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gfx3 · 09-22-2006, 01:53 PM

Been doing a lot of cursing this afternoon, probably worse than Jimthefiend's cursing when he has a bad day.
2 months ago I bought a new pc, all quality parts with a 200 gig maxtor harddisk. Superfast computer, everything running smooth. This afternoon after about 2 hours I get a nice blue screen c0000218 unknown hard error and I hear a tick sound about every 2 seconds from inside the pc case.
I opened it to see if there wasn't a wire ticking to a fan or anything but no, further investigation showed the sound comes from the harddrive.

When I try to reboot I get my pentium start up screen but at the point I should see my desktop screen the ticking starts and the pc keeps hanging, after a while it starts asking for a boot disk etc...

A little google search showed that my HD is about to crash any moment so I hope the pc guys will be able to transfer the data to a new disk. Otherwise I know what to do in the week to come.

Damn maxtor garbage

gangbangjoe · 09-22-2006, 01:54 PM

maxtorowned

Jace · 09-22-2006, 01:55 PM

I had that same thing happen last month

pull your drive, put it into a external case and save your shit...like right now

mine lasted about a week after it started doing that

squishypimp · 09-22-2006, 01:56 PM

get seagate, its the best.

webcrawler · 09-22-2006, 02:00 PM

Never trust a maxtor.

ronaldo · 09-22-2006, 02:03 PM

I've had a ton of people tell me 1 in 10 hd's will be toast within 3 months, and from my experience, that's pretty right on. Not that it helps any, but odds are the next one you put in will work fine.

arial · 09-22-2006, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squishypimp

get seagate, its the best.

I second that.

Hunter_ST · 09-22-2006, 02:13 PM

i third that...

Dragar · 09-22-2006, 02:14 PM

every maxor I have used crashed big time

Sosa · 09-22-2006, 02:15 PM

maxtor drives are the worst

born4porn · 09-22-2006, 02:16 PM

I have been using a 300 gig external maxtor for about 6 months now with no problems!

gfx3 · 09-22-2006, 02:17 PM

I had a maxtor in my first pc (I'm on my old pc now, won't take the risk of starting the other one up again) never had a problem with it over a period of 7 years and you wouldn't believe what I have done with this computer with it's tiny 4 gb drive. I'm gonne take my new pc straight to the computer guy in the morning and let him take care of it to transfer all the data to a new disk.
I'm also thinking of putting a new 200 gb maxtor in it since my first maxtor worked flawless for over 7 years.

GrouchyAdmin · 09-22-2006, 02:20 PM

Maxtor was the first drive I bought. It was a 365MB. It ran for over 10 years.. actually, it probably is still running.

I've had two Maxtors go bad, and that includes the $80 Fry's rewrap specials. I've had 5 Seagates, 3 Wester Digitals and 15 fucking Hitachis tank. Never another goddamned Hitachi.

ry0t · 09-22-2006, 02:27 PM

Yeah unfortunately you just got a bad harddrive. I know because this happened to me last week.

iwantchixx · 09-22-2006, 02:34 PM

all hard drives are the same.

You just failed to maintain it.

Gillespie · 09-22-2006, 02:40 PM

I neved had a problem with Maxtor drives. In fact, I trusted one as the sole storage for over 80 GBs of Mp3s and it even survived two of the times I moved from country to country (one via sea freight). The only reason I changed it is because I needed more space.

Anyway, hard drives will fail, that's 100% sure. The question is when will they fail...

gfx3 · 09-22-2006, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ry0t

Yeah unfortunately you just got a bad harddrive. I know because this happened to me last week.

I just read an article last week about the harddrive turning 50 years. Can't believe they aren't able to make these things more stable by now.

Antonio · 09-22-2006, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronaldo

I've had a ton of people tell me 1 in 10 hd's will be toast within 3 months, and from my experience, that's pretty right on. Not that it helps any, but odds are the next one you put in will work fine.

nah, your HD should be ok for at least 2 years, after that you can begin to worry, ot you should do your back-ups more often

Furious_Male · 09-22-2006, 03:14 PM

I lost 3 maxtor hard drives in a 1 month period out of 2 separate offices (elimating the chance that it was just a power surge etc.) last year.

