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Old 06-27-2002, 03:26 PM   #1
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One Time Program Announcement: Gallery Submit Service Is Open!

Hey all, just wanted to let you know our initial testing is done and our new company is open and ready to do business!

www.gallerysubmitservice.com

Gallery submit service is a new way for webmasters to attain TGP traffic without the hassle of submitting to dozens of TGP's daily and responding to all the confirmation e-mails. No we are not a automated submission service. We have a highly experienced team of gallery submitters that "hand-submit" your galleries daily for a reasonable fee. All you have to do is sit back and watch the traffic and sales roll in!

Everyday our team of submitters will submit your galleries to the top 50-60 TGP websites. In addition we confirm all your e-mail confirmations we receive from TGP's regarding your submissions. This way all the mundane submission tasks are taken care of for you and you can spend your time on other projects. Our initial clients have enjoyed generous revenues from their TGP galleries and spend less than a few minutes a week! We even offer a professional gallery design service for an extra added fee!

Come check out our site and please contact me if you have any questions! This service is really taking off and early feedback has been fantastic!

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Old 06-27-2002, 03:28 PM   #2
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To add we are working on building relationships with many large TGP's so that our client's galleries will have preferred listings when we submit. We already have a preferred listing at Mick's Pics that will allow our submitted client's galleries to be posted at the 80+ sites that Mick's Pics gallery tgp script is utilized at.

It works for the TGP owners since we "pre-screen" the galleries before they are submitted for blind links, dialers etc.... Plus the TGP owners know where the galleries are coming from. We basically do the reviewing for them.

We are very excited about the possibilities. If any TGP owners would like us to add them to our submit list. Please feel free to contact me on ICQ.
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Great job DH. Good luck with it. It looks like a winner.
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How do you accept the emails? Do we give you the pop3 email info? Also wont multiple submissions daily get you banned?
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Thanks Captain P, we are getting tons of inquiries. My ICQ is like a christmas tree right now. Blink! Blink! Blink!
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How do you accept the emails? Do we give you the pop3 email info? Also wont multiple submissions daily get you banned?
Hi Disil, we accept the e-mails through our own e-mail system "@gallerysubmitservice.com". We make it perfectly clear that we are submitting for you and that we are not pulling the wool over any TGP owner's eyes. We want to supply them with quality galleries daily and that is exactly what they want.

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Might have a problem with the Same IP address submitting, if some sites are using autogallery. Also you should submit to tgpfeed.com
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Might have a problem with the Same IP address submitting, if some sites are using autogallery. Also you should submit to tgpfeed.com
Actually we use seperate IP addresses.

Thanks for the tip about TGPfeed we will definetely look into it!

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Daily fee is $20. $20 x 30 = $600 per month.

Let's say traffic generated is total of 5k [conservatively]. Monthly rate is 150k. Let's say that click through ratio is conservatively at 1%. 1,500 clicks. Assuming that you use a typical PSU sponsor with a TGP conversion rate of 1:500, you get 3 Signups @ standard rate of $35 per SU. Totaly Payout: $105

Net Loss: $495

How about if you price this at $100 per month? Then, worst case, the customer still comes out $5 ahead.

This post is not meant as a flame, let me know if your % numbers are different.
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Daily fee is $20. $20 x 30 = $600 per month.

Let's say traffic generated is total of 5k [conservatively]. Monthly rate is 150k. Let's say that click through ratio is conservatively at 1%. 1,500 clicks. Assuming that you use a typical PSU sponsor with a TGP conversion rate of 1:500, you get 3 Signups @ standard rate of $35 per SU. Totaly Payout: $105

Net Loss: $495

How about if you price this at $100 per month? Then, worst case, the customer still comes out $5 ahead.

This post is not meant as a flame, let me know if your % numbers are different.
The big flaw here is 'traffic generated 5K' . If they're hand submitting to 50 TGPs there's no way you would get that little traffic unless your galleries suck.
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Hi Disil, we accept the e-mails through our own e-mail system "@gallerysubmitservice.com". We make it perfectly clear that we are submitting for you and that we are not pulling the wool over any TGP owner's eyes. We want to supply them with quality galleries daily and that is exactly what they want.

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That same domain email address for all the submits might get the galleries filtered out on many TGP scripts.
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Daily fee is $20. $20 x 30 = $600 per month.

Let's say traffic generated is total of 5k [conservatively]. Monthly rate is 150k. Let's say that click through ratio is conservatively at 1%. 1,500 clicks. Assuming that you use a typical PSU sponsor with a TGP conversion rate of 1:500, you get 3 Signups @ standard rate of $35 per SU. Totaly Payout: $105

Net Loss: $495

How about if you price this at $100 per month? Then, worst case, the customer still comes out $5 ahead.

This post is not meant as a flame, let me know if your % numbers are different.
Hey Gsharp no worries no offence taken! Well first of all we would not be charging people $20 per day if we were only going to generate them 5k a day. DAMN what a ripoff!!!

As I have mentioned before traffic will vary dependent on gallery design, content and amount of advertising in the gallery.

