailing on the adult industry, that the people at ********* are already trying to exploit and capitalize on their new "solo model" (so to speak)...

They actually flew someone out from Michigan to California to brainwash and monitor him full time (in true cult indoctrination fashion), so that he wouldn't have a chance to think for himself and reconsider.



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Reading some of the posts in threads like this one are bound to drive people to want to get out of this industry. Seriously. Which is more inspiring: Jesus or GFY? Sometimes to escape something soulsucking you look to something that will feed you spiritually.

There are shitty things about both porn and organized religion -- Donny has experience with both so I doubt any negative things anyone has to say about either will be anything new to him.

Good luck, Donny -- I hope you achieve balance and wisdom, and experience happiness and peace on your journey.



I've been very vocally outspoken against Christianity right here on this board, on my blog, on the ********* message board, on the ********* blog, and on various other sites around the internet.

Don't think for a second that my doubts have miraculously been washed away. They haven't.

But what I realized is that I can focus on the GOOD parts. There are bad people and bad things in every part of life. I can dwell on the bad and ignore the good that can help me, or I can ignore the bad parts and focus on the good.

That's what I'm doing. This year in adult has been a bad one for me. My heart and soul have been ripped out in more ways than one. It was time to make a drastic change.

This is me. I am not telling a single one of you what to do. I just don't feel the need to hide what *I* am doing. And I'm definitely not ashamed of it.

Thanks to those who wish me well. And also to those who are not wishing me well. Both sides serve a unique purpose.
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Um, yeah, we get it already.

You: Boo hoo...I'm a bad toy, I must repent.

Us: We understand. Good for you.

You: Bye... <waves>

Us: Bye... <we wave back>

You: Yup, I'm really leaving...

Us: We know, you already said that.

You: So bye...not coming back.

Us: So leave already...

I wish you well Donny, but you're being a bit of a maudlin drama queen.

Have a good life...

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Old 09-28-2006, 11:33 PM   #173
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Right from the beginning I said I wasn't going away from the board or my blog. I simply said I was getting out of porn. That's it.

You've always come across as a rather decent guy. No need to start changing that now, right?
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Old 09-28-2006, 11:37 PM   #174
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Right from the beginning I said I wasn't going away from the board or my blog. I simply said I was getting out of porn. That's it.

You've always come across as a rather decent guy. No need to start changing that now, right?
He's been a jackass for weeks but you've had your moments as well no?
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Now thats one helluva shit eating grin.
Heh so thats the guy from *********, well I guess Jesus never did bless him with looks.
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So, lets assume this is true. If we go from there then most of the people in this thread are jerks. Somebody makes a personal choice about the direction of their life. Doesn't say porn is evil, just says it maybe isn't for him. Doesn't bring it to the boards, just posts on his blog and somebody else brings it up and all these people jump on him and go on the attack in just the same way religious nuts go at people *they* want to convert. You should just be shaking his hand, wishing him well and maybe even thinking that is one less person competing with you.

Sarah, it is now MY turn to tell YOU that you seem like my kind of girl.
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Hehe, a man stands up for what he believes in, decides to announce he's leaving the biz, and everyone slams him!



Donny, next time you make a post, say that you were caught drinking and driving after cheating on your wife with a handicapped asian boy filming scat and beast porn without the required 2257 dcos. I bet that post would go over better for you than this one did.
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Right from the beginning I said I wasn't going away from the board or my blog. I simply said I was getting out of porn. That's it.
Again why? Why be here if your out of the biz? Surley you have a life outside GFY?

