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Lazonby 09-20-2006 09:43 AM

I don't usually waste time finding links, but I am going to be nice to you today.

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Originally Posted by Webby
Link?

http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/09/...arusiran.shtml



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Originally Posted by Webby
Link?

http://venezuelatoday.net/gustavo-co...terrorism.html



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Originally Posted by Webby
Link?

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_i...9888036 6B215

directfiesta 09-20-2006 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby
Chavez recently attended a meeting in Havana in which all the world's scumbags were there (Ahmadinejad & Co). He has created a 'nonaligned group' of dictators, etc.

Chavez is also allowing Hizballah, the terrorist group, to operate freely in one of Venezuela's provinces, where they are indoctrinating the local Indian tribe in Islam.

He has also tried to change the constitution so that he can rule for another 20 odd years.

Somewhere there is a very lucky bullet with Chavez's name on it, I'm happy to say. It's just a matter of time.

Interesting links ... :thumbsup

I also heard that:

- GW mates with elephants ..

- Barbara is in fact a tranny

- The constitition is only a piece of paper

- and so on ...

it is all true, I swear!

directfiesta 09-20-2006 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby
Yeah, because he is sooooooo evil.

You actually meant to say that GW should never have been allowed to run for president. He may be crap, but he's not evil.

How many countries has Venezuela invaded ????

OG LennyT 09-20-2006 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
How many countries has Venezuela invaded ????


thats a good counter-point idiot

North Korea hasnt invaded anyone either for many years, but they are good guys?

Lazonby 09-20-2006 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
Interesting links ... :thumbsup

I also heard that:

- GW mates with elephants ..

- Barbara is in fact a tranny

- The constitition is only a piece of paper

- and so on ...

it is all true, I swear!

You probably believe what you wrote. You're a nutter.

mardigras 09-20-2006 10:03 AM

If you have CNN pipeline Chavez is doing a press conference right now with international reporters.

Webby 09-20-2006 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby

Originally Posted by Lazonby
Chavez recently attended a meeting in Havana in which all the world's scumbags were there (Ahmadinejad & Co). He has created a 'nonaligned group' of dictators, etc.

[url
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/09/18/beloarusiran.shtml[/url]

That is the link you are using to justify your comment??


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Originally Posted by Lazonby

Originally Posted by Lazonby
Chavez is also allowing Hizballah, the terrorist group, to operate freely in one of Venezuela's provinces, where they are indoctrinating the local Indian tribe in Islam.


[url
http://venezuelatoday.net/gustavo-coronel/hezbollah+venezuela_hugo-chavez_syria-iran_wmd+terrorism.html[/url]

You are using an article by Gustavo Coronel as the basis of your information and a balanced view?? :1orglaugh You seriously need to get better news sources.

Sure.. there is a claim by Coronel of "infiltration" by Hezbollah and this has been purveyed around blogs and the usual slanted websites - along with the usual range of diversions. Coronel is the only person with "proof" - unfortunately he can't provide this.

When challenged (June 2006) even the traditional "US spokesman" had to admit there was "no proof Hezbollah has set up operations in Venezuela".

You will also find "movies" on the net with similar claims, but they never seem to manage to present actual proof of anything. Wonder why and what the motivation is in producing these movies?? Duh??

Of course Hezbollah are in Venezuela - they are in many countries, including the US. Does that mean Bush is harboring terrorists and "allowing Hizballah, the terrorist group, to operate freely??" :1orglaugh


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Originally Posted by Lazonby

Originally Posted by Lazonby
He has also tried to change the constitution so that he can rule for another 20 odd years.

[url
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=3&art_id=qw11469888036 6B215[/url]

Is this report supposed to be the basis of the claim that "he as also tried to change the constitution"??

The constitution has never been changed and contrary to claims otherwise, - Chavez has announced on many occasions he has no intention of standing for longer than two terms of office.

Samples..

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Caracas - President Hugo Chavez rejected a proposal to
amend the country's constitution so that he could be reelected more than
once as president. Chavez said yesterday during his weekly television
program, ?Alo Presidente? that two terms of 6 years in office is enough.
The amendment proposal had been made by, Luis Velasquez Alvaray, a
pro-government legislator who is currently a candidate for the Supreme
Court.