I will never purchase that brand again.

woj · 09-22-2006, 03:52 PM

now a days I think they are sacrificing quality for additional diskspace... in the past 2 years, have had 2 HDs fail on me, 10 years before that: 0

markyman · 09-22-2006, 03:58 PM

I got a 320GB Seagate SATA perpendicular recording 5 Year warranty $94, and it be smokin fast at newegg.com

chaze · 09-22-2006, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markyman

I got a 320GB Seagate SATA perpendicular recording 5 Year warranty $94, and it be smokin fast at newegg.com

Those are great drives, the maxtor III is pretty good as well.

Dennis69 · 09-22-2006, 04:09 PM

I had a Maxtor crash on me a couple of days ago and now the other one is starting to getting noisey as well

notabook · 09-22-2006, 04:16 PM

For the last time MAXTOR DRIVES SUCK ASS! I went pruning through all my old hard drives (sub 20GB) and I had six drives that were dead, all of them were Maxtor! The rest were fine? fucking Maxtor hard drives are shitty as hell. The best hard drives atm are Hitachi, they were really shitty in the early 2k?s, but now they are rock solid. I?d recommend Hitachi or Seagate to be your main storage drives ? for your system disk use whatever you want as long as you keep a backup.

dakota1358 · 09-22-2006, 04:21 PM

I've had some maxtors fail and a seagate fail.If its going to go doesn't matter what company made it,it will fail

notabook · 09-22-2006, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dakota1358

I've had some maxtors fail and a seagate fail.If its going to go doesn't matter what company made it,it will fail

I?ve owned dozens of hard drives over the year and what you say is partially true ? there are some bad bunches from time to time from all manufacturers. I?ve owned 12 Maxtor drives give or take, and 6 of them have died. That?s ½ of Maxtor Hard Drives that die within a three year period. I have ancient 200mb Western Digital hard drives that are STILL ALIVE and still have data on them. I have 500mb Seagate drives, same thing.

The only hard drives that used to be able to compete with them in terms of shittiness were IBM deskstar drives, the ones from around 2k0-2k2. When Hitachi started doing IBM?s HD?s, they totally turned around and now since about 2k3 the Hitachi drives are rock solid. I?ve yet to have a Hitachi fail even though I put them through the same amount of stress that all my HD?s go through. Seagate is a close second in reliability.

Jace · 09-22-2006, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj

now a days I think they are sacrificing quality for additional diskspace... in the past 2 years, have had 2 HDs fail on me, 10 years before that: 0

i really think you are right man, I have had more hard drives fail in the last 2 years than I have my whole life...hell, I have some that are still spinning from when I was 20 years old, now I buy a new one, I am lucky it lasts 2 years

HorseShit · 09-22-2006, 07:00 PM

maxtor drives are the worst.. why do you think most of them come with a 1 year warranty and seagates a fucking 5? maxtor was a decent company BEFORE they bought quantum, now they suck cock

Spunky · 09-22-2006, 07:07 PM

My Maxtors have been running fine for the past 6 years..no problems..yet

madawgz · 09-22-2006, 07:13 PM

maxtor drives really suck balls

MikeB · 09-22-2006, 07:16 PM

for all of those saying go maxtor vs. Seagate, Seagate recently bought Maxtor out.

Here's my recent experience. I have about 1TB in Maxtor drives, most of them external. I got a 500GB internal SATA drive. It started giving me cyclical redundancy errors, so I copied all video files off the drive on to the other ones. I only lost one audio file that was not an original, was only an intermediate file so no major loss.

I ran the diagnostic, it said the drive is failing and to send it in for warranty replacement. I sent it in. I did the Advance RMA and got my replacement drive yesterday. I go to hook it up, and the plastic mold surrounding the SATA pins is busted off - can't hook it up, so today I returned my refurbished RMA replacement for another.

I'm just glad I was able to get all but one of the files off the original drive before it failed. Sucks that the replacement drive was bad. Hopefully the 3rd time is the charm.

But for those thinking seagate or maxtor is going to be better than one another, soon they will be the same.

Mike

DutchTeenCash · 09-22-2006, 07:18 PM

fucking sucks

still I gotta say maxtors have been good for me

*knock on wood*

Phil21 · 09-22-2006, 07:30 PM

Maxtor was bought out by Seagate about a year ago...

Anyways, over time more or less all hard drive model lines will be nearly identical in failure rate. Granted, it "seems" I've had more WD's die than others, however that simply isn't born out in actual facts.

