Cam guys: Are you happy with AWE 14 days cookie??? - GoFuckYourself.com

cocksy · 09-06-2006, 04:41 PM

I've been promoting cams for a couple of years now, and just recently I started promoting AWE. It seems that they convert great but since their cookies expire after 14 days I'm loosing a lot of money! There's no way I could even start to compare them with some other well know cam sites like Cams.com!

What are you thoughts on this?

Also, what is making you the most money with AWE right now? Rev-share or PPS? It seems that their PPS is very low when compared to some other promos out there.

Brujah · 09-06-2006, 04:43 PM

It sucks.

xanx · 09-06-2006, 04:45 PM

why not use a perm cookie like Ifriends ?

cocksy · 09-06-2006, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

It sucks.

And do you push them anyway? Because I was thinking of droping them as a cam sponsor because of this.

Aneros Josh · 09-06-2006, 04:47 PM

There's a male sextoy company I know that has lifetime cookies....see sig for more details

TheSwed · 09-06-2006, 04:48 PM

dont use them..14 days cookie is scam

Maxxx9000 · 09-06-2006, 04:54 PM

I'm not to fond of them either. I've been promoting them along with cams.com for a while when I first startet with webcams. And I got much better results with cams.com. So I would stick to cams.com if I were you??

SmokeyTheBear · 09-06-2006, 04:58 PM

awe's payout structure is set a certain way if it doesnt produce more money in the end than other cam sponsors than dont use them and use who makes you the most money. nobody wants you to lose money.. If you want to try and increase that revenue i'm more than glad to help.. for starters start cobranding .. i.e. buy a domain just for cams and setup a branded site so those surfers come back to your site to buy credits instead of only lasting 14 days..

tranza · 09-06-2006, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

awe's payout structure is set a certain way if it doesnt produce more money in the end than other cam sponsors than dont use them and use who makes you the most money. nobody wants you to lose money.. If you want to try and increase that revenue i'm more than glad to help.. for starters start cobranding .. i.e. buy a domain just for cams and setup a branded site so those surfers come back to your site to buy credits instead of only lasting 14 days..

Thanks for the tip!

TheSenator · 09-06-2006, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

awe's payout structure is set a certain way if it doesnt produce more money in the end than other cam sponsors than dont use them and use who makes you the most money. nobody wants you to lose money.. If you want to try and increase that revenue i'm more than glad to help.. for starters start cobranding .. i.e. buy a domain just for cams and setup a branded site so those surfers come back to your site to buy credits instead of only lasting 14 days..

That kinda crumples when you wanna buy different ads on major adult sites for a certain amount of time.

Bottonline... they should state that it is only a 14 day cookie in their terms.

Love Sex · 09-06-2006, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

awe for starters start cobranding .. i.e. buy a domain just for cams and setup a branded site so those surfers come back to your site to buy credits instead of only lasting 14 days..

For awe this most likely doesnt work because the person already has an account with them.

TheJimmy · 09-06-2006, 08:23 PM

What I'd love to see is cams.com getting their program to convert as well as AWE coupled with their much better long term revenue model.

I heard there was actually a thread a while back where one of the AWE names actually said that webmasters don't deserve to make revshare past 14 days. Hopefully that was a rumor and not true.

:/

Brujah · 09-07-2006, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

awe's payout structure is set a certain way if it doesnt produce more money in the end than other cam sponsors than dont use them and use who makes you the most money. nobody wants you to lose money.. If you want to try and increase that revenue i'm more than glad to help.. for starters start cobranding .. i.e. buy a domain just for cams and setup a branded site so those surfers come back to your site to buy credits instead of only lasting 14 days..

The sample I saw was not a true cobranded site, like cams.com offers at least. In that case, it's better to just use your domain name to create your own site and use their promo tools, etc.. your results will be much better.

Brujah · 09-07-2006, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJimmy

What I'd love to see is cams.com getting their program to convert as well as AWE coupled with their much better long term revenue model.

Exactly! What's the real reason that Cams.com can't meet or exceed AWE's conversions? Is it the software? AWE's streaming chat offers more tease and overall better? The processor?

Seems like all Cams.com has to do to gain ALL that marketshare is boost their conversions.

TheSenator · 09-07-2006, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJimmy

What I'd love to see is cams.com getting their program to convert as well as AWE coupled with their much better long term revenue model.

I heard there was actually a thread a while back where one of the AWE names actually said that webmasters don't deserve to make revshare past 14 days. Hopefully that was a rumor and not true.

:/

Here is the actual statement
https://gfy.com/9630655-post129.html

Here is the post.
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/594765-awempire-enlighten-please.html

Shame on webmaster who defend this kind of practice.