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Associated Press Falsely Portrays Chavez as Seeking 25-Year Term
Monday, May 08, 2006

A little scrutiny of a recent Associated Press report about Venezuela provides a lesson in how the English-language press often gets the story wrong. Take the first sentence: "President Hugo Chavez said Saturday that Venezuelan voters should have the chance to decide whether he should govern the country for the next 25 years."

No, such a referendum would not be about "whether he should govern the country for the next 25 years." A referendum would be about whether Chavez would be permitted to run every six years and --in the event that he were to continue winning elections-- serve multiple presidential terms. The AP report's opening sentence makes it sound as if such a referendum would do away with elections in Venezuela, as if its intent would be to grant Chavez a new 25-year term in office! The website of The Calgary Sun even titles the wire report "Chavez seeking 25-year term"!!

This is obviously an extremely poor piece of reporting. Chavez made it clear that, if the opposition committed to participating in the upcoming presidential election, he would not convoke a referendum to end presidential term limits. He explained that the intent of his threat to convoke such a referendum was not to perpetuate himself in power but rather to defend the Bolivarian Revolution.

SmokeyTheBear 09-20-2006 10:35 AM

how dare you insult the devil , he isnt such a bad guy ..

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/180926...of_california/

Z 09-20-2006 10:35 AM

I'm selling www.impeachgeorgew.com

You know you want it!

squishypimp 09-20-2006 10:36 AM

alot of people saying this and that.

i want GW outta office.

kektex 09-20-2006 11:18 AM

What a dumbass..as a venezuelan I´m truly ashamed.
I would have loved it if someone in that press conference had asked him why he is so worried about the iraqi death toll while in my country more people die every weekend violent deaths.Or why 20 of every 1000 prisoners in Venezuelan jails die.Or why so many children die of malnourishment every day.

I´m not a Bush supporter by any means but Chavez is just as bad.It´s just that he is love by "armchair leftists" everywhere.

northboy 09-20-2006 11:31 AM

damn mexicans always causing problems

northboy 09-20-2006 11:41 AM

damn mexicans always causing problems

E$_manager 09-20-2006 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dvd316
Who is Hugo Chavez again?

Of all people, what does he have against George W? Isnt he a drug kingpin or something?

President of Venesuela. Great guy!

Lazonby 09-20-2006 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cristie
President of Venesuela. Great guy!

Lol, nice sarcasm.

Lazonby 09-20-2006 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
That is the link you are using to justify your comment??

You asked for a link. I gave you one out of several hundred. Go and find your own links in future you lazy bastard.

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Originally Posted by Webby
You are using an article by Gustavo Coronel as the basis of your information and a balanced view?? :1orglaugh You seriously need to get better news sources.

Sure.. there is a claim by Coronel of "infiltration" by Hezbollah and this has been purveyed around blogs and the usual slanted websites - along with the usual range of diversions. Coronel is the only person with "proof" - unfortunately he can't provide this.

When challenged (June 2006) even the traditional "US spokesman" had to admit there was "no proof Hezbollah has set up operations in Venezuela".

You will also find "movies" on the net with similar claims, but they never seem to manage to present actual proof of anything. Wonder why and what the motivation is in producing these movies?? Duh??

Of course Hezbollah are in Venezuela - they are in many countries, including the US. Does that mean Bush is harboring terrorists and "allowing Hizballah, the terrorist group, to operate freely??" :1orglaugh




Is this report supposed to be the basis of the claim that "he as also tried to change the constitution"??

The constitution has never been changed and contrary to claims otherwise, - Chavez has announced on many occasions he has no intention of standing for longer than two terms of office.

Samples..

So, your source is better than mine, eh?

The problem of the 'got a link?' mentality, beautifully illustrated.

The thing is, that since you are on the hard left, it's known that what you say is [almost certainly] way, way lower in importance than someone who is not on the hard left, even before you put finger to keyboard.

As soon as someone like myself, or 12clicks, or one of the more rational people on the board come in, you're stuck. That's just how it is for hard lefties. Although you have to accept some responsibility for yourself, it's probably more to do with your genes and upbringing. Lefties are perfectly ok when it comes to completing a task they are given, but when it comes to thinking for themselves, they fail almost every time. To think that Hugo Chavez is a 'great guy' when all the evidence is to the contrary is exceptionally poor.

