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|  09-22-2006, 02:13 AM | #1 | 
| SecretFriends.com Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2001 Location: IMC Headquarters 
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				Surfer rants about memberarea!
			 Some webmasters should really pay some more attention to their memberareas specially since this is a revshare sponsor ;))) Check what we got today! Lmk your opinion, ever get mails like this? Ditch the sponsor?....... -------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Freeones I've recently joined *beep* and encountered the biggest rip-off in the time I've been joining paysites.They are basically insulting their customers by having only 25 movies complete at 8 mins each but advertising that they have 140.In fact 110 of their movies are only part 1, just 2 mins per movie. When you've paid $39 to join a site you may not expect too much.But you don't expect them to have part 1 of 110 movies, leave you in expectation and say the rest is coming soon.This is disgraceful treatment to paying customers.Surely after that, they don't expect you to keep re-joining? It's crazy!! Are they mad? It is also terribly frustrating to download part 1 and the young lady doesn't even get to remove her bra yet.Worse still , the movies that made me join are on pages 2-7 where only part 1 is. Most sites I've joined have been more than value for money.In the last year, they've only added 9 movies!!!! Its gone from 131 to 140.Worse still,that decent amount of it, was not 131 movies at 8 mins as my membership stats now show.Total time for entire site is 440 mins. $39 for 7 hours content.Not great really when you consider there are no bonus sites etc with this.Many a small site in terms of mins disappoints but the bonus/network with them make up for it. Not so *beep*. We'll discount their "bonus" content which amounts to 20 x 1 min clips advertising their other websites which many paysites would give you anyway as a guest surfing through.Constant adverts per movie telling you to go to their ppv site and pay $7.99 per movie...movies from their individual paysites. What should be done about such fraudsters? CCbill etc I will inform plus other review sites of course. I've emailed them several times but they never reply. all the best chris 
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|  09-22-2006, 02:15 AM | #2 | 
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				 | damn, that sounds bad... 
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|  09-22-2006, 02:17 AM | #3 | 
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				 | Sounds like an awful host, but come on "Pissed off Chris"... if 440min of porn isn't enough, maybe you just need to admit that you want some with a bit more cock in it.    Reminds me of a pay toon site I've been hawking. Evidently the guy has a fuckton of custom pictures he draws, but he only does like two per week, and they all look the same. 
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|  09-22-2006, 02:20 AM | #4 | 
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				 | it seems what bothered the surfer was more of that fact that it was shit content, and not put together right. why would you want to watch 140 different clips =/ 
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|  09-22-2006, 02:20 AM | #5 | 
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				 | Yes, I know one of the bigger programs that does this.  The girls on the tour pages are not even in the members area.  So for example you see Tera Patrick on the tour page, you decide to join and when you enter she's nowhere to be found. You'd probably be upset. | 
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|  09-22-2006, 02:20 AM | #6 | 
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				 | Doesn't surprise me ONE BIT.  Most sites I've ever joined were a total rip off. Tons of exclusive content - movies coming out the walls - they promise everything and deliver SHIT on a platter. This of course is nothing new, it's the way alot of webmasters buy thier nice new ferrari's Ripping surfers off . 
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|  09-22-2006, 02:28 AM | #7 | |
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 Build up a reputation and it will be long time success.  | |
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|  09-22-2006, 02:31 AM | #8 | |
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|  09-22-2006, 02:53 AM | #9 | 
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				 | WOW! from the sound of it, yes I might consider ditching that sponsor, for a surfer to take the time to write that to YOU based on what it appears was a review on your site, I would also think seriously about who you have reviewing sites for you as well...no slam to you..great site and all..but seems someone might be skimming thru and not really doing a accurate job ( if I am mistaken about the review issue, sorry thats just how I read his email ) Really it seems he's most upset about the false representations made to him..obviously this is an experienced paysite member..and willing to pay for a premium priced paysite..also seems he's looking for a trusted review site to help him make his buying decisions. You might consider helping/guide him in seeking a refund for his trouble..the goodwill might pay off down the road as he is obviously willing to spend $ on paysites, and may buy thru your affiliate links in the future as well. just my  | 
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|  09-22-2006, 03:22 AM | #10 | 
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				 | I'm impressed a surfer took the time to even write. Sounds like that sponsor has gotten to fat and lazy. I know a lot of people have been complaining/mentioning about all the new programs being launched lately. I'm hoping the competition increases the quality and wakes up some of the bigger programs. If this sponsor isn't careful he might find his competition taking marketshare. Some of the younger programs are more hungry and building a better product. Something I'll be demonstrating very shortly. | 
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|  09-22-2006, 04:28 AM | #12 | 
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				 | I always thought it was a bad idea to split videos up into small clips PLUS not even give out the whole video... 