We run somewhere around 8,000 or so spindles (disks) in my estimate in the datacenter. Failure rate across the board is pretty standard, I can't say any one model, manuf, etc. are "worse" than others. Buy drives based on your needs, not percieved "reliability" as it simply does not exist (closest you'll come is looking at MTBF and rating for 24x7 operation).

Also, you've found out that if a drive is going to go due to manuf. defect, it likely will go within the first 3 weeks of operation

Heavily hitting disk of course greatly shortens it's life as well (customers whom hit single SATA drives 24x7 at near-max capacity see failures 10 times more than folks with properly specced out machines).

In the end, treat hard drives as disposable units that are expected to fail at any time. They are very complex mechanical parts that require extreme tolerances to operate at all. Any number of factors (e.g. a spec of dust between the head and the disk) can completely trash a disk.

Lesson learned should be: backup. backup. backup. backup. Then, backup again. After that, if you don't like the length of time it takes to restore data due to a drive failure, invest in RAID for availability (RAID IS NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR BACKUPS!!!)

-Phil

Dagwolf · 09-22-2006, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil21

In the end, treat hard drives as disposable units that are expected to fail at any time. They are very complex mechanical parts that require extreme tolerances to operate at all. Any number of factors (e.g. a spec of dust between the head and the disk) can completely trash a disk.

Lesson learned should be: backup. backup. backup. backup. Then, backup again. After that, if you don't like the length of time it takes to restore data due to a drive failure, invest in RAID for availability (RAID IS NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR BACKUPS!!!)

-Phil

Won't denying reality make my hard drives last longer? I find that if I pretend my hard drives will last forever, I no longer worry. Then, when they do fail, I try to forget about it immediately.

This gives me a sense of comfort and continuity that backups never could.

rowan · 09-22-2006, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronaldo

I've had a ton of people tell me 1 in 10 hd's will be toast within 3 months, and from my experience, that's pretty right on. Not that it helps any, but odds are the next one you put in will work fine.

I purchased 3 Seagate SATA drives last year - one was completely dead, the other started reporting S.M.A.R.T. errors within 24 hours. Two thirds of the set was trash, not really the best when you're setting up RAID5!

Got them both replaced and they haven't skipped a beat since. They're now in a RAID1+0 array with another Seagate SATA.

gecko · 09-22-2006, 09:08 PM

I had a few maxtors die on my in the past.. seagate all the way

pornguy · 09-22-2006, 09:12 PM

Maxtor used to make good stuff.

Vitasoy · 09-22-2006, 11:46 PM

I only use seagates.. I had a fair share of maxtors crash on me

SmokeyTheBear · 09-22-2006, 11:51 PM

you know whats fucked up is it seems hardware is getting worse ..

i have hard drives 10 years old that work perfectly fine.. cpu' and video cards and all. but of all the recent computers i have bought i have like 1/10 failure rate within 2 years .. terrible..

KRL · 09-22-2006, 11:54 PM

I'm only buying Seagates now. Used to like WD's but had 3 go south. Seagates are recognized as being the most reliable.

One of the reason so many HD's are sucking wind now is because many mfr's are doing the assembly in cheaper labor factories in China. In the past they were being done in Singapore where the workers were way better skilled.

martinsc · 09-22-2006, 11:55 PM

yeah, hdd's tend to give us a hard time...

rowan · 09-23-2006, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

I'm only buying Seagates now. Used to like WD's but had 3 go south. Seagates are recognized as being the most reliable.

One of the reason so many HD's are sucking wind now is because many mfr's are doing the assembly in cheaper labor factories in China. In the past they were being done in Singapore where the workers were way better skilled.

The 4 Seagate HDs I'm using in my RAID 1+0 system were manufactured in 3 different factories. This is deliberate... I'd make it 4 factories if they had them.

Mr. Mojo Risin · 09-23-2006, 06:46 AM

I just rebooted and got a SMART error. One of my Maxtor drives is bad ;( It's less than 2 years old. Hopefully it's still under warranty. Fuck Maxtor. Quality sucks.

justsexxx · 09-23-2006, 06:52 AM

Ouch, I had the same with my IBM deskstar a few years ago...2 of them crashed...I was on time tho with saving the data

gooddomains · 09-23-2006, 07:52 AM

maxtor is as good as all other 3 harddrive makers

Sore · 09-23-2006, 07:56 AM

Maxtors are shit. They fail the most out of all hardrives I've used.

buy RE or SE drives(depending on the brand). You'll pay more but they're higher quality

tony286 · 09-23-2006, 07:57 AM

this is why Im a western digital man

Moraxian · 09-23-2006, 08:01 AM

I prefer WD, although Seagate is pretty good too.