TheSenator · 09-07-2006, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

Exactly! What's the real reason that Cams.com can't meet or exceed AWE's conversions? Is it the software? AWE's streaming chat offers more tease and overall better? The processor?

Seems like all Cams.com has to do to gain ALL that marketshare is boost their conversions.

If Cams.com payout 30% lifetime I would promote them period.

John Marco · 09-07-2006, 07:40 AM

You guys probably don't realize expenses associated with cams:

40-50% for model payouts
12-15% for processing fees (including cb fees, txn fees, etc)
5%-7.5% for refunds (if you don't deduct it from models immediately)

That's 57-72.5% of gross revenue, which leaves 27.5% to 43% gross before affiliate payouts. So assume you pay 20%, this leaves 7.5% to 23% to cover all operating expenses and turn a small profit. Cam programs can't really pay 30% without some sort of catch to it if they want to be even mildly profitable which is probably why cams.com has a fair 20% payout.

Oh and I should mention that webcam sites require much more staff than a regular site because you have to have full time risk management/fraud preventation staff reviewing transactions. We have 3-4 people per shift, 24 hours per day doing this, for example, due to all of the fraud attempts from Eastern Europe and Asia

I hate to take up for the competition but this is simply the facts

dcortez · 09-07-2006, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xanx

why not use a perm cookie like Ifriends ?

I think the days of perm cookies are long gone in this biz

Marshal · 09-07-2006, 08:13 AM

is their cookie rewriteble?

TheSwed · 09-07-2006, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator

If Cams.com payout 30% lifetime I would promote them period.

Why dont try MooCash they have 7 camsites all with 30% revshare for LIFE

TheSwed · 09-07-2006, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator

If Cams.com payout 30% lifetime I would promote them period.

Why dont try MooCash they have 7 camsites all with 30% revshare for LIFE

Brujah · 09-07-2006, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nettrust

is their cookie rewriteble?

No. I think it's setup so that you can't overwrite the 14-day cookie. It's locked to whoever set it. Once it expires, then it's free to be written again.

Nancy M00re · 09-07-2006, 08:33 AM

You can make from 20% to 40% rev. for life with Pornication

Check it out

Brujah · 09-07-2006, 08:39 AM

No one's mentioned Peek Shows yet. They've been around a long long time and were pretty good.
http://www.peekscash.com/

thunder99 · 09-07-2006, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Marco

I hate to take up for the competition but this is simply the facts

I like people who don't knock the competion, it shows maturity.

tranza · 09-07-2006, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

No one's mentioned Peek Shows yet. They've been around a long long time and were pretty good.
http://www.peekscash.com/

Never heard of them before actually, I'll check them out for sure!

lazycash · 09-07-2006, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Marco

You guys probably don't realize expenses associated with cams:

40-50% for model payouts
12-15% for processing fees (including cb fees, txn fees, etc)
5%-7.5% for refunds (if you don't deduct it from models immediately)

That's 57-72.5% of gross revenue, which leaves 27.5% to 43% gross before affiliate payouts. So assume you pay 20%, this leaves 7.5% to 23% to cover all operating expenses and turn a small profit. Cam programs can't really pay 30% without some sort of catch to it if they want to be even mildly profitable which is probably why cams.com has a fair 20% payout.

Oh and I should mention that webcam sites require much more staff than a regular site because you have to have full time risk management/fraud preventation staff reviewing transactions. We have 3-4 people per shift, 24 hours per day doing this, for example, due to all of the fraud attempts from Eastern Europe and Asia

I hate to take up for the competition but this is simply the facts

I think most who promote cams realize this, but this really isn't the heart of the issue with AWE. I've been promoting cams solely for over 8 years and come across dozens of different programs and revshare has always implied for the life of the customer.

AWE has great sites, nice promo material and they convert. However, even after much scrutinization from the webmaster community over the last few months, they still fail to disclose the 14 day cookie in their program details to prospective webmasters. They exploit the fact that the overwhelming majority of adult webmasters promoting cams assume "revshare" means for the life of the customer. They are the only cam program I've found that has a revshare program where the webmaster doesn't get paid for the life of the customer.

I have no problem with them only wanting to pay out for 14 days, just make sure a webmaster looking to sign up is made aware of this and existing webmasters understand this by listing it as part of their program details. Its hilarious to listen to AWE's owner on this board complain that they only pay 14 days revshare because he believes that's all the webmaster deserves and because his margins are thin. Then turn around and invent the "live sex awards" and spend over a 500k promoting it with excessive prizes. Bottom line, its a shady practice to call something revshare and not disclose the 14 day payout to your webmasters.