GFY is an adult webmaster forum for adult webmasters. Why anyone would want to post here if they are now a bible basher is beyond me. Sounds like you need to get a hobby.
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hey isn't that like jeff from busty... LOL .. BAC...
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not too sound too crass but if you are a born again christian would you not kill this site?? http://donnysmoney.com/ also isn't your cousin kristin?? seriously if you are going to leave do that leave and do it the way the busty did it ... acutally take all your sites down and actually have convictions... jeff gave his money that he made to the church that he went to. do the same and actually have a conviction .... my conviction i am a pornagrapher and will do nothing else ... thanks for all your rantings but marketing something like this is just bad unless you actually take your websites down..
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Cool...Hope this is your mind making the decision... I can't say I agree with you, but my ideals aren't yours. Cheers and enjoy your new found relationship with God. From what I hear, he's a good guy.
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not too sound too crass but if you are a born again christian would you not kill this site?? http://donnysmoney.com/ also isn't your cousin kristin?? seriously if you are going to leave do that leave and do it the way the busty did it ... acutally take all your sites down and actually have convictions... jeff gave his money that he made to the church that he went to. do the same and actually have a conviction .... my conviction i am a pornagrapher and will do nothing else ... thanks for all your rantings but marketing something like this is just bad unless you actually take your websites down..
Try reading the thread next time, he sold his sites over a year ago.
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Cool...Hope this is your mind making the decision... I can't say I agree with you, but my ideals aren't yours. Cheers and enjoy your new found relationship with God. From what I hear, he's a good guy.
Dear god, hope you get the letter and...
I pray you can make it better down here
I don't mean a big reduction in the price of beer
But all the people that you made in your image
See them starving in the street
'Cause they don't get enough to eat from god
I can't believe in you

Dear god, sorry to disturb you but...
I feel that I should be heard loud and clear
We all need a big reduction in amount of tears
And all the people that you made in your image
See them fighting in the street
'Cause they can't make opinions meet about god
I can't believe in you

Did you make disease and the diamond blue?
Did you make mankind after we made you?
And the devil too!

Dear god don't know if you noticed but...
Your name is on a lot of quotes in this book
And us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look
And all the people that you made in your image
still believing that junk is true
Well I know it ain't, and so do you
Dear god
I can't believe in
I don't believe

I won't believe in heaven or hell
No saints, no sinners, no devil as well
No pearly gates, no thorny crown
You're always letting us humans down
The wars you bring, the babes you drown
Those lost at sea and never found
And it's the same the whole world 'round
The hurt I see helps to compound
That father, son and holy ghost
Is just somebody's unholy hoax
And if you're up there you'll perceive
That my heart's here upon my sleeve
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Old 09-29-2006, 02:15 AM   #187
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Try reading the thread next time, he sold his sites over a year ago.
they are still up with his name on it ... as well as he made his cash off them .. at least in my 12 years of people leaving this industry under similar circumstances they do not take money .. they shut the sites down and do not keep them around .. just 12 years of seeing this industry ..


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Old 09-29-2006, 04:38 AM   #188
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What irony that no sooner does Donny make his announcement that he is bailing on the adult industry, that the people at ********* are already trying to exploit and capitalize on their new "solo model" (so to speak)...

They actually flew someone out from Michigan to California to brainwash and monitor him full time (in true cult indoctrination fashion), so that he wouldn't have a chance to think for himself and reconsider.



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Exactly! fucking sick shit, some inbred cult converter sleeping in his house.... I bet he loved to go there cuz of the naked chick pics too, the fucking hypocrite rat.
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Old 09-29-2006, 05:31 AM   #189
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Old 09-29-2006, 05:39 AM   #190
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Let me tell you one small thing:

In the 8 years I've been involved in this business my strong point has been recruiting models. I have recruited hundreds of girls who would never have taken their clothes off for a camera if they hadn't met me.

Lately we're becoming so well known that almost every model we recruit ends up found by family members.

Now, I can tell myself it's their own fault, they were warned, they signed a 5 page model release telling them exactly what was going to happen, whoop whoop whoop. But none of that stops the pain every time another girl calls on the phone asking what to do now that daddy and mommy are telling her she's shamed her family.

In LA things are different. Girls go there to be porn stars. Up here I advertise and pay referral fees. Models come in, see my fancy house and nice things, and want to be involved. The nice things are intoxicating.

These same girls would never have been involved in this business if it weren't for me.

Guilt? Yeah. You can say that. But it also got me thinking about exactly what I'm doing. And why. And I came to the conclusion that my role in this industry is very selfish.

I'm not going to insult any of the rest of you for what you do in this business. But I am going to tell you that, for me, I am done. And I need help getting out, because God knows I've tried to do it myself a few times.

But this time I'm making it public and making it happen. And I have to tell you I feel really good about it. I'm going to lose everything I have, yet I feel warm inside.

I'll still be around. I'm just out of the porn business myself. You do what's right for you and your family and I'll be happy for you. But this isn't good for me anymore.

