Designers - Make a quick $25 - Banner Design - GoFuckYourself.com

Goonx · 06-23-2002, 10:47 AM

I need a banner designed (468x80) for TODAY. This is an important banner so I need it to look very professional and attractive.

Don't contact me unless you have good experience in banner design.

$25 by paypal , a good experienced designer can finish it very quickly, so I think thats fair for 1 banner.

ICQ on sig.

(If more than one designers will contact me than I'll ask to see some examples so I can choose a designer)

Good designers will have plenty of projects from me in the future...

SleazyDream · 06-23-2002, 10:48 AM

man - it just gets cheaper and cheaper........

Wizzo · 06-23-2002, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
man - it just gets cheaper and cheaper........

$25 seems fair for 1 banner, not that I would do it, but I'm sure someone would...

pr0 · 06-23-2002, 10:53 AM

wow....banners used to be 40bux...what happnd?

The Machine · 06-23-2002, 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by pr0
wow....banners used to be 40bux...what happnd?

cheap customers happened.

Fletch XXX · 06-23-2002, 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by Goonx

Don't contact me unless you have good experience in banner design.

You shouldn't offer people the lowest amount possible, when it's a rush order, most would have to wait, including you.

You dont get priority by offering minimum wage.

pr0 · 06-23-2002, 10:58 AM

this design/graphics cost shit is getting ridiculous....

UNION!

UNION!

UNION!

UNION!

UNION!

UNION!

AdultWire · 06-23-2002, 11:01 AM

I'm getting tired of it. I still charge high profile customers $200- 500 for a serious well designed banner. Sometimes, I'll cut a deal if cash-flow is on pause, but this "$25 for a banner and I probably don't even have a stylecard" stuff is not my cup of tea.

SetTheWorldonFire · 06-23-2002, 11:02 AM

Yeah, plus clients want their graphics done fast, yet they barely provide you with anything to work with. We're not fucking magicians, we're artists!

Goonx · 06-23-2002, 11:16 AM

That my price, If I can get it cheap, than why not...people don't get rich by spending all their money you know.

I've had professional banners made for as low as $10 canadian. Unfortinatly these designers are off for the weekend.

$25 is my price, and I'm sticking to it!!

Fletch XXX · 06-23-2002, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by Goonx
That my price, If I can get it cheap, than why not...people don't get rich by spending all their money you know.

I've had professional banners made for as low as $10 canadian. Unfortinatly these designers are off for the weekend.

$25 is my price, and I'm sticking to it!!

Have you found someone to do your banner yet? If not, least ya know why.

SleazyDream · 06-23-2002, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by Wizzo

$25 seems fair for 1 banner, not that I would do it, but I'm sure someone would...

you can get a whore for $20, and a whore for $2000. Sometimes there isn't any difference, but usually there is.

AdultWire · 06-23-2002, 11:23 AM

Goonx.. I didn't really mean to bash you -- If you can get a good deal, more power to you. I started an image consulting company a few years ago, in hopes of bringing traditional design values to the web.

Not Gonna Happen. The only companies that really understand quality design are the 5th percentile crew... They pay good money, but they spread their cash out amongst so many production houses -- well.. let's just say, we focus our design efforts on print & high end multimedia now.

Fletch XXX · 06-23-2002, 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by Goonx
I need a banner designed (468x80) for TODAY. This is an important banner so I need it to look very professional and attractive.

Do you know how many times some of us here this a day let alone a week?

And for you to demand professional work and priority over other people is a bit ridiculous dontcha think? at 25 bucks?

I smoke more herbs than 25 bucks when designing a banner

Goonx · 06-23-2002, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Have you found someone to do your banner yet? If not, least ya know why.

Got plenty, I gues I'll have to learn my leason next time than.

Goonx · 06-23-2002, 11:40 AM

BTW: Job is taken. Thanx everybody, I saw some really cool examples.

Fletch XXX · 06-23-2002, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by Goonx

Got plenty, I gues I'll have to learn my leason next time than.

Yeah you're right man, get it for what ya can.

But remember this,... the guys who jump on your "change tossing" obviously NEED the work, there might be a reason.

Goonx · 06-23-2002, 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Yeah you're right man, get it for what ya can.

But remember this,... the guys who jump on your "change tossing" obviously NEED the work, there might be a reason.

Not necessarily, a good designer can do it in 10 min. Why not take 10 min out of your time and make an easy $25 ??

Than go out and buy yourlesf lunch or something....it's all good

Jakke PNG · 06-23-2002, 11:50 AM

Can you post the finished banner here. I wanna see what 25$ got ya.

Goonx · 06-23-2002, 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Can you post the finished banner here. I wanna see what 25$ got ya.

