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Old 09-17-2006, 10:12 PM   #1
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Does Paying Out Weekly Really matter to you??

Does it really matter if its weekly?
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Old 09-17-2006, 10:14 PM   #2
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yeah it means money quicker in my pocket.
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One good question is: Is weekly payout ok if it is two weeks staggered?

I can see alot of people targeting sponsors that do not lag it out for fraud control...
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I can see alot of people targeting sponsors that do not lag it out for fraud control...

but that also means alot of fraudsters are the ones targeting them.

real webmasters will wait for check's if the content is good and it converts.
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For the small affiliates I think so yes. One of the main reasons they like to merge all their CCBill revshare accounts together. In order to meet the payout, which means yes they want their money ASAP.
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One good question is: Is weekly payout ok if it is two weeks staggered?

I can see alot of people targeting sponsors that do not lag it out for fraud control...

It would have to be at least 2 weeks staggered for fraud control. I remember when programs waited a month so it took 2 months to get your first check
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Old 09-17-2006, 10:18 PM   #7
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Are you casting a wide net for any and all affiliates or mainly concerned with harpooning a few whales? If casting a wide net I'd say paying weekly is a must to compete seriously.

If you were primarily a micro niche program I'd say, go with what your crowd tolerates or will accept.


However, in general, even a few whales I personally know require weekly payment from sponsors even if not publicly offered. They actually have a few reasons other than 'just cuz' that are fairly rational.
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However, in general, even a few whales I personally know require weekly payment from sponsors even if not publicly offered. They actually have a few reasons other than 'just cuz' that are fairly rational.
Can you say why?
I can see interest, but you would need a huge payout for 21 days longer to make any noticable difference.

I like weekly payouts, but bi montly or montly even doesnt really bother me.
I mean the same money ends up in my account.
Most in house billing sites I cant make the min payout in a week anyways unless they are one of the 2 or 3 I am really pushing at the time. So its like bi montly or even monthly from some. ccbill is about the only one I never have to worry about making the min.
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Can you say why?
I can see interest, but you would need a huge payout for 21 days longer to make any noticable difference.

I like weekly payouts, but bi montly or montly even doesnt really bother me.
I mean the same money ends up in my account.
Most in house billing sites I cant make the min payout in a week anyways unless they are one of the 2 or 3 I am really pushing at the time. So its like bi montly or even monthly from some. ccbill is about the only one I never have to worry about making the min.

Is a $100 min alot? what is alot for a min?
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Are you casting a wide net for any and all affiliates or mainly concerned with harpooning a few whales? If casting a wide net I'd say paying weekly is a must to compete seriously.

If you were primarily a micro niche program I'd say, go with what your crowd tolerates or will accept.


However, in general, even a few whales I personally know require weekly payment from sponsors even if not publicly offered. They actually have a few reasons other than 'just cuz' that are fairly rational.
Probably in case the program goes bust you only get fucked outa 1 weeks pay instead of 4 weeks + or more.
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I really dont care as long as I get paid..

I actually prefer a large monthly check versus smaller weekly but either way I dont care.

I understand those who buy traffic and want to re-invest it want it weekly
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i think twice a month is enough...
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Probably in case the program goes bust you only get fucked outa 1 weeks pay instead of 4 weeks + or more.

What if there is a lag time before you get paid?

We pay twice a month no lag time. so if a program has a 2 week lag time before your first check you would get a check from us first.

If you send 3 days before our payout date you would get your first check 3 days later..then twice a month.

It might be better if we pay weekly with a 2 weeks lag time to see if the webmasters legit would that be bad?
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Probably in case the program goes bust you only get fucked outa 1 weeks pay instead of 4 weeks + or more.
You hit the nail on the head man.

People pushing a boatload joins a day don't want that type of risk laying on the table if it can be avoided.

And on the flip side you gotta figure the little guy really wants to see that 50 dollars when it's earned. That's a gas bill or some beers.

Really weekly seems the way to go if you can logistically handle the extra papermill.
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You hit the nail on the head man.

People pushing a boatload joins a day don't want that type of risk laying on the table if it can be avoided.

And on the flip side you gotta figure the little guy really wants to see that 50 dollars when it's earned. That's a gas bill or some beers.

Really weekly seems the way to go if you can logistically handle the extra papermill.

Thats the thing its kinda a pain for acounting. I just see so many threads started by webmasters looking for weekly payouts. I was wondering if it really matters to most?
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nah, i actually like 2 week better. i promote about 100 sponsors and get a shitload of different checks, so it would be better to get 1 big check instead of 2 small checks.
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nah, i actually like 2 week better. i promote about 100 sponsors and get a shitload of different checks, so it would be better to get 1 big check instead of 2 small checks.
Hopefully one day we will make it to your sig list
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Doesn't matter to me, I go to the bank one day a month max.
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but that also means alot of fraudsters are the ones targeting them.

real webmasters will wait for check's if the content is good and it converts.
Real sponsors don't mind paying weekly.
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Is a $100 min alot? what is alot for a min?

