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Jenny S. · 09-23-2006, 10:25 AM

Last night I wanted to register the domain "oldhodog" for a friend who hubby and I help out with a page. I "directnicked" it and also checked the availability with the server company. Full of joy that the domain was still available I went to bed because it was getting late. This morning I tried to register it. Guess what? Gone! Someone else registered it last night

Domain Name: oldhodog.com
ICANN Registrar:
NAMEKING.COM, INC.
Created:
22-Sep-2006
Expires:
22-Sep-2007
Registrar Status:
REGISTRAR-LOCK
Whois Server:
whois.nameking.com
Name Server:
NS11.MALTUZI.COM

I don't know what the fuck is going on, but I can only advidse all fellow webmasters to register a domain right when you check its availability because I smell a fucking rat. Something is fishy here. Somebody must have gotten his hands on my query last night and registerd the domain right away.

No big loss here, we are very creative when it comes to domain names. It sitll sucks because there is something going on.

My hsuband also remembered talking to a dude in Vegas two years ago who said he checked a domain from work and when he came back home 12 hours later to register it, it was gone.

Halcyon · 09-23-2006, 10:28 AM

that SUCKS.

I've heard of people having a form of spyware that might be involved in broadcasting a domain inquiry.
I grabbed a few names last night. Now I'm glad I did!

dullspace · 09-23-2006, 10:29 AM

Hey, I don't have time to explain the details of how / why this happened, but it's because of some outdated ICANN rules that allow registrars to chill on a name for 5 days for free.

Wait a week and your domain will be availible again. Also, I would advise you edit your post so no one here acts like a douchebag and registers it in 5 days for real-real.

Jenny S. · 09-23-2006, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon

that SUCKS.

I've heard of people having a form of spyware that might be involved in broadcasting a domain inquiry.
I grabbed a few names last night. Now I'm glad I did!

No spyware here. Run Mac and Unix, Firewall and and SpyAlert anti spyware software, plus, I live so far from the next house that nobody can sneak up in our driveway and log into our network without getting his ass shot first by our AK-47 toting redneck neighbor.

Jenny S. · 09-23-2006, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dullspace

Hey, I don't have time to explain the details of how / why this happened, but it's because of some outdated ICANN rules that allow registrars to chill on a name for 5 days for free.

Wait a week and your domain will be availible again. Also, I would advise you edit your post so no one here acts like a douchebag and registers it in 5 days for real-real.

OK, thanks for the advice. Take the domain, guys, I already registered another one now. Would still be nice to find out how exactly this happened, the nic says the domain expires on 9/22/07?

tony286 · 09-23-2006, 10:36 AM

thats strange indeed

squishypimp · 09-23-2006, 10:37 AM

alot of domains are getting dropped for incomplete or fake DNS WhoIs information. update your domains people

dcortez · 09-23-2006, 10:49 AM

Are you really surpised?

It makes perfect sense that inquiries would be rich data harvest material with immediate resale value.

Sorry, you missed the domain you wanted, but I bet you might be doing things differently next time.

Manowar · 09-23-2006, 10:50 AM

they will drop it in 5 days i bet

fallenmuffin · 09-23-2006, 10:53 AM

Damn, that sucks. That's happened to me a few times. Now, I register a domain everytime I think up one and I'm stuck with too many domains!

Brujah · 09-23-2006, 10:54 AM

Don't do your Whois lookups with them anymore. They're obviously allowing data to be shared and used.

Use this program.
http://www.gena01.com/win32whois/

Never had a problem doing it this way.

cyberstar · 09-23-2006, 10:57 AM

i've heard of this happen before! i never ever wait to register a domain.. i like it, i buy it right away.

Serge Litehead · 09-23-2006, 11:20 AM

i wouldn't "directnick" a domain or for that matter use any other third party registrars for whois.

if you're on unix it's even easier to use builtin whois to check domains and safer too.

Major (Tom) · 09-23-2006, 01:24 PM

just start searching for anything... they will even buy them too

duke

Major (Tom) · 09-23-2006, 01:25 PM

ignore redundant post

HairToStay · 09-23-2006, 01:38 PM

Domain kiting. They register thousands of domains, put up a parking page, collect the cash for 5 days, then let the domain drop.

ForteCash · 09-23-2006, 01:51 PM

Yeah, that happened to me back in 95 with SEX.com. Un fucking beleivable. Oh well, I'm sure some bigger opportunity is righ around the corner.

JD · 09-23-2006, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dullspace

Hey, I don't have time to explain the details of how / why this happened, but it's because of some outdated ICANN rules that allow registrars to chill on a name for 5 days for free.

