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Old 06-26-2002, 12:15 PM   #51
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Steve please remeber that Muslim as religion is the biggest in the world and its only in "some states" that teach kids to fights for
And they choice "suecid mombers" same way as the New nazi and Arian nation and other groups..they targeting week people that often have been hurted..... Its easy to make a racist of a white boy that have been robbed many times... or make a Palestian teenage boy give his life for the holy war if he have seen what isreals have done his people..

jihad the holy war.... And it is a reason why they fights ...they are tired ......
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Old 06-26-2002, 12:15 PM   #52
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E-van thank you !!!!!! Yes! meybee some hope for this world anyway! I send you all my bellsings to you from me

You know what you talking about thanks... I am not alone in the world to understand the situation of people that is hunted and
Did you read E-van's post?

resistance attack military targets

terrorists attack civilians

What do Palestinians do? Suicide bombers in public areas, lob mortars at Israli farms down the hill.

Palestinains are terrorists, and get little, or no, sympathy. Stop blowing up people waiting for a fucking bus, and then the world will feel bad when the Israli army bulldozes a town. Right now, many think it is a good start.
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Old 06-26-2002, 12:16 PM   #53
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anyways it's getting boring...i'll try not to give some ppl the attention that they are looking for...

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Old 06-26-2002, 12:19 PM   #54
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The opressed people way to fight is called resistence, look at France during WWII
dude, france is a bad example.
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Old 06-26-2002, 12:19 PM   #55
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Palestians are not terrorist its some groups there that uses this method..belive me many people are against this.. And Isreal using State terrorism as metod...

If you say Palestians is terrorist then North Irland is a terrorist country.... also then? dont say all..thats a bad word... its a smal group of people..that you read in tv and papers..thats not thousends of bombers or terrorist its a few people that everyone reads about...Only what i think...
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Old 06-26-2002, 12:20 PM   #56
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jihad the holy war.... And it is a reason why they fights ...they are tired ......
Western culture seperates church from state. We see war as an end to politacal and econimic needs. So a Jihad/Holy War is against our beliefs. You don't see the Pope trying to whip up a Christian force to eradicate Muslims from the Middle East. Bush did not play on religion when he went after the Al Queda.

Palestine was offered land in a peace treaty. Arafat refused!
If the Palestinians won't be satisfied until all the Jews are dead, they should prepare to be disappointed.
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Old 06-26-2002, 12:24 PM   #57
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Well...i dont know if i shuld accept a peace treath if Isreal had made a state in my country and took land...I can feel the pain of both sites but this war will continue to be told in generations.....all people that is alive now today..is dead 2200 .... i am sure it will be same problem there ...its not easy to get a people that have been treathed very bad to accept a peace...
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Old 06-26-2002, 12:26 PM   #58
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Did you read E-van's post?

resistance attack military targets

terrorists attack civilians

What do Palestinians do? Suicide bombers in public areas, lob mortars at Israli farms down the hill.

Palestinains are terrorists, and get little, or no, sympathy. Stop blowing up people waiting for a fucking bus, and then the world will feel bad when the Israli army bulldozes a town. Right now, many think it is a good start.


Sorry Milton, Steve is right, I was not supporting your cause...


12clicks, hmmm, France... damn

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Old 06-26-2002, 12:27 PM   #59
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Learn some basic history there was no country EVER called palestine it belonged to the Turks and then Jordanians.

There where no Palestinians either until the British chose to call that the Arabs that lived there. Its amazing how ignorant some people are
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Old 06-26-2002, 12:29 PM   #60
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GOD BLESS THE FREE WORLD
and plz build some hospitals for the mentaly ill...
let me know how it works out
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Old 06-26-2002, 12:31 PM   #61
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Well...i dont know if i shuld accept a peace treath if Isreal had made a state in my country and took land...I can feel the pain of both sites but this war will continue to be told in generations.....all people that is alive now today..is dead 2200 .... i am sure it will be same problem there ...its not easy to get a people that have been treathed very bad to accept a peace...
treathed?