If your machine is still under warranty, you should be able to get the drive replaced and get your stuff of the other drive. What you need for the shop to do is put in your new drive with Windows, and put your old drive in as a second drive. Then once it's in, they should be able to copy your data over.

I always make sure I have backups of all of my content on CD/DVD. Since my hard drive has a duplicate copy of my webserver, that's pretty safe (although I routinely back up my websites to DVDs as well.

gfx3 · 09-24-2006, 02:23 PM

Ok it's Sunday night here, crash happened Friday afternoon. Yesterday I bought a new HD, the exact same one that crashed, I spoke with several pc guys over the phone and all of them told me it doesn't make a difference what drive you are using, around 4% of all new hard disks just crash within the first 3 months. 16 hours of labour went into this.
In the store they told me that it could be possible to have the data transferred from the bad HD to the new one but since I was able to replace everything by myself I just went for that. I'm going to burn every single prog on cd from now on.

chaze · 09-24-2006, 02:27 PM

Seagate has stepped ahead:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148140

But if you can spend more then check this out:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136012

09-22-2006, 01:53 PM	#1
gfx3 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,685	Just great a brand new ticking harddrive from maxtor Been doing a lot of cursing this afternoon, probably worse than Jimthefiend's cursing when he has a bad day. 2 months ago I bought a new pc, all quality parts with a 200 gig maxtor harddisk. Superfast computer, everything running smooth. This afternoon after about 2 hours I get a nice blue screen c0000218 unknown hard error and I hear a tick sound about every 2 seconds from inside the pc case. I opened it to see if there wasn't a wire ticking to a fan or anything but no, further investigation showed the sound comes from the harddrive. When I try to reboot I get my pentium start up screen but at the point I should see my desktop screen the ticking starts and the pc keeps hanging, after a while it starts asking for a boot disk etc... A little google search showed that my HD is about to crash any moment so I hope the pc guys will be able to transfer the data to a new disk. Otherwise I know what to do in the week to come. Damn maxtor garbage __________________

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09-22-2006, 01:56 PM	#4
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Dragar Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,079	every maxor I have used crashed big time __________________

09-22-2006, 01:55 PM	#3
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	I had that same thing happen last month pull your drive, put it into a external case and save your shit...like right now mine lasted about a week after it started doing that

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ronaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ICQ#: 272000271 Posts: 5,475	I've had a ton of people tell me 1 in 10 hd's will be toast within 3 months, and from my experience, that's pretty right on. Not that it helps any, but odds are the next one you put in will work fine.

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09-22-2006, 02:16 PM	#11
born4porn FUKM ALL! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: somewhere wet n sticky - Sydney Posts: 38,781	I have been using a 300 gig external maxtor for about 6 months now with no problems!

09-22-2006, 02:17 PM	#12
gfx3 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,685	I had a maxtor in my first pc (I'm on my old pc now, won't take the risk of starting the other one up again) never had a problem with it over a period of 7 years and you wouldn't believe what I have done with this computer with it's tiny 4 gb drive. I'm gonne take my new pc straight to the computer guy in the morning and let him take care of it to transfer all the data to a new disk. I'm also thinking of putting a new 200 gb maxtor in it since my first maxtor worked flawless for over 7 years. __________________

09-22-2006, 02:20 PM	#13
GrouchyAdmin Now choke yourself! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 12,085	Maxtor was the first drive I bought. It was a 365MB. It ran for over 10 years.. actually, it probably is still running. I've had two Maxtors go bad, and that includes the $80 Fry's rewrap specials. I've had 5 Seagates, 3 Wester Digitals and 15 fucking Hitachis tank. Never another goddamned Hitachi. __________________ AIM: GrouchyGfy

09-22-2006, 02:27 PM	#14
ry0t So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 4,160	Yeah unfortunately you just got a bad harddrive. I know because this happened to me last week.