No I won't post it here. If you wanna see the banner, ICQ me later (I'll have to ask the designers premission first)

pr0 · 06-23-2002, 11:54 AM

hmmmmmmm lunch you say......i eat 25$ worth of extra flour tortilla's on my fajita's at the mexican joint

I also smoke more than 25$ worth of herb when designing, im with ya on that fletch.

beemk · 06-23-2002, 11:56 AM

its all about supply and demand

Goonx · 06-23-2002, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by pr0
hmmmmmmm lunch you say......i eat 25$ worth of extra flour tortilla's on my fajita's at the mexican joint

I also smoke more than 25$ worth of herb when designing, im with ya on that fletch.

Well, enjoy that herb, if you can find anything better to do with "more than $25".

You actually pay to smoke that stuff ?

Nysus · 06-23-2002, 11:57 AM

I personally think a banner worth $40 would have to be pretty damn unique, and pretty damn complex - with quick load time...

$25 is more reasonable - but graphic designer could do 10 banners a day easily ($250) if they are experienced enough.

Cheers,
Matt

Fletch XXX · 06-23-2002, 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by pr0
hmmmmmmm lunch you say......i eat 25$ worth of extra flour tortilla's on my fajita's at the mexican joint

I also smoke more than 25$ worth of herb when designing, im with ya on that fletch.

I just never been one to jump to people who toss change, the hustle out the hood never departed from me, but being from New Orleans this ain't no Mardi Gras and I ain't gonna jump for these beads when somebody don't wanna pay what shit's worth.

If you can't break bread, we ain't eatin up in here.

truth is, I would have did the banner for free if he wanted to make a real deal on future shit, these players can't play.

pr0 · 06-23-2002, 12:01 PM

25$ sucky sucky

by the way im not a designer...so i dunno what people charge...im just running my mouth.

Goonx · 06-23-2002, 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

I just never been one to jump to people who toss change, the hustle out the hood never departed from me, but being from New Orleans this ain't no Mardi Gras and I ain't gonna jump for these beads when somebody don't wanna pay what shit's worth.

If you can't break bread, we ain't eatin up in here.

truth is, I would have did the banner for free if he wanted to make a real deal on future shit, these players can't play.

If I see a good designer, I'll pay him as much as he wants, All my designers get all the respect they ask for. I offered $25 since I don't know any of the designers here... If I like someones work, I'll pay for it, more than its worth...

You don't get paid $50 an hour when on your first day at the job...you start with $15-$20 and if the boss likes your work, he will promote you!

Fletch XXX · 06-23-2002, 12:11 PM

Goonx · 06-23-2002, 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Exactly, this ain't my first day on the job, not even the first year, more like the 6th.

If I were to hire you, it WOULD be your first day of the job. I don't care how experienced you are. If your good, than it will show, and you'll get promoted faster.

(Unless you sleep with the bosses wife offcourse)

fiveyes · 06-23-2002, 12:28 PM

Naughty · 06-23-2002, 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by pr0
wow....banners used to be 40bux...what happnd?

Nothing, it still is, unless you buy a LOT of banners, then it is 25$ each

Fletch XXX · 06-23-2002, 12:40 PM

Sorry guys, Sunday is my day off and parts of my Westbank hood comin back, been drinkin early today.

Missin them Marrero fools from the south, and one of my Gretna friends got shot a couple weeks back man...

wrong day to be on the boards I guess.

deluxe · 06-23-2002, 01:11 PM

I don't think it's a very low price.. Mike wylde charges $45 and he is the absolute top of the design industry.

FATPad · 06-23-2002, 02:40 PM

Gotta love a free market and the effects of competition.

fuel123 · 06-23-2002, 02:51 PM

Did you get your banner finished yet? I am very curious to see it are you going to post it?

fuel

Goonx · 06-23-2002, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by fuel123
Did you get your banner finished yet? I am very curious to see it are you going to post it?

fuel

Again:

No I won't post it here. If you wanna see the banner, ICQ me later (I'll have to ask the designers premission first)

BTW Fuel: contact for something else...

InsaneMidget · 06-23-2002, 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by Goonx

Again:

No I won't post it here. If you wanna see the banner, ICQ me later (I'll have to ask the designers premission first)

BTW Fuel: contact for something else...

Not understanding why you won't post it? And why you would need permission from the designer? If you paid for it, fuck the designer, it's your fucking banner, post it on GFY, I'm curious as well....