Actually Palestinians living in Israel have more rights than any other Arabs living in the Middle East.
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Old 06-26-2002, 12:38 PM   #62
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"The opressed people way to fight is called resistence, look at France during WWII"

... you crack me up, most of the french welcomed the nazis with open arms ... or please explain to me how the nazis invaded paris without a single shot fired. itīs a not so nice part of your history, and I can understand that people today love to say that their country showed full resistance ... but unfortunatly it wasnīt that way ... things first changed when the US moved in, before that most european countries (excluding UK) didnīt do anything.
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Old 06-26-2002, 12:39 PM   #63
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Well...i dont know if i shuld accept a peace treath if Isreal had made a state in my country and took land...I can feel the pain of both sites but this war will continue to be told in generations.....all people that is alive now today..is dead 2200 .... i am sure it will be same problem there ...its not easy to get a people that have been treathed very bad to accept a peace...
What planet are you living on?

1947. The UN is going to setup two countries in the area. One for Jews, one for the Arabs who have no other place (Palestinians). The Arabs and the Palestinians threw a hissy fit because there was going to be a Jewish country. They wanted ALL the land, and they didn't want the Jews to have a country.

55 years later the Arabs have had their asses kicked multiple times trying to kill all the Jews, and the Palestinians are blowing up Israeli children.

The only reason the Palestinians are in their current predicament is because they may very well be the stupidest group of people ever alive on this planet. All their decisions and actions have led to their current status.

Stop trying to rewrite history and make the Palestinians victims. The only thing they're victims of is being stupid barbarians who can't act civilized.
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Old 06-26-2002, 12:40 PM   #64
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Milton you are french?
oh...in that case i forgive you...you poor thing...
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Old 06-26-2002, 12:47 PM   #65
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"The opressed people way to fight is called resistence, look at France during WWII"

... you crack me up, most of the french welcomed the nazis with open arms ... or please explain to me how the nazis invaded paris without a single shot fired. itīs a not so nice part of your history, and I can understand that people today love to say that their country showed full resistance ... but unfortunatly it wasnīt that way ... things first changed when the US moved in, before that most european countries (excluding UK) didnīt do anything.
I'm not arguing with you or anyone else on that point, you're right, french people welcomed the Nazi army until they got to be on the receiving end of Nazism, my point is that the French Resistence Movement did not attack german civilians, they fought against the army that was occupying their land.

Milton is trying to say that the Palestinian terrorist groups aren't really terrorist, they are liberty soldiers in his eyes.

I'm just trying to state the difference between real liberation movements and terrorist organizations...
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Old 06-26-2002, 12:51 PM   #66
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And your a dip shit moron if you think am a Racist...

Am a Racist because I don't feel sorry or loose sleep for those people.... You have a problem....
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So your claiming the US and Israel target innocent civilians?
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In the case of the USA, does Dresden, Nagasaki, Hiroshimo, ring a bell. In Korea and Vietnam we targeted civilians, as well, but not on the scale that we did during the Second World War.

War is a dirty affair. Civilians are as much an enemy as are Soldiers. It is civilians that provide the manpower, and the production required to fight and sustain a war.
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So your claiming the US and Israel target innocent civilians?
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In the case of the USA, does Dresden, Nagasaki, Hiroshimo, ring a bell. In Korea and Vietnam we targeted civilians, as well, but not on the scale that we did during the Second World War.

War is a dirty affair. Civilians are as much an enemy as are Soldiers. It is civilians that provide the manpower, and the production required to fight and sustain a war.
What does this have anything to do with this thread? btw wasnt dresden the British mostly
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-posted in another thread by a really smart person-

The savages of this world always claim that someone else is holding them down.
The jews and the arab scum live in the same desert. One has a thriving economy, one doesn't. There's a reason.
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" the difference between real liberation movements and terrorist organizations..."

beside the definition of terrorism, I would love to see jewish people living in respect and peace with palestinians, but I just have the feeling that this will never happen ... even Iīve been fighting with my next door neighbours for about 3 years, and if it continues like that itīs just a question of time until we start killing each others kids ...
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"In Korea and Vietnam we targeted civilians, as well, but not on the scale that we did during the Second World War."

... yes, and Henry A. Kissinger, whose intention never was to end that war received the peace nobelprice in 1973 ... itīs a wiered world we are living in.
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So did Arafat who basically founded modern terrorism in the 1970's
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looks like someone is trying to confuse a terrorist with a freedom fighter.

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http://abcnews.go.com/reference/bios/arafat.html

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http://www.idf.il/arafat/terrorism2/...main_index.stm

here is another source, documents captured in the recent Israeli that proves claims that Arafat is a terrorist
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