Knowing that you are on the hard left, surely it would be better to just stay out of political discussions, because you should know by now that you have nothing to add, and you just waste people's time. So rather than embarrass yourself further like Mother Sheehan :1orglaugh , Noam Chomsky :1orglaugh , George Galloway :1orglaugh or Jimmy Carter (lolol at that guy), who just keep on going and going without shame, ad nauseam, just stay out of it and let the better people talk. If kids come into a thread and want some information then they can have it, but people like you shouldn't be here, as even things with a neutral comprehension of world affairs such as monkeys, earthworms and blocks of wood are more accurate than the likes of you, that lunatic-coward directfiesta and the 'tasty hat' guy, Mr. Soul.


Lol.

directfiesta 09-20-2006 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby

As soon as someone like myself, or 12clicks, or one of the more rational people on the board come in,


... you meant RADICAL... didn't you ????

Lazonby 09-20-2006 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
... you meant RADICAL... didn't you ????

Well perhaps in your fucked up world, radical means rational. But you don't surprise me any more. You'd only surprise me if you came into a thread and weren't either cowardly or completely wrong, or both.

By the way, I took a guess the other day that you are Quebecois? Was I right?

Webby 09-20-2006 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby
You asked for a link. I gave you one out of several hundred. Go and find your own links in future you lazy bastard.

You claimed a lot and never backed it up with anything - that's called spew.

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Originally Posted by Lazonby
So, your source is better than mine, eh?

You got it.


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Originally Posted by Lazonby
The thing is, that since you are on the hard left, it's known that what you say is [almost certainly] way, way lower in importance than someone who is not on the hard left, even before you put finger to keyboard.

As soon as someone like myself, or 12clicks, or one of the more rational people on the board come in, you're stuck. That's just how it is for hard lefties. Although you have to accept some responsibility for yourself, it's probably more to do with your genes and upbringing. Lefties are perfectly ok when it comes to completing a task they are given, but when it comes to thinking for themselves, they fail almost every time. To think that Hugo Chavez is a 'great guy' when all the evidence is to the contrary is exceptionally poor.

Knowing that you are on the hard left, surely it would be better to just stay out of political discussions, because you should know by now that you have nothing to add, and you just waste people's time. So rather than embarrass yourself further like Mother Sheehan :1orglaugh , Noam Chomsky :1orglaugh , George Galloway :1orglaugh or Jimmy Carter (lolol at that guy), who just keep on going and going without shame, ad nauseam, just stay out of it and let the better people talk. If kids come into a thread and want some information then they can have it, but people like you shouldn't be here, as even things with a neutral comprehension of world affairs such as monkeys, earthworms and blocks of wood are more accurate than the likes of you, that lunatic-coward directfiesta and the 'tasty hat' guy, Mr. Soul.
Lol.

Now we have more spew - the usual rambling from an idiot full of assumptions, arrogance, sound and fury and signifying nothing.

Have you even answered the claims you spewed earlier? Nope - just a total ramble that obviously pleases you and avoids any fact.

Dream on!! The illness is terminal :1orglaugh :1orglaugh



PS Remember to check under your bed for Muslims and Hezbollah - they are everywhere :pimp

he-fox 09-20-2006 01:16 PM

Hugo Chavez is a very dangerous Trotzky-st...dumb are those who minimalize his powers.

Webby 09-20-2006 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby
Well perhaps in your fucked up world, radical means rational.

You really do have a problem and need a "cause" and enemies, don't you? LOL

Webby 09-20-2006 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by he-fox
Hugo Chavez is a very dangerous Trotzky-st...dumb are those who minimalize his powers.

Agree he-fox - he *could* end up being a problem character.





PS And just for Lazonby - Bush is far more dangerous right now :winkwink:

Lazonby 09-20-2006 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
You claimed a lot and never backed it up with anything - that's called spew.

But you're a hard leftist, so it doesn't matter what you say anyway.



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Originally Posted by Webby
You got it.

Lol, yeah right. You dumb leftist.




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Originally Posted by Webby
Now we have more spew - the usual rambling from an idiot full of assumptions, arrogance, sound and fury and signifying nothing.