InsaneMidget · 06-23-2002, 04:08 PM

Did you ask sesame street's permission to use that elmo pic on your signature?

gaby · 06-23-2002, 04:08 PM

you guys can't wait to bash on his $25 banner.. can you? lol

Pipecrew · 06-23-2002, 04:09 PM

24955222

best designer out there and best prices, he never advertises, thats how you know he's good, refferal only

and I just reffered you

Jakke PNG · 06-23-2002, 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by gaby
you guys can't wait to bash on his $25 banner.. can you? lol

Nah, I just wanna see how much I can ask for my designs, more, or less than 25$

Sly_RJ · 06-23-2002, 05:04 PM

You guys crack me up. I find it hilarious when people say "nobody will do such and such for that amount of money!"

News flash. There are tons of new designers around here trying to get a name, a small portfolio, and they need to pay their cable bill. They'll work for low prices, believe me, I've been there.

What's it that hyper is always saying? Something like "mind your fucking business". If you have no intention of designing the banner, then STFU and move on. Simple as that.

Goonx · 06-23-2002, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by InsaneMidget
Did you ask sesame street's permission to use that elmo pic on your signature?

Yes I did midget.

Goonx · 06-23-2002, 06:50 PM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather

Nah, I just wanna see how much I can ask for my designs, more, or less than 25$

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Doesn't matter what banner I put here, even if its way better than you'l ever be able to do, you'l still say its a peace of shit.

Fletch XXX · 06-23-2002, 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by Goonx
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Doesn't matter what banner I put here, even if its way better than you'l ever be able to do, you'l still say its a peace of shit.

I'd like to see too, but I doubt you'll show, big tymers never shows whats in the lab.

bhutocracy · 06-23-2002, 08:09 PM

$25 isn't that low for a single banner guys.. I reckon he got at least 10 offers.. not like he offered traffic or something

FATPad · 06-23-2002, 08:17 PM

$25 really isn't that out of whack for a banner. It's not like he offered $5. Like someone else said, Wylde charges $45. How much do you guys think a banner is worth?

bhutocracy · 06-23-2002, 08:23 PM

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Originally posted by FATPad
$25 really isn't that out of whack for a banner. It's not like he offered $5. Like someone else said, Wylde charges $45. How much do you guys think a banner is worth?

a banner is worth what someone is willing to pay for it

naw theres a difference between a single banner and a clip of 10, 20, 30 or whatever.. a single banner, I think is worth around $30.. give or take $5... but it depends on complexity and whatnot.. thats why a flash banner is worth more than double that.. it's takes WAY longer to do but is vastly more impressive in it's ability to convey a message and it's animation..
of course it gets cheaper the more you do....

FATPad · 06-23-2002, 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy

a banner is worth what someone is willing to pay for it

naw theres a difference between a single banner and a clip of 10, 20, 30 or whatever.. a single banner, I think is worth around $30.. give or take $5... but it depends on complexity and whatnot.. thats why a flash banner is worth more than double that.. it's takes WAY longer to do but is vastly more impressive in it's ability to convey a message and it's animation..
of course it gets cheaper the more you do..

True. If someone was ordering 50 banners, I would expect the price to be lower than if they ordered one.

I still think $25 for a banner isn't all that strange. Someone will jump on it, make a quick $25 for an hour's work, get something to add to their portfolio, and maybe get some good word of mouth advertising from GoonX if he was happy with the service and the product.

And since Wylde is the best bar none, the pricing structure starts with him. ;) $45 per static banner. Everything else works down from that price. (for standard gif and jpgs, not counting your flash stuff

)

bhutocracy · 06-23-2002, 08:41 PM

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Originally posted by FATPad

True. If someone was ordering 50 banners, I would expect the price to be lower than if they ordered one.

I still think $25 for a banner isn't all that strange. Someone will jump on it, make a quick $25 for an hour's work, get something to add to their portfolio, and maybe get some good word of mouth advertising from GoonX if he was happy with the service and the product.

And since Wylde is the best bar none, the pricing structure starts with him. ;) $45 per static banner. Everything else works down from that price. (for standard gif and jpgs, not counting your flash stuff )

I don't think $25 for a banner is strange either. Took less than an hour for him to find someone... most likely several people, to do it at that price. And it is also about potential $ from word of mouth as well as the cold hard cash you get straight up.
I don't mean to step on anyone's toes here.. obviously what fletch and naughty are saying is very true.. just.. im surprised that $25 is really that low - I mean enough to jump on someone for it..$15-$20? sure, those are clip prices... but $25.. sorta scrapes through.. I thought anyway... maybe it's because im not busy with paid work today

. I mean the amount of times i've seen people come in here asking for freebies, or offering traffic or other sorts of things.. goon's offer looks fairly good.. i'd see it as a good thing that he didn't ask for people to jump through hoops for the candy..

Yeah everything starts with Wylde.. I didn't even include him in the spreadsheet I did when working out the market and my pricing structure

(but then again I also left out the $600 whole paysite guys as well so I still probably got the same average..)