Know what I mean?
geez donny. you talk like you were making gangbang flicks or something. the stuff you do on your site is closer to art than it is to porn. just pictures of naked girls, not of them getting fucked or whatever else. the only people who should have a problem with this are people who have issues dealing with their own sexuality. is really a more beautiful creation than that of a woman? i think not. i bet your ex wife is loving this right now, finally she is right, eh?
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Old 09-29-2006, 07:39 AM   #191
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Even though, I don't know him personally it sounds like to me Donny was struggling with the pain families had to deal with when some girls he worked with had models remorse. Many of us have been judged by what I like to call hypochristians in the past and I think this explains some of the lashing out at Donny who doesn't seem to be judging anyone, just struggling with his own path.

I wish you much happiness in whatever path you are on Donny.
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Old 09-29-2006, 07:48 AM   #192
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Why is getting out of porn financial bankruptcy? I have some freesites with text on them but the rest of the money I've been making is in real estate and I'm studying to be a medical coder. To think this is the only business you can make money in is bizarre.

Follow your heart, Donny. I did it and it's the best thing I ever did
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Old 09-29-2006, 08:00 AM   #193
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Why is getting out of porn financial bankruptcy? I have some freesites with text on them but the rest of the money I've been making is in real estate and I'm studying to be a medical coder. To think this is the only business you can make money in is bizarre.

Follow your heart, Donny. I did it and it's the best thing I ever did
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Old 09-29-2006, 08:22 AM   #194
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Turning to religion in this instance is a sign of failure. Trust me, if you were making big time $ and not struggling, Jesus would be the furthest from your mind!
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Old 09-29-2006, 09:03 AM   #195
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Why is getting out of porn financial bankruptcy? I have some freesites with text on them but the rest of the money I've been making is in real estate and I'm studying to be a medical coder. To think this is the only business you can make money in is bizarre.

Follow your heart, Donny. I did it and it's the best thing I ever did
Not big on that reading comprehension thing huh lol
First off he said that I will probably lose everything.
Also the mainstream world is even more slimey then the porn, I worked in it for a longtime. It would be more christ like to work in porn but do it with honor and do the right thing and show people by example. Also a over night change cut and run isnt following your heart its a mild emotional breakdown.
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Old 09-29-2006, 09:05 AM   #196
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they are still up with his name on it ... as well as he made his cash off them .. at least in my 12 years of people leaving this industry under similar circumstances they do not take money .. they shut the sites down and do not keep them around .. just 12 years of seeing this industry ..


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He does not own the sites and he is no longer making money off of them, he no longer has any say what happens to the sites. Geez, isn't he able to leave the way he wants for the reasons he wants, everyone seems to want to criticize him for making a stand and leaving on his terms.
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Why is getting out of porn financial bankruptcy? I have some freesites with text on them .............
Then you're not out of porn. Come back after you shut down your sites and tell all your sponsors to stop sending you checks.
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they are still up with his name on it ... as well as he made his cash off them .. at least in my 12 years of people leaving this industry under similar circumstances they do not take money .. they shut the sites down and do not keep them around .. just 12 years of seeing this industry ..
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I have to admit I don't get that either. I don't see how you can have anything to do with this business while having swore it off.
It would be like a drunk working in a brewery, getting all the free booze he can drink and one day decides to quit drinking, while still being around it is just too tempting. We're only human.


In this case Donny does not own the sites but the name is still there.

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Old 09-29-2006, 09:26 AM   #199
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Donny, I have a question. I know the xxx church is against porn and all that jazz, but is it their stance that masturbation is wrong, as well?

In other words, do they think you shouldn't masturbate? Or is it okay as long as you're not looking at porn while you do it? Ask the goofy looking guy for me.
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Old 09-29-2006, 09:34 AM   #200
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I have to admit I don't get that either. I don't see how you can have anything to do with this business while having swore it off.
It would be like a drunk working in a brewery, getting all the free booze he can drink and one day decides to quit drinking, while still being around it is just too tempting. We're only human.


In this case Donny does not own the sites but the name is still there.
Donovan Phillips is not my name. He could be anybody. The name was used for branding. When Jason bought the sites, he bought the name as well.
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