Wait a week and your domain will be availible again. Also, I would advise you edit your post so no one here acts like a douchebag and registers it in 5 days for real-real.

that's your only hope. Just pray that it's not worth anything to them because they'll keep the fucker if it turns a profit from type ins.

MaDalton · 09-23-2006, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

Don't do your Whois lookups with them anymore. They're obviously allowing data to be shared and used.

Use this program.
http://www.gena01.com/win32whois/

Never had a problem doing it this way.

hot little proggie - me likey

tranza · 09-23-2006, 02:05 PM

Why didn't you register it yesterday anyway???

dcortez · 09-23-2006, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HairToStay

Domain kiting. They register thousands of domains, put up a parking page, collect the cash for 5 days, then let the domain drop.

Who are 'they'?

Do they pay for the domains?

Sparks · 09-23-2006, 03:08 PM

I've heard of this happening before. If you find something good get it right away. There has to be a leak from inside one of the domain companies you searched on or manybe they own the company that snatched up your domain...

Jenny S. · 09-23-2006, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

Why didn't you register it yesterday anyway???

Because I am fucking stupid, and lazy on top.

HairToStay · 09-23-2006, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcortez

Who are 'they'?

Do they pay for the domains?

http://www.bobparsons.com/MayKiting.html

Matt 26z · 09-23-2006, 04:31 PM

I've had two domains snatched and then they were available again a few days later. Both times I had used whois.sc to initially check for them.

ICANN needs to do something about domainers and bottom feeders looking for old traffic domains.

Jenny S. · 09-23-2006, 04:35 PM

As far as I can see this applies to random domains or domains that are close to well know domains.

What I want to know is how a query like mine at directnic gets out to the domian snatchers within hours? What scumbag company is that?

Matt 26z · 09-23-2006, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenny S.

What I want to know is how a query like mine at directnic gets out to the domian snatchers within hours? What scumbag company is that?

DirectNic was the one and only place you searched for it?

Jenny S. · 09-23-2006, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

DirectNic was the one and only place you searched for it?

No, I also put it in the domain check tool at dreamhost.

grusthumbs · 09-23-2006, 05:20 PM

It sucks but it happens

You have to be real quick

Gillespie · 09-23-2006, 05:33 PM

Use godaddy to check on names, then use your registrar of choice to register. Godaddy uses SSL, which provides more security. Plus, they don't register good finds.

There was an article on Digg a while ago involving this type of thing and CNET.

Pornwolf · 09-23-2006, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcortez

Are you really surpised?

It makes perfect sense that inquiries would be rich data harvest material with immediate resale value.

Sorry, you missed the domain you wanted, but I bet you might be doing things differently next time.

I totally agree. Domain buying is a multi million dollar business. Do you really think these guys that own registries make most of their money from helping people register an $8.99 domain? Don't trust any of em.

dcortez · 09-23-2006, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HairToStay

http://www.bobparsons.com/MayKiting.html

Wow, that's nuts! It's even worse than I assumed.

It's funny, how with all the 'sleaze' which goes on in mainstream (tobacco companies murdering children, domain thievery, govs using billions in taxes for wars based on blatent lies, churches protecting child moldesting priests), and it's still (legal) 'pornography' that gets the biggest bum rap.

Go figure..

Dagwolf · 09-23-2006, 11:26 PM

This happened to me with multiple domains searching whois.sc

It has NEVER happened to me using GoDaddy's domain search tools. I tested.

Marshal · 09-23-2006, 11:30 PM

i've experienced the same with whois.sc
avoid using them. try good old linux 'whois' command...

MacDevilish · 09-26-2006, 12:13 PM

I have also heard of this happening, and I don't know if it is a matter of information sharing or what. I DO know that I have a client or two that ICQ me if they have an idea for domain names that they want to register, just to make sure that it is completely processed.

I think it is always best to register a domain name when you see it and it is available. I encourage this because our (Moniker's) clients have the a 4 day "grace period" allowing them to delete the domain and get a refund to thier Moniker account (minus a small reprocessing fee).

I definitely feel for you on this one, JennyS!

borked · 09-26-2006, 02:06 PM

For Mac users, just use Network Utility to do all your whois lookups.
GFY squatting registrars

Libertine · 09-26-2006, 02:12 PM

I googled you

Juilan · 09-26-2006, 02:15 PM

Domain tasting should be outlawed

vvq · 09-26-2006, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gillespie

Use godaddy to check on names, then use your registrar of choice to register. Godaddy uses SSL, which provides more security. Plus, they don't register good finds.

There was an article on Digg a while ago involving this type of thing and CNET.

GoDaddy sells the information as well. I've searched for domains on GoDaddy and when i went to register them a couple days later they are taken.