Have you even answered the claims you spewed earlier? Nope - just a total ramble that obviously pleases you and avoids any fact.

Dream on!! The illness is terminal :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

What am I supposed to do - get yet another link from google to back myself up? It's not like I'm arguing with someone important.

The facts of this case are - Hugo Chavez is a hard lefty. Not only this, but he is also absolutely crazy. Hard lefties have tendency to stick to power a little longer than they're entitled. Crazy lefties have a tendency to do everything they can to stay in power. So, does Chavez want to be in power forever? Yes. Will he try and stay in power forever? Yes.

It's also a fact he is busom buddies with Ahmadinejad of Iran and has stated numerous times that he will co-operate fully with the Islamist Iranian government in the fight against the US. So, since it is known that HizbAllah operate in South America anyway and since Chavez has already said he will co-operate fully with Ahmadinejad, what do you think the chances are of HizbAllah being allowed to operate in Venezuela? I'd reckon 100%.

You'd probably need a link from google to point these things out to you though. God forbid you use your own brain. Do you need a link to tell you when to wipe your arse too?



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Originally Posted by Webby
PS Remember to check under your bed for Muslims and Hezbollah - they are everywhere :pimp

I already checked and you were absolutely right as usual - my 'under bed space' was crammed with Muslims.

Lazonby 09-20-2006 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
You really do have a problem and need a "cause" and enemies, don't you? LOL

My cause is swatting lefty flies like you.

Webby 09-20-2006 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby
My cause is swatting lefty flies like you.

Assumptions, assumptions - they never end do they?? :1orglaugh It's the classic weakness of the mentally inhibited.

Damn.. your "cause" sounds kinda pointless - try and get some experience and have a clue before attempting to swat anything :thumbsup

Lazonby 09-20-2006 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
Agree he-fox - he *could* end up being a problem character.

A peek into the mind of the Lefty - Webby would rather wait until Chavez absolutely proved beyond doubt that he a danger. Say, by allowing Iran to ship a nuke to a US refinery in a Venezuelan tanker, or by supporting a left-wing coup or whatever.

People with sense realise that it is better to nip problems in the bud. Since we know Chavez is a lunatic, since he tells us every chance he gets that he a lunatic, since he hangs out with other lunatics, lunatics who chant "death to America and all infidels", we know it's better to stop him BEFORE he can ship that nuke or fund that coup or whatever.

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Originally Posted by Webby
PS And just for Lazonby - Bush is far more dangerous right now :winkwink:

Bush is fairly dangerous, but not nearly enough, to governments who sponsor terrorism. He should be far more so. He should make the scumbags fear him.

Webby 09-20-2006 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby
I already checked and you were absolutely right as usual - my 'under bed space' was crammed with Muslims.

Told ya - they are everywhere. I knew you would find them :1orglaugh

Lazonby 09-20-2006 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
Assumptions, assumptions - they never end do they?? :1orglaugh It's the classic weakness of the mentally inhibited.

Damn.. your "cause" sounds kinda pointless - try and get some experience and have a clue before attempting to swat anything :thumbsup

And yet any assumption I may have is automatically far higher than anything you could come up with. You're a lefty. Nothing more than a peon. Get down the mines, peon :1orglaugh

Webby 09-20-2006 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby
A peek into the mind of the Lefty - Webby would rather wait until Chavez absolutely proved beyond doubt that he a danger. Say, by allowing Iran to ship a nuke to a US refinery in a Venezuelan tanker, or by supporting a left-wing coup or whatever.

People with sense realise that it is better to nip problems in the bud. Since we know Chavez is a lunatic, since he tells us every chance he gets that he a lunatic, since he hangs out with other lunatics, lunatics who chant "death to America and all infidels", we know it's better to stop him BEFORE he can ship that nuke or fund that coup or whatever.



Bush is fairly dangerous, but not nearly enough, to governments who sponsor terrorism. He should be far more so. He should make the scumbags fear him.