09-22-2006, 02:34 PM	#15
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Gillespie Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montevideo Posts: 1,391	I neved had a problem with Maxtor drives. In fact, I trusted one as the sole storage for over 80 GBs of Mp3s and it even survived two of the times I moved from country to country (one via sea freight). The only reason I changed it is because I needed more space. Anyway, hard drives will fail, that's 100% sure. The question is when will they fail... __________________ Blue Design Studios My choice for web design. Click this to see why. Get a REAL host. Try JaguarPC. 294-659-259

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09-22-2006, 04:16 PM	#24
notabook Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Not a Library! Posts: 9,748	For the last time MAXTOR DRIVES SUCK ASS! I went pruning through all my old hard drives (sub 20GB) and I had six drives that were dead, all of them were Maxtor! The rest were fine? fucking Maxtor hard drives are shitty as hell. The best hard drives atm are Hitachi, they were really shitty in the early 2k?s, but now they are rock solid. I?d recommend Hitachi or Seagate to be your main storage drives ? for your system disk use whatever you want as long as you keep a backup. __________________

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HorseShit Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,513	maxtor drives are the worst.. why do you think most of them come with a 1 year warranty and seagates a fucking 5? maxtor was a decent company BEFORE they bought quantum, now they suck cock

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09-22-2006, 07:13 PM	#30
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09-22-2006, 07:16 PM	#31
MikeB Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012	for all of those saying go maxtor vs. Seagate, Seagate recently bought Maxtor out. Here's my recent experience. I have about 1TB in Maxtor drives, most of them external. I got a 500GB internal SATA drive. It started giving me cyclical redundancy errors, so I copied all video files off the drive on to the other ones. I only lost one audio file that was not an original, was only an intermediate file so no major loss. I ran the diagnostic, it said the drive is failing and to send it in for warranty replacement. I sent it in. I did the Advance RMA and got my replacement drive yesterday. I go to hook it up, and the plastic mold surrounding the SATA pins is busted off - can't hook it up, so today I returned my refurbished RMA replacement for another. I'm just glad I was able to get all but one of the files off the original drive before it failed. Sucks that the replacement drive was bad. Hopefully the 3rd time is the charm. But for those thinking seagate or maxtor is going to be better than one another, soon they will be the same. Mike

09-22-2006, 07:18 PM	#32
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09-22-2006, 07:30 PM	#33
Phil21 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ICQ: 25285313 Posts: 993	Maxtor was bought out by Seagate about a year ago... Anyways, over time more or less all hard drive model lines will be nearly identical in failure rate. Granted, it "seems" I've had more WD's die than others, however that simply isn't born out in actual facts. We run somewhere around 8,000 or so spindles (disks) in my estimate in the datacenter. Failure rate across the board is pretty standard, I can't say any one model, manuf, etc. are "worse" than others. Buy drives based on your needs, not percieved "reliability" as it simply does not exist (closest you'll come is looking at MTBF and rating for 24x7 operation). Also, you've found out that if a drive is going to go due to manuf. defect, it likely will go within the first 3 weeks of operation Heavily hitting disk of course greatly shortens it's life as well (customers whom hit single SATA drives 24x7 at near-max capacity see failures 10 times more than folks with properly specced out machines). In the end, treat hard drives as disposable units that are expected to fail at any time. They are very complex mechanical parts that require extreme tolerances to operate at all. Any number of factors (e.g. a spec of dust between the head and the disk) can completely trash a disk. Lesson learned should be: backup. backup. backup. backup. Then, backup again. After that, if you don't like the length of time it takes to restore data due to a drive failure, invest in RAID for availability (RAID IS NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR BACKUPS!!!) -Phil __________________ Quality affordable hosting.

09-22-2006, 09:08 PM	#36
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09-22-2006, 11:54 PM	#40
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	I'm only buying Seagates now. Used to like WD's but had 3 go south. Seagates are recognized as being the most reliable. One of the reason so many HD's are sucking wind now is because many mfr's are doing the assembly in cheaper labor factories in China. In the past they were being done in Singapore where the workers were way better skilled. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

09-22-2006, 11:55 PM	#41
martinsc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 27,047	yeah, hdd's tend to give us a hard time... __________________ Make Money

09-23-2006, 06:46 AM	#43
Mr. Mojo Risin Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In the middle of nowhere Posts: 1,886	I just rebooted and got a SMART error. One of my Maxtor drives is bad ;( It's less than 2 years old. Hopefully it's still under warranty. Fuck Maxtor. Quality sucks.

09-23-2006, 06:52 AM	#44
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	Ouch, I had the same with my IBM deskstar a few years ago...2 of them crashed...I was on time tho with saving the data __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542