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|  09-22-2006, 04:33 AM | #13 | 
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				 | Not really a surprise.  I'm amazed at how many crappy members areas are out there.  I used to push a lot of revshare sponsors and have a great residual income from them, but I'm almost exclusively PPS because of how shitty members areas are. It seems people are looking more and more to just get guys to dish out their $30, spam the fuck out of them, upsell them to death, and let them cancel a week later to never be heard from again. Long gone are the days that sites would update regularly and try to keep long term members. | 
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|  09-22-2006, 05:15 AM | #14 | |
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|  09-22-2006, 05:16 AM | #15 | 
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				 | He sounds like the kind of guy you should talk to about becoming a site critic for your team.. | 
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|  09-22-2006, 05:29 AM | #16 | 
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				 | Out the sponsor here. And then send a mail to the surfer recomending him to join our site instead if he wants vakue for his money  
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|  09-22-2006, 05:33 AM | #17 | 
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				 | I can not bear the suspense...... naaaaaammee theeee sittteeeeeeeeeeee @@@@!!!!@!!!@@@ | 
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|  09-22-2006, 05:34 AM | #18 | |
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|  09-22-2006, 05:39 AM | #19 | |
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|  09-22-2006, 07:21 AM | #20 | 
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				 | a site that has added 9 movies in a year is not a site i'd want to promote as revshare. honestly i wouldn't want to promote them at all since they are teaching surfers a lesson in lack of trusting paysites that i wish no surfer had to learn. | 
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|  09-22-2006, 07:22 AM | #21 | 
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				 | Whatta crap.Well that is marketing where you must lie a lot ot bring customer. | 
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|  09-22-2006, 07:37 AM | #22 | |
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 I won't name the sponsor, no need for it as there are many many more sites out there doing the exact same thing  
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|  09-22-2006, 07:39 AM | #23 | |
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|  09-22-2006, 07:48 AM | #24 | 
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				 | This is just wrong. If you pay for something you should get it. Everything else is fraud. It's that simple. Besides, why don't these idiots spend a bit more on content. They could have gotten way more rebills with that. They are shooting themselves in the foot while throwing a bad light on the entire porn industry. Out the fuckers! They deserve at least that. Congrats to Chris.  
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|  09-22-2006, 09:11 AM | #25 | |
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|  09-22-2006, 10:02 AM | #26 | 
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				 | To put some prespective for those under 30. I remember 15-20 years ago paying $5 to rent ONE porn movie that you got to keep for 24 hours and paying $6 for a Hustler that had ZERO pentration. | 
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|  09-22-2006, 01:41 PM | #27 | |
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|  09-22-2006, 01:51 PM | #28 | 
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				 | I have been truly amazed with how poor the members areas of some of the larger sites are. 
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|  09-22-2006, 01:59 PM | #29 | 
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				 | chargeback about to occur.... 
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|  09-22-2006, 02:16 PM | #30 | |
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 There are a few big names out there who are more than great, offering almost ridiculous ammounts of content (no feed crap), but most of the bigger/better/more impressive sites are from the ones focussing on 1 site at the time. Sites like Teendreams, twistys, karups, those are the guys who know exactly what counts. They don't need to fuck the surfer up with countless forms of upsales and shit. They just deliver what they promise and it works out perfect. Sounds pretty easy huh   Reviewing paysites (not even doing it myself but I do see most memberareas) gives you a great view on what you promote. 
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|  09-22-2006, 02:19 PM | #31 | 
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				 | Lou's collecting ferraris (or lambos? I can't keep track) but it has nothing to do with scamming surfers OR webmasters. It's because back in the day he created a business model that everyone else laughed at. They thought he was crazy having all that content shot all over the world. Content that can't be seen in any other members areas. Content that is added 6 days a week by the SHITLOADS.  You can view the tours and every week they will SHOW THE SURFER what models were added, how many pics, how many movies, everything. What happens when a sufer joins and gets into the members areas? They see these new models and new sets IMMEDIATELY. Easy to find and 100% honest. Now THERE'S a concept! | 
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|  09-22-2006, 02:23 PM | #32 | |
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 This is exactly what I mean though. Ofcourse these guys have been around for a long time but I still think with a good business model you can still succeed in this game. Btw where were you in AMsterdam Nicole? Missed you this year ;))) 
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|  09-22-2006, 02:24 PM | #33 | 
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				 | I got the same e mail from this person and I don't even have a review for this particular company. | 
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|  09-22-2006, 03:29 PM | #34 | |
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 AHh okay, so it's not karups...I thought Roald was talking about karups or twisty's  
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|  09-22-2006, 03:32 PM | #35 | |
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|  09-22-2006, 03:35 PM | #36 | 
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				 | [QUOTE=QuaShe]Yes, but the review was done more than half a year ago so up to then it was ok. QUOTE] Maybe I misunderstood but how was it okay if the tour was promoting a bunch of stuff and the members area didn't have it??? 
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|  09-22-2006, 03:37 PM | #37 | |
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|  09-22-2006, 06:12 PM | #38 | 
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				 | I am sure it was partly about the tour , it showed the guy a girl.. and once he was in the site, all he got was the first clip of that girl's movie.. no actual hardcore or anything.. i wouldn't touch that Sponsor ..with a 10 foot pole... been in this biz for 8 years and i assure you the profits are in the rebills. | 
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|  09-22-2006, 06:59 PM | #39 | |
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