So you got a dedicated server.... How do you really know its dedicated? - GoFuckYourself.com

FreakinWebmaster · 09-14-2006, 04:22 PM

I am just wondering how to you really know you have a dedicated server when you sign on with a managed hosting company?

All I have is FTP access and a control panel. And they give me specs on the machine but how do you know for sure its true?

liquidmoe · 09-14-2006, 04:26 PM

There are a few things you can do, such as request root access.

You can verify that besides system users and yourself no one else is present in /etc/passwd (again you may need root access to verify this depending on how your account is locked down).

You can always check your dmesg and verify it against what your hosting company told you your specs where.

dmesg basically displays everything that was detected during boot up, so you can verify your harddrives, cpus, ram, etc. - should be available as "dmesg" from your command-line.

Thats a good start.

negroid · 09-14-2006, 04:35 PM

get the ip and do a whois.sc reverse lookup on it, see if other sites are hosted there

High Plains Drifter · 09-14-2006, 04:37 PM

rebuild the kernel.

jimthefiend · 09-14-2006, 04:38 PM

I know because I told the nice folks at Webair what I wanted.

fuzebox · 09-14-2006, 04:42 PM

Because they just installed a base OS and I setup the rest.

Spudstr · 09-14-2006, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Because they just installed a base OS and I setup the rest.

ah, but with computers becomming so fast now, and with software even like the new vmware esx you can easily think our on your own machine when reality your just a VM

A company I use to work for would give out dedicatd servers but they were in reality VMsessions, poor users had no idea and they never complained or said a word about it either.

Jarmusch · 09-14-2006, 04:50 PM

"Rest assured your server is dedicated."

Swish · 09-14-2006, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch

"Rest assured your server is dedicated."

QTbucks_Mark · 09-14-2006, 05:55 PM

I know for sure. Because I carried every damn piece of hardware into the datacenter myself...

bknoob · 09-14-2006, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Spudstr

ah, but with computers becomming so fast now, and with software even like the new vmware esx you can easily think our on your own machine when reality your just a VM

A company I use to work for would give out dedicatd servers but they were in reality VMsessions, poor users had no idea and they never complained or said a word about it either.

haha, that's awesome! a dirty trick but awesome indeed.

BUSH_MUST_DIE · 09-14-2006, 06:03 PM

tell them to install a MRTG graphic system to measure traffic, and there you can see if its dedicated or not.

tranza · 09-14-2006, 06:05 PM

Good question...

pussyluver · 09-14-2006, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudstr

ah, but with computers becomming so fast now, and with software even like the new vmware esx you can easily think our on your own machine when reality your just a VM

A company I use to work for would give out dedicatd servers but they were in reality VMsessions, poor users had no idea and they never complained or said a word about it either.

good point. If you've done the whois.sc and logged in as root and took a look around and the server is doing its job, I suppose it doesn't matter? If I found out I didn't get what I ordered, I would be with another company though.

Would this be cost effective for a hosting company anyway? Have 160 GB HD, burstable bandwidth and have tested for speed, 1Gbyte Ram and so on. They'd have to buy a faily expensive machine to serve up enough horse power to fool many webmasters.

TheJimmy · 09-14-2006, 06:14 PM

Let me tell you a little story about a man named r00t...

For real, I wouldn't get a dedicated without root, just seems rediculous unless your hosting company plans on doing all of your coding/development work. Whe shit needs to be configured, modd'd, recompiled and whatnot, having to wait for a ticket to be done is a serious pain in the ass, or can be...

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Shoehorn! · 09-14-2006, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch

"Rest assured your server is dedicated."

pussyluver · 09-14-2006, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJimmy

Let me tell you a little story about a man named r00t...

For real, I wouldn't get a dedicated without root, just seems rediculous unless your hosting company plans on doing all of your coding/development work. Whe shit needs to be configured, modd'd, recompiled and whatnot, having to wait for a ticket to be done is a serious pain in the ass, or can be...

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Amen

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BUSH_MUST_DIE · 09-14-2006, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch

"Rest assured your server is dedicated."

ROFL...

pussyluver · 09-14-2006, 06:20 PM

In the wait mode now on something. No complaints as they respond in a reasonable amount of time and I can call 24/7 etc., but still...