100 is fine, I dont have enough traffic to make enough sales to every program I get a check from to make the min payout every week, and I know that, and have my ways of dealing with it, but if it takes 3 weeks to make the payout thats fine.

I get at least one check from most programs i promote every month. From old galleries/banners or whatever. Dont think I have any that take more then 7 weeks right now.

looking at my last 2 weeks stubs/epass there were 6 programs (including ccbill) that made the payout both weeks, and 6 last week and 5 the week befor that were only once in the 2 week span.

I wouldnt promote a site that has a min payout higher then 200 though, but after 100 the sites would have to be something I really thought would do good, and not a "this will fill that void well".
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If a sponsor wants to hold money with a delay for fraud they should also be sympathetic to the baby webmasters who never reach minimum and clear out all accounts 3 or 4 times per year.
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Thats the thing its kinda a pain for acounting. I just see so many threads started by webmasters looking for weekly payouts. I was wondering if it really matters to most?
I hear ya. Extra check chasing for the 'oh man I moved and didn't get my address updated in time' and of course the obvious extra number crunching and verifying time...

That being said, I'd wager you'll pickup a lot more new webmasters going weekly.

At the end of the day though, how many of those new webmasters will be active versus the time spent on weekly processing.

I'm still thinking it'd be a safe bet to offer faster payouts, some of those newbies learn stuff and become whales in short order. Look at that damm newbie Trey!?

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the sooner I get the money the better, so weekly is preferred, though it's not a major factor when selecting a sponsor...
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If a sponsor wants to hold money with a delay for fraud they should also be sympathetic to the baby webmasters who never reach minimum and clear out all accounts 3 or 4 times per year.

most of those sales are them testing the program.. but if webmasters really need the money they hit us up and we pay them out. if they are legit
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You hit the nail on the head man.

People pushing a boatload joins a day don't want that type of risk laying on the table if it can be avoided.

And on the flip side you gotta figure the little guy really wants to see that 50 dollars when it's earned. That's a gas bill or some beers.

Really weekly seems the way to go if you can logistically handle the extra papermill.
Yep, and on the other flip side, if you really trust the person owing you money, it's sometimes convenient to not have them pay you your last couple months until after Dec 31'st if you can get by without it. This especially works good if you keep making more and more every year.

You don't earn and pay taxes until you get the money.
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My thought is always: If a sponsor pays weekly, it's that much less time that I'll get fucked if they play games.

If a week's payout is $5,000 and they miss a check, I'm out $5,000 for that week, and I pull the links. If a month's payout is $20,000 (or more), I'm out a lot more before I know there's a problem.

Maybe I'm just paranoid.

I hope that helps, Roger.
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I prefer a check once a month, I only have energy to go to the bank like once a month or longer. I always let them build up and go once a month and sometimes once every one and a half months.

Weekly checks are more work because there are more envelopes to open and more checks to endorse (sign) on the back. I am so lazy I have tons and tons (like thousands and thousands of dollars) of uncashed checks at my home. I will cash them of course before they expire, but laziness is a problem for me.

More checks is also more separate entries in my accounting software. I don't care about getting my money sooner. I just want less work.

I don't like wires or epassport though, because i need a paper trail so i can figure out how much i owe in taxes.

I promote a lot of sponsors and I get tired of opening many envelopes actually

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to be ohnest i prefer a minimum payout of $500 or $1000, that ways its more worthwile taking those cheques to the bank and cheaping with exchange rate fee's. I often dont reach those figures in a week. But really I like alot of money in one go.
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yes it does, I have had companies go under while owing me money...more payouts means less risk
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I do not mind biweekly, but I prefer ACH and weekly. I do not need money that quickly, and biweekly worked fine in the past. But I just prefer my money in the bank faster.

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Personally, I will not send our biggest chunks of sales to sponsors that don't pay weekly. Or try to pay weekly after holding it for a month etc. There's just too much time for "things to go wrong." Checks lost in the mail, bank errors, sponsors going down, processors going belly up... anything can happen. It's my time, traffic, and sales and being this is all independent work, I want our money ASAP because there is no security at all. All your security in in yourself and your decisions... you can only trust that you will get paid.

I make sure ahead of time all of our sponsors pay us weekly and some even pay daily. Yes, daily. I've been burned a few too many times to play the waiting game with sponsors.
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I perfer weekly payouts or bi-weekly at best. Monthly payouts are fine but sometimes you need cash
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right now id kill just to have sales to even bitch about how many weeks it takes to get paid!!
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Cash flow is just as important, if not more important, than profit margin.

So yes the quicker you can pay webmasters (while still being able to control fraud) the better off you'll both be.
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right now id kill just to have sales to even bitch about how many weeks it takes to get paid!!
What's the maximum distance you'll travel to fill a contract?

ICQ, we'll make a deal.
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twice a month is just fine... and wire payments every week for whales...
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I dont care twice a month too
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It doesn't mean a lot to the Euro guys because of the bank fees and because of the time delay in getting them their checks.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:15 AM   #50
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