I honestly can't see why we would not be able to generate at least 50K a day of traffic by at the very least the 2nd week. You have to remember many of the big TGP's are anywhere from 2 days to 2 weeks behind in their submissions.

So at 50k a day (conservative figure as many of our clients receive more that 50k a day). 1% click thru rate which is extremely low, most click thru rates are close to 2% but regardless. 1% click thru rate is 500 clicks. And most decent converting sponsors will convert around 1:300. And an average $35 per signup payout would generate for you approximately 50 signups.

50 signups at $35 a shot would give you $1750

Minus of course the initial $600 for submission fees. You make $1150.

Some clients do 2-3 submissions a day so I think you can do the math on that one.

Please let me know if you have any questions?
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That same domain email address for all the submits might get the galleries filtered out on many TGP scripts.
You have to remember Disil that we are looking to build relationships with these big TGPs so that they will more readily accept our galleries because of all the benefits we have to offer in regards to checking the galleries before submitting. We are not in any way looking to abuse the system.

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You have to remember Disil that we are looking to build relationships with these big TGPs so that they will more readily accept our galleries because of all the benefits we have to offer in regards to checking the galleries before submitting. We are not in any way looking to abuse the system.

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Shouldnt you have thought about this before you try biliking people for a monthly fee?

your "looking to build relationships with these big TGPs"..you dont have them already?.

You should have the foundation in place before you take money from people....then you would have a true service..right now you have nothing.

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Hmm, only one question. Looks like a great service, but why would tgp's ( the big ones) want your service. I always thought the argument against auto submits was that they sell ads on their webmaster page and want the actual webmasters to go there. I dont know if thats true, i just seem to remember hearing that.
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....then you would have a true service..right now you have nothing.
The fact that he made some partnership with tgps or not isn't a service...submitting galleries is a service...you pay, they submit galleries...what's the problem?

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The fact that he made some partnership with tgps or not isn't a service...submitting galleries is a service...you pay, they submit galleries...what's the problem?

BTW looks nice DH
I'm with you... I think it looks great. I'm going to give it a try for sure.
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I'm with you... I think it looks great. I'm going to give it a try for sure.
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The fact that he made some partnership with tgps or not isn't a service...submitting galleries is a service...you pay, they submit galleries...what's the problem?

BTW looks nice DH

The problem is that 99% of TGPs dont take multiple subbmissions from one place

Drinking guy hasnt got this figured out yet...hes "looking" to make it ok with TGP owners.

He should have done this before his venture opened and asking people for money.
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I hate it when people yell spam for every little thing... he's not spamming, he's using his "one time announcement"... so lay off.

And I for one, like to see people doing BUSINESS on the boards.
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I hate it when people yell spam for every little thing... he's not spamming, he's using his "one time announcement"... so lay off.

And I for one, like to see people doing BUSINESS on the boards.
Dont mind him, he's a third world programmer who cant compete with a professional like myself. Very bitter
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Mariuz, you seem to have a hate on for me for some reason. But to answer your questions. Yes we do have many preferred TGP deals already in the works. BUT you have to remember that our service is not a guaranteed listing service it is a gallery submission service. We guarantee to submit your galleries everyday but we can't unfortunately guarantee that they will get listed. It is your job to "sell" the TGP owner into listing your gallery and then you have to sell the surfer to buy your product.

As for 99.9% of TGP's only accepting 1 submission a day is false. If you check about 99.9% of TGP's accept more than one submission (usually 2).

As I said before this service is for the individual that does not have time to submit galleries everyday. It is also great for someone starting a new paysite and wants to generate some traffic! Think about it this way... If you received 50,000 hits a day for an entire month. That would be 1.5 million hits for only $600!!! I don't know too many traffic brokers that can hand you that kind of deal

Mariuz, feel free to contact me on ICQ if you have any further questions.
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No "hate" for you
just pointing out the things you forget to mention.

And as far as your comment about what traffic broker can hand you that....well a real traffic broker will deliver traffic right to the front door of my paysite....not some half ass tgp gallery...
so no..its not that great of a deal.
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I don't submit to tgps regularly its not my thing, but when I do its good sign ups to my sites and a small amount of bw is the cost.

But keeping an eye on which tgps are listing me, what their rules are, their current recip is a pain in the ass.

I don't have time to do it, I pay them $20 a gallery thats it. 1 sale per gallery I break even, anything over 1 am in profit.

People should consider this as similar to a paid listing on a bigger tgp, you pay out you get traffic.
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Thanks Porno Pete and Heymatty for your kind comments!

Our submitters are busier now than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest!

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You know what i like about this...its fucking original. I can't remember seeing something like this before. So good service, great service, good for you, bad for me.... whatever it ends up being. He's offering something i don't think anyone else is right now.



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No "hate" for you
just pointing out the things you forget to mention.

And as far as your comment about what traffic broker can hand you that....well a real traffic broker will deliver traffic right to the front door of my paysite....not some half ass tgp gallery...
so no..its not that great of a deal.
Well Mariuz I wish I could change your mind. I know for a fact that I can make you money... My whole livelyhood depends on my ability to convert TGP traffic... Please don't hesitate to contact me anytime to chat.