06-23-2002, 10:47 AM	#1
Goonx Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,048	Designers - Make a quick $25 - Banner Design I need a banner designed (468x80) for TODAY. This is an important banner so I need it to look very professional and attractive. Don't contact me unless you have good experience in banner design. $25 by paypal , a good experienced designer can finish it very quickly, so I think thats fair for 1 banner. ICQ on sig. (If more than one designers will contact me than I'll ask to see some examples so I can choose a designer) Good designers will have plenty of projects from me in the future...

06-23-2002, 10:48 AM	#2
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	man - it just gets cheaper and cheaper........ __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

06-23-2002, 11:01 AM	#8
AdultWire Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 962	I'm getting tired of it. I still charge high profile customers $200- 500 for a serious well designed banner. Sometimes, I'll cut a deal if cash-flow is on pause, but this "$25 for a banner and I probably don't even have a stylecard" stuff is not my cup of tea. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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SetTheWorldonFire Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: California Posts: 7,444	Yeah, plus clients want their graphics done fast, yet they barely provide you with anything to work with. We're not fucking magicians, we're artists! __________________ www.STWOFDesign.com hit me up on icq 154206276 or Skype: JaimeGizzle

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AdultWire Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 962	Goonx.. I didn't really mean to bash you -- If you can get a good deal, more power to you. I started an image consulting company a few years ago, in hopes of bringing traditional design values to the web. Not Gonna Happen. The only companies that really understand quality design are the 5th percentile crew... They pay good money, but they spread their cash out amongst so many production houses -- well.. let's just say, we focus our design efforts on print & high end multimedia now. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

06-23-2002, 10:53 AM	#4
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	wow....banners used to be 40bux...what happnd?

06-23-2002, 10:58 AM	#7
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	this design/graphics cost shit is getting ridiculous.... UNION! UNION! UNION! UNION! UNION! UNION!

06-23-2002, 11:16 AM	#10
Goonx Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,048	That my price, If I can get it cheap, than why not...people don't get rich by spending all their money you know. I've had professional banners made for as low as $10 canadian. Unfortinatly these designers are off for the weekend. $25 is my price, and I'm sticking to it!!

06-23-2002, 11:40 AM	#16
Goonx Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,048	BTW: Job is taken. Thanx everybody, I saw some really cool examples.

06-23-2002, 11:50 AM	#19
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	Can you post the finished banner here. I wanna see what 25$ got ya. __________________ ..and I'm off.

06-23-2002, 11:54 AM	#21
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	hmmmmmmm lunch you say......i eat 25$ worth of extra flour tortilla's on my fajita's at the mexican joint I also smoke more than 25$ worth of herb when designing, im with ya on that fletch.

06-23-2002, 11:56 AM	#22
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06-23-2002, 11:57 AM	#24
Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	I personally think a banner worth $40 would have to be pretty damn unique, and pretty damn complex - with quick load time... $25 is more reasonable - but graphic designer could do 10 banners a day easily ($250) if they are experienced enough. Cheers, Matt

06-23-2002, 12:01 PM	#26
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	25$ sucky sucky by the way im not a designer...so i dunno what people charge...im just running my mouth.

06-23-2002, 12:11 PM	#28
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Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Sorry guys, Sunday is my day off and parts of my Westbank hood comin back, been drinkin early today. Missin them Marrero fools from the south, and one of my Gretna friends got shot a couple weeks back man... wrong day to be on the boards I guess. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

06-23-2002, 01:11 PM	#33
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06-23-2002, 04:08 PM	#38
InsaneMidget Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ontario Posts: 3,767	Did you ask sesame street's permission to use that elmo pic on your signature?

06-23-2002, 04:08 PM	#39
gaby Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 712	you guys can't wait to bash on his $25 banner.. can you? lol

06-23-2002, 04:09 PM	#40
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	24955222 best designer out there and best prices, he never advertises, thats how you know he's good, refferal only and I just reffered you

06-23-2002, 05:04 PM	#42
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	You guys crack me up. I find it hilarious when people say "nobody will do such and such for that amount of money!" News flash. There are tons of new designers around here trying to get a name, a small portfolio, and they need to pay their cable bill. They'll work for low prices, believe me, I've been there. What's it that hyper is always saying? Something like "mind your fucking business". If you have no intention of designing the banner, then STFU and move on. Simple as that. __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

06-23-2002, 08:09 PM	#46
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	$25 isn't that low for a single banner guys.. I reckon he got at least 10 offers.. not like he offered traffic or something

06-23-2002, 08:17 PM	#47
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	$25 really isn't that out of whack for a banner. It's not like he offered $5. Like someone else said, Wylde charges $45. How much do you guys think a banner is worth? __________________ <a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>