I have root access and I can jump in myself if I want. Depends on what it is. This time, I feel safer letting them handle it. There is also the issue of to many fingers in the machine... The last one was simple enough, so I did it on my own.

pussyluver · 09-14-2006, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BUSH_MUST_DIE

tell them to install a MRTG graphic system to measure traffic, and there you can see if its dedicated or not.

Your nick is a death threat all by itself IMO. I'd ban it if I had mod status. Suggest you read the GFY rules. The mods are getting serious these days.

Fabien · 09-14-2006, 06:35 PM

So, which host playing this trick ?
Got names ?

If a host can pull something like. Imagine what they can do ?

Spudstr · 09-14-2006, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUSH_MUST_DIE

tell them to install a MRTG graphic system to measure traffic, and there you can see if its dedicated or not.

you can use the host node to monitor and store bandwidth just like mrtg does on a snmp poll to a device, linux iptables makes it faily easy to track bandwidth on a ip level. Common way to track bandwidth on a VPS server running a number of VE's.

videodoll · 09-14-2006, 07:49 PM

can't you just login and look in /home for other usernames?

woj · 09-14-2006, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudstr

ah, but with computers becomming so fast now, and with software even like the new vmware esx you can easily think our on your own machine when reality your just a VM

A company I use to work for would give out dedicatd servers but they were in reality VMsessions, poor users had no idea and they never complained or said a word about it either.

so that's how they can sell dedicated servers for $49.99/month

squishypimp · 09-14-2006, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarmusch

"Rest assured your server is dedicated."

i love it!

detoxed · 09-14-2006, 08:37 PM

That is illegal and I would sue for deception, fraud, false advertising, etc. get them shut the fuckdown.

Jakke PNG · 09-14-2006, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJimmy

Let me tell you a little story about a man named r00t...

For real, I wouldn't get a dedicated without root, just seems rediculous unless your hosting company plans on doing all of your coding/development work. Whe shit needs to be configured, modd'd, recompiled and whatnot, having to wait for a ticket to be done is a serious pain in the ass, or can be...

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I don't have my root.. simply because I'd fuck things up. I'd rather harass the fantastic support guys to do the stuff for me.
Having to WAIT for a ticket to be done? What's that? Not where I send my tickets to.

Sorry. I had to spam. But I really don't have root for the above reason. The rest of the statement is true too

Fabien · 09-15-2006, 02:48 AM

So, which host playing this trick ?
Got names ?

If a host can pull something like. Imagine what they can do ?

09-14-2006, 04:22 PM	#1
FreakinWebmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mile High State Posts: 935	So you got a dedicated server.... How do you really know its dedicated? I am just wondering how to you really know you have a dedicated server when you sign on with a managed hosting company? All I have is FTP access and a control panel. And they give me specs on the machine but how do you know for sure its true?

09-14-2006, 04:26 PM	#2
liquidmoe Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 4,994	There are a few things you can do, such as request root access. You can verify that besides system users and yourself no one else is present in /etc/passwd (again you may need root access to verify this depending on how your account is locked down). You can always check your dmesg and verify it against what your hosting company told you your specs where. dmesg basically displays everything that was detected during boot up, so you can verify your harddrives, cpus, ram, etc. - should be available as "dmesg" from your command-line. Thats a good start. __________________ Take Luck!

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fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,114	Because they just installed a base OS and I setup the rest.

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BUSH_MUST_DIE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 78	tell them to install a MRTG graphic system to measure traffic, and there you can see if its dedicated or not.

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pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	In the wait mode now on something. No complaints as they respond in a reasonable amount of time and I can call 24/7 etc., but still... I have root access and I can jump in myself if I want. Depends on what it is. This time, I feel safer letting them handle it. There is also the issue of to many fingers in the machine... The last one was simple enough, so I did it on my own.

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Fabien Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,787	So, which host playing this trick ? Got names ? If a host can pull something like. Imagine what they can do ?

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detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	That is illegal and I would sue for deception, fraud, false advertising, etc. get them shut the fuckdown.

09-15-2006, 02:48 AM	#28
Fabien Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,787	So, which host playing this trick ? Got names ? If a host can pull something like. Imagine what they can do ?