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Lester · 09-09-2006, 11:01 AM

Looking into getting anther dedicated box and keep seeing "Centos" as an operating system offered. A few even seem to "recommend" it as a primary OS choice.

What's the deal with Centos?
.....as compared to redhat, fedora, freebsd etc

Is it mainly a cost thing as Centos appears to be freely available?

Anyone using it?? Feedback?

Spudstr · 09-09-2006, 11:08 AM

CentOS is free. www.centos.org I have it loaded on several dedicateds for clients they love the system.

p4 2.8
1gb ram
160gb hdd
10mbps
CentOS
199 month

icq me

HorseShit · 09-09-2006, 11:10 AM

I still prefer FreeBSD

Spudstr · 09-09-2006, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdavis

I still prefer FreeBSD

As do I, but overall for Linux from my experiance i've had zero problems with CentOS.

linux has advantages over Freebsd due to the filesystems they use. Obviously different applications have different uses for the different file systems. its all about what you want out of life

baddog · 09-09-2006, 11:15 AM

We recommend CentOS as it plays nicely with the Direct Admin control panel

stickyfingerz · 09-09-2006, 11:16 AM

Yes as said above it seems to have the least amount of issues and problems.

Id be glad to discuss it further and come up with a quote for you on icq or phone.

chaze · 09-09-2006, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lester

Looking into getting anther dedicated box and keep seeing "Centos" as an operating system offered. A few even seem to "recommend" it as a primary OS choice.

What's the deal with Centos?
.....as compared to redhat, fedora, freebsd etc

Is it mainly a cost thing as Centos appears to be freely available?

Anyone using it?? Feedback?

Centos is the open source version of Red Hat Enterprise, it is the most compatible OS to date and works seamlessly with the main control panels like cpanel.

If the host can do some basic hardening it's a rock solid OS.

Free BSD is a great OS it's just not as up to date with what's needed for the newer control panels, hardware, and modules.

If you are still looking consider us we would love to provide you with a great server:

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69pornlinks · 09-09-2006, 11:22 AM

not to be confused with mentos 'the freshmaker'

Lester · 09-09-2006, 11:24 AM

....been lookin at the Centos website.....
think i'll download it and install it on an old server....

Won't need another box for aother month or so, so i'll deal with that then.
Was just wondering about the Centos thing.

Baddog, I think i first ran across it on "gotwebhost.com"
How was the gambling the other day?
Was thinking of poppin over but my schedule's been a wreck lately.
Hop, skip and a jump for me from the Loop....

Lester · 09-09-2006, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaze

If the host can do some basic hardening it's a rock solid OS.

What's considered "basic hardening" ?

I suspect most are fresh installs and anything else is extra.

baddog · 09-09-2006, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lester

Baddog, I think i first ran across it on "gotwebhost.com"
How was the gambling the other day?
Was thinking of poppin over but my schedule's been a wreck lately.
Hop, skip and a jump for me from the Loop....

I think Sandman left about a grand up, I left with a little more than I came with, and goodgirl and her husband contributed to the riverboat fund. Everyone had a great time, and dinner was great.

Hope we can eventually get some of you Chi Town webmasters out on one of my visits here

liquidmoe · 09-09-2006, 12:43 PM

FreeBSD is still the best choice in terms of security, although alot of it also depends on what applications you run and how your file systems are setup on either FreeBSD or Linux.

Linux overall is more current with support for hardware but for the most part if you arent on bleeding edge hardware the support for FreeBSD is one-two months off from product launch, especially if you stick to name-brand servers like DELL, etc.

Linux always requires more work to secure it and for the most part alot of installations also depend on how they are actually installed as they are a lot more bulky than FreeBSD, so although it is more compatible and better in a lot of regards, if you havent really researched how to tighten up security you will be quite vulnerable.

milan · 09-09-2006, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaze

Centos is the open source version of Red Hat Enterprise, it is the most compatible OS to date and works seamlessly with the main control panels like cpanel.