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so is it hard training wild monkeys to submit galleries?
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so is it hard training wild monkeys to submit galleries?
LOL! Why are you looking for a job?

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May I ask to how many TGP's you will submit my gallery each day?
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May I ask to how many TGP's you will submit my gallery each day?
Hi Goonx, we submit your TGP's to the top 50-60 TGP sites. As for which ones... The closest list would be the Sextracker Top 100, give or take a few

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This a good deal for TGP owners to get 20 to 50 pre-reviewed galleries that are from diferent people so there will be diferent styles is a great Idea. Anyone who has done reviewing knows what a pain in the ass reviewing is and I talked to Drinking hard on ICQ about this He says that will not post cheating galleries or If poeple redirect afterwards he will ban them from his service.
Most guys who pay for this type of service are more serious as well Its a win win to me.
Im sure this should be a winner
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This a good deal for TGP owners to get 20 to 50 pre-reviewed galleries that are from diferent people so there will be diferent styles is a great Idea. Anyone who has done reviewing knows what a pain in the ass reviewing is and I talked to Drinking hard on ICQ about this He says that will not post cheating galleries or If poeple redirect afterwards he will ban them from his service.
Most guys who pay for this type of service are more serious as well Its a win win to me.
Im sure this should be a winner
Thanks Bake!

As matter of fact we are very adamant about exposing any cheaters that would choose to use our system to generate income. We would never do business with them again and also make sure all the major TGP's know about the offending individual and divulge all information we have about them.

Cheaters won't win with us!

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why would someone choose a manual submission service over an automated one.

you'll submit their gallery to 50-60.. but a combination of automated ones (albeit it won't be 100% acceptance) will spam it to hundreds.. and is a lot cheaper then paying people to hand submit. also, depending on the program it's a one time charge to buy the software. not a per-gallery charge..
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why would someone choose a manual submission service over an automated one.

you'll submit their gallery to 50-60.. but a combination of automated ones (albeit it won't be 100% acceptance) will spam it to hundreds.. and is a lot cheaper then paying people to hand submit. also, depending on the program it's a one time charge to buy the software. not a per-gallery charge..
The reason why Mike, is because there are so many cheaters out there using the automated systems that you talk about. None of the big boys (JJJ, The Hun, Zilla) will take automated submissions and might actually ban you for using the automated systems to submit to them. That is why you have to hand submit to them...

We do also offer an automated TGP sub for our clients for an added fee. But we make sure that all the large TGP's are off the automated sub so no one gets blacklisted.

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its not that much work to do, hahaha
You would be suprised Fletch. Accurately submitting and confirming to 60 TGP's does take some time. But you have to remember we are marketing our services to those individuals that DON'T have the time or patience to submit every single day. That is why they hire us to do it for them.

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i'd be more inclined to buy a private auto submitter or have someone make me one, that submits in a controlled way to all tgp's. that way it's not overused and the sites wouldn't tell the difference between the auto-submitted one and the manual submission. it's not really that hard

but i'm sure you'll get some good business since there are a lot of non-coding-equipped people out there who need this work done. good luck
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i'd be more inclined to buy a private auto submitter or have someone make me one, that submits in a controlled way to all tgp's. that way it's not overused and the sites wouldn't tell the difference between the auto-submitted one and the manual submission. it's not really that hard

but i'm sure you'll get some good business since there are a lot of non-coding-equipped people out there who need this work done. good luck

But the thing is.... Will you remember to submit every single day? Including sundays, holidays and vacations???

Because I don't think your auto submitter program will remember. We would remember

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Do you include MGP in this? If I have movie galleries, do you submit them to all the 50-60 TGP accepting movies AND 50-60 MGP... I would be more interested in this one.
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But the thing is.... Will you remember to submit every single day? Including sundays, holidays and vacations???

Because I don't think your auto submitter program will remember. We would remember

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sure it would. depends on what i'd make it for. i could schedule my submissions for X days/months/years out and since it was automated, i wouldn't have to worry about someone dying in a car wreck or getting a virus and couldn't submit my galleries that day...
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leave monkeys out of this


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Do you include MGP in this? If I have movie galleries, do you submit them to all the 50-60 TGP accepting movies AND 50-60 MGP... I would be more interested in this one.
Great question indigo. Yes we can submit movie galleries as well! Please contact me for further details.

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Do you include MGP in this? If I have movie galleries, do you submit them to all the 50-60 TGP accepting movies AND 50-60 MGP... I would be more interested in this one.
since they do it manually i'm sure you can request specific sites. it's manual, so there's no "bounds" or "limits" - remember you're just paying people to do the submission work for you, it's not some system or something with limited capabilities.
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My main beef about subbing is doing it every single day religiously. Just missing a few days like I did when I was at the Montreal conference really hurt my traffic (and sales.)

Who's gonna sub for ya while you are on vacation or out of commission recovering from your penis enlargment surgery! (oops did I say that outloud...not that Id know any thing about, it was my....uh..friend,ya ya, my friend that had it done)
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what kind of fucking thread is this?

would you REALLY buy a service from this man?...

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heheh, j/k drinkinghard... nice idea.
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