So..... you just don't like Hugo much??? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


BTW.. Chavez is manufacturing WMD and planning to attack the US because he has intelligence that the US has weapons of mass destruction. This has proven to be more reliable the Bush's intell on Iraq :winkwink:

Webby 09-20-2006 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby
And yet any assumption I may have is automatically far higher than anything you could come up with. You're a lefty. Nothing more than a peon. Get down the mines, peon :1orglaugh

Still more assumptions from the mentally unstable?? You are now making assumptions based on your own assumptions?? No wonder you get fucked up :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

OG LennyT 09-20-2006 01:54 PM

I masterbated 20 minutes ago

Zarathustra 09-20-2006 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by notabook
Damn that Mr. Danger/donkey/devil guy! Damn him to heaven/farm/hell!

Mr. Danger, the funniest name given to bush thus far :1orglaugh

mardigras 09-20-2006 02:35 PM

Here's the video for Chavez's speech in front of the UN:
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_vi...ml?id=2026044n

Platinum Lantern 09-20-2006 02:48 PM

I love President Chavez's remarks and I'm glad someone has the balls to say this on such a large platform

Webby 09-20-2006 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras
Here's the video for Chavez's speech in front of the UN:
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_vi...ml?id=2026044n

Thanks for the link - useful to have a clue as to what Chavez did actually say without the dramatic headlines.

Who knows, - he probably did voice the attitude of most countries and people, although in his usual contraversial style. (At least he wore a suit and subdued his usual rambling :) )

There are a good number of others leaders who are, more of less, of the same opinion, tho they are far more effective with "words" and delivery. Oddly, a fair number of these leaders come from the oldest democracies in the world and have played an effect role in "nation peacemaking" which is far harder than making decisions to go to war. Strange they see a small problem :)

Matt 26z 09-20-2006 03:40 PM

Considering all of the bad stuff said about Chavez by the US government and media, don't any of you find it a little strange that NONE of it is backed up with allegations of any kind? Only name calling.

He was elected fairly by the people.

He has no WMD, and nobody has ever claimed he does.

He does not harm his own people, and nobody has ever claimed he has. Criminal execution isn't even legal there.

You can't call the country Islamic extremists either. According to Wikipedia, a stunning 96% of the country is Roman Catholic.


Other than his desire to slam Bush any chance he gets, is there a legit reason to hate this man?

kektex 09-20-2006 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

He was elected fairly by the people.

That was 8 years ago.Since then he has relied on a bunch of electoral trickery to grab all the power in the country.The guy controls the electoral council,the supreme court,the congress...do I need to go on?


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Originally Posted by Matt 26z
He does not harm his own people, and nobody has ever claimed he has.

He´s got many political prisoners for openly opposing him. The president of the biggest workers union here spent some time in prison before he managed to escape recently.And that is just one case.Not to mention all the deaths of his opponents at the hands of his supporters and the national guard.
I wont even go in to the fact that while there are thousands of families without homes here, he´s travelling around the world buying support by building hospitals,schools and homes in other countries.We could use that money here!

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z
Other than his desire to slam Bush any chance he gets, is there a legit reason to hate this man?

Well I live in Venezuela and I have dozens of reasons.Among them is the fact that he´s divided the people here and instigated hate among fellow venezuelans.

directfiesta 09-20-2006 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kektex
That was 8 years ago.Since then he has relied on a bunch of electoral trickery to grab all the power in the country.The guy controls the electoral council,the supreme court,the congress...do I need to go on?



He´s got many political prisoners for openly opposing him. The president of the biggest workers union here spent some time in prison before he managed to escape recently.And that is just one case.Not to mention all the deaths of his opponents at the hands of his supporters and the national guard.
I wont even go in to the fact that while there are thousands of families without homes here, he´s travelling around the world buying support by building hospitals,schools and homes in other countries.We could use that money here!



Well I live in Venezuela and I have dozens of reasons.Among them is the fact that he´s divided the people here and instigated hate among fellow venezuelans.


ALL your answers apply word for word to Bush also ... and probably a few dozens leader ...

Obviously, you probably were pretty close to the previous right wing powerfull leaders, and since their departures, you have felt personnally the loss of priviliges that you weere granted ... :2 cents:

directfiesta 09-20-2006 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z


Other than his desire to slam Bush any chance he gets, is there a legit reason to hate this man?

Yes!!!!!!!

He has OIL , a shit load of it .

Mighty Chin 09-20-2006 04:40 PM

Chavez hates Bush so much that he sells the US his OIL.


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