Gillespie · 09-26-2006, 02:19 PM

Never happened to me, and I've used it for quite some time. Maybe my domains suck. Lol

Roald · 09-26-2006, 02:21 PM

Lesson learned; register right away and don't wait a day or so, $8 for a domain shouldn't hold you back rigth.

Jenny S. · 09-26-2006, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaShe

Lesson learned; register right away and don't wait a day or so, $8 for a domain shouldn't hold you back rigth.

I learned my lesson, it's still amazing how sneaky this shit is.

And I thought I knew everything....

Roald · 09-26-2006, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenny S.

I learned my lesson, it's still amazing how sneaky this shit is.

And I thought I knew everything....

I knew this as I heard about it before. I ended up with a dozen of worthless domains after some drunk domain registering lol

09-23-2006, 10:25 AM	#1
Jenny S. Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Europe and SE US Posts: 582	Domain Snatched yesterday-Un fucking believable! Last night I wanted to register the domain "oldhodog" for a friend who hubby and I help out with a page. I "directnicked" it and also checked the availability with the server company. Full of joy that the domain was still available I went to bed because it was getting late. This morning I tried to register it. Guess what? Gone! Someone else registered it last night Domain Name: oldhodog.com ICANN Registrar: NAMEKING.COM, INC. Created: 22-Sep-2006 Expires: 22-Sep-2007 Registrar Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK Whois Server: whois.nameking.com Name Server: NS11.MALTUZI.COM I don't know what the fuck is going on, but I can only advidse all fellow webmasters to register a domain right when you check its availability because I smell a fucking rat. Something is fishy here. Somebody must have gotten his hands on my query last night and registerd the domain right away. No big loss here, we are very creative when it comes to domain names. It sitll sucks because there is something going on. My hsuband also remembered talking to a dude in Vegas two years ago who said he checked a domain from work and when he came back home 12 hours later to register it, it was gone. __________________ Jenny Seemore Pornography is the bloody gladiator who stands guard over the First Amendment Last edited by Jenny S.; 09-23-2006 at 10:27 AM..

09-23-2006, 10:28 AM	#2
Halcyon Spread The Pink! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: TrampStampStudios.com Posts: 8,609	that SUCKS. I've heard of people having a form of spyware that might be involved in broadcasting a domain inquiry. I grabbed a few names last night. Now I'm glad I did! __________________ HAL on TEDx:

09-23-2006, 10:29 AM	#3
dullspace Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 131	Hey, I don't have time to explain the details of how / why this happened, but it's because of some outdated ICANN rules that allow registrars to chill on a name for 5 days for free. Wait a week and your domain will be availible again. Also, I would advise you edit your post so no one here acts like a douchebag and registers it in 5 days for real-real. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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09-23-2006, 10:36 AM	#6
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	thats strange indeed

09-23-2006, 10:49 AM	#8
dcortez DINO CORTEZ™ Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 2,145	Are you really surpised? It makes perfect sense that inquiries would be rich data harvest material with immediate resale value. Sorry, you missed the domain you wanted, but I bet you might be doing things differently next time.

09-23-2006, 10:50 AM	#9
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fallenmuffin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,170	Damn, that sucks. That's happened to me a few times. Now, I register a domain everytime I think up one and I'm stuck with too many domains!

09-23-2006, 10:57 AM	#12
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09-23-2006, 11:20 AM	#13
Serge Litehead Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Behind the scenes Posts: 5,190	i wouldn't "directnick" a domain or for that matter use any other third party registrars for whois. if you're on unix it's even easier to use builtin whois to check domains and safer too. __________________ SilverCrocodile.com Adult web design since '05

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09-23-2006, 04:31 PM	#25
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	I've had two domains snatched and then they were available again a few days later. Both times I had used whois.sc to initially check for them. ICANN needs to do something about domainers and bottom feeders looking for old traffic domains.

09-23-2006, 04:35 PM	#26
Jenny S. Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Europe and SE US Posts: 582	As far as I can see this applies to random domains or domains that are close to well know domains. What I want to know is how a query like mine at directnic gets out to the domian snatchers within hours? What scumbag company is that? __________________ Jenny Seemore Pornography is the bloody gladiator who stands guard over the First Amendment

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MacDevilish Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pompano Beach Florida Posts: 243	I have also heard of this happening, and I don't know if it is a matter of information sharing or what. I DO know that I have a client or two that ICQ me if they have an idea for domain names that they want to register, just to make sure that it is completely processed. I think it is always best to register a domain name when you see it and it is available. I encourage this because our (Moniker's) clients have the a 4 day "grace period" allowing them to delete the domain and get a refund to thier Moniker account (minus a small reprocessing fee). I definitely feel for you on this one, JennyS! __________________ Another of the Mighty Moniker Execs... ICQ:210870714 ...[email protected] ...Give me a yell if you have questions on domain names!!

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