If the host can do some basic hardening it's a rock solid OS.

Free BSD is a great OS it's just not as up to date with what's needed for the newer control panels, hardware, and modules.

Ye what he said

bknoob · 09-09-2006, 02:15 PM

centos is an enterprise operating system that offers good support and security fixes for many years (even if they come out with newer versions).
fedora is a "free development" operating system and usually support and security patches for older versions are very limited when new versions come out.

in other words, fedora is best for your desktop... centos is best for dedicated servers (if we compared fedora vs centos).

CentOS is essentially RHEL except RHEL is not free.

Oh and FreeBSD is best if you know what you are doing but there are a lot of incompatible software for freebsd but nothing that cannot be fixed. FreeBSD has a steeper learning curve than redhat-based systems

chaze · 09-09-2006, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lester

What's considered "basic hardening" ?

I suspect most are fresh installs and anything else is extra.

It's a ancient Chinese secret.

Actually not really just check out this site they cover most of what needs to be done and yes unmanaged server have the default install and will most likely not last.

http://www.webhostinggear.com/

This site is kewl since it's break everything down in Lamond terms.

If you want more details I can explain more on this thread as well.

09-09-2006, 11:01 AM	#1
Lester Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 468	Hey webhosting companies...... Looking into getting anther dedicated box and keep seeing "Centos" as an operating system offered. A few even seem to "recommend" it as a primary OS choice. What's the deal with Centos? .....as compared to redhat, fedora, freebsd etc Is it mainly a cost thing as Centos appears to be freely available? Anyone using it?? Feedback? __________________ I have no sig...sigh

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Spudstr Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In a Tater Patch Posts: 2,321	CentOS is free. www.centos.org I have it loaded on several dedicateds for clients they love the system. p4 2.8 1gb ram 160gb hdd 10mbps CentOS 199 month icq me __________________ Managed Hosting - Colocation - Network Services Yellow Fiber Networks icq: 19876563

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Lester Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 468	....been lookin at the Centos website..... think i'll download it and install it on an old server.... Won't need another box for aother month or so, so i'll deal with that then. Was just wondering about the Centos thing. Baddog, I think i first ran across it on "gotwebhost.com" How was the gambling the other day? Was thinking of poppin over but my schedule's been a wreck lately. Hop, skip and a jump for me from the Loop.... __________________ I have no sig...sigh Last edited by Lester; 09-09-2006 at 11:27 AM..

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liquidmoe Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 4,994	FreeBSD is still the best choice in terms of security, although alot of it also depends on what applications you run and how your file systems are setup on either FreeBSD or Linux. Linux overall is more current with support for hardware but for the most part if you arent on bleeding edge hardware the support for FreeBSD is one-two months off from product launch, especially if you stick to name-brand servers like DELL, etc. Linux always requires more work to secure it and for the most part alot of installations also depend on how they are actually installed as they are a lot more bulky than FreeBSD, so although it is more compatible and better in a lot of regards, if you havent really researched how to tighten up security you will be quite vulnerable. __________________ Take Luck!

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HorseShit Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,513	I still prefer FreeBSD

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	We recommend CentOS as it plays nicely with the Direct Admin control panel

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stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,984	Yes as said above it seems to have the least amount of issues and problems. Id be glad to discuss it further and come up with a quote for you on icq or phone.

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bknoob Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,610	centos is an enterprise operating system that offers good support and security fixes for many years (even if they come out with newer versions). fedora is a "free development" operating system and usually support and security patches for older versions are very limited when new versions come out. in other words, fedora is best for your desktop... centos is best for dedicated servers (if we compared fedora vs centos). CentOS is essentially RHEL except RHEL is not free. Oh and FreeBSD is best if you know what you are doing but there are a lot of incompatible software for freebsd but nothing that cannot be fixed. FreeBSD has a steeper learning curve than redhat-based systems Last edited by bknoob; 09-09-2006 at 02:17 PM..