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Old 09-26-2006, 09:53 PM   #51
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Old 09-26-2006, 11:03 PM   #52
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The reason for the 2nd page or join page counts is because too many people care about what conversion ratio they have instead of how much $$$ they make.
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Old 09-27-2006, 01:30 AM   #53
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Bump because business threads are getting scarce.

First off let me agree w/others in this thread that the numbers you are playing with are too small to draw conclusions.

Second - I think as a newb to the business you are doing something VERY right. You are methodically testing, tweaking and most importantly getting to understand the numbers.

You will soon find that you are swimming upstream sending purchased traffic to sponsors, the reason its so cheap is because - well - quite honestly its not really worth anything execept growing trades.

Might i suggest giving your affinity with testing and tracking that you purchase SE traffic and send those pages to high converting landing pages. do *NOT* send that traffic to tgps or FHG's. Your skill sets bode well to making a killing with targeted traffic. It takes an analyitical approach.

You WILL loose some money in the begining so start small, but as you learn the ropes and develop some intuition you are well positioned to make some serious coin.

Dont even fuck around w/tgps imho. Its a volume game. You arent dealing in volume and the variables with targeted SE traffic are much easier to quantify than your current approach to the industry.

Good luck and welcome to the game.
Great answer! Thanks!

By purchasing SE traffic you mean buy top results for specific keywords? Isn't that a little too expensive for a noob? I made some calculations with Yahoo a while ago and it came out to burning $50 every day or so.

I'm ranking failry good in Google for specific solo girl keywords and it sends me like 200 people a day, but so far I've made little money off it, even though I do everything manually. Hell, it takes me 30-45 minutes to write up a single post.
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Old 09-27-2006, 01:33 AM   #54
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i guess it was a good read...
but next time try making a 10k+ test. 1k of bought traffic is worth like 100 or less se traffic, ive had 200k hits(not bought) to one of my galleries of new content and didnt get one sale plenty a times. Your next 50 bucks imo should be going to maybe getting your site on some high pr links, but thats just me.

Im in the same boat as you, im brand new to the adult biz but thankfully i have one friend who helps me out when i need it
10K is practically USD 50, for HQ traffic. I think it's too risky to do that considering there are plenty of cases like yours, where you don't convert at all. Unless you can make like five sales in the next 10K purchase, you're losing money and bandwidth.
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Old 09-27-2006, 01:36 AM   #55
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The reason for the 2nd page or join page counts is because too many people care about what conversion ratio they have instead of how much $$$ they make.
Well, knowing the hit:secondpage ratio would be useful too. In fact, any information you can get is useful.
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Old 09-28-2006, 01:46 AM   #56
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These fucking IDIOTS will tell you that you didn't buy enough to get a meaningful result. Plow in another $100 and get 0 sales. Sounds good?

The truth is that this traffic is not gonna produce sales. Its purpose is solely to be crapfed to your "trade partners" who will hopefully send you back traffic which is gonna buy. It exposes the moral problem of traffic trading. Everybody is trying to fuck over his "partner" with crap traffic and hoping to get good traffic back. It's a fucked up game. This traffic is basically for trading (cheating) your trade partners.
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Old 09-28-2006, 02:17 AM   #57
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Old 09-28-2006, 08:51 AM   #58
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Old 09-28-2006, 09:00 AM   #59
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Gotta love it when smartie-pants kid comes in, thinks he has the whole business figured out, and then falls on his face.

Err.. GFY has made me cynical... I meant to say - Way to go n00b! Keep trying and some day you'll be a millionaire. Remember: Success is a function of your GFY post count - more posts = more bling.
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Old 09-28-2006, 09:07 AM   #60
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Well, knowing the hit:secondpage ratio would be useful too. In fact, any information you can get is useful.
This is a business of "hacks"... you'll rarely gets stats that are usefull.. and the reality is that it just doesn't matter... It's all about volume and money.. dicking around with 1000 hits won't show you anything at all... Spend your time figuring out how to get 100s of thousands of hits to your pages and then which sponsor makes you the most money off that.
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Old 09-28-2006, 09:19 AM   #61
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Gotta love it when smartie-pants kid comes in, thinks he has the whole business figured out, and then falls on his face.

Err.. GFY has made me cynical... I meant to say - Way to go n00b! Keep trying and some day you'll be a millionaire. Remember: Success is a function of your GFY post count - more posts = more bling.
The fist part of your post has no fundament. Read the second parragraph of my first post. You're no noob, cynical or not, I shouldn't be telling you this.

I'm not looking to be a millionaire, I just want gas money and if things go extremely well, pay for my IFR pilot's license, but that's it. My day job pays me enough for the rest of the things I need.

The second part of your post seems to be accurate, but that's the way it works on most forums. It's a sad way to establish reputation though.
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Old 09-28-2006, 09:28 AM   #62
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What were you expecting from 1000 feeder traffic to your TGPs?

That's just too little.
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Old 09-28-2006, 10:30 AM   #63
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These fucking IDIOTS will tell you that you didn't buy enough to get a meaningful result. Plow in another $100 and get 0 sales. Sounds good?

The truth is that this traffic is not gonna produce sales. Its purpose is solely to be crapfed to your "trade partners" who will hopefully send you back traffic which is gonna buy. It exposes the moral problem of traffic trading. Everybody is trying to fuck over his "partner" with crap traffic and hoping to get good traffic back. It's a fucked up game. This traffic is basically for trading (cheating) your trade partners.

Sadly these days that is all too true and just another example of how this biz maliciously feeds on itself as it continues it's inexorable journey towards zero.
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Old 09-28-2006, 11:21 AM   #64
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The fist part of your post has no fundament. Read the second parragraph of my first post. You're no noob, cynical or not, I

the second part of your post seems to be accurate, but that's the way it works on most forums. It's a sad way to establish reputation though.
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Old 09-28-2006, 11:24 AM   #65
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Sadly these days that is all too true and just another example of how this biz maliciously feeds on itself as it continues it's inexorable journey towards zero.
Your statement is true - but only when applied to the proper industry. If the industry you were referring to was the one where any tom-dick-or harry throws up a few TGPs, signs up to 2 affiliate programs and then buys $100 worth of traffic and laments in his lack of ROI - then ya, you hit the nail on the head.
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Old 09-28-2006, 11:35 AM   #66
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1000 hits is not enough to truly measure the quality of a traffic purchase... you need to waste more $ to reliably conclude that it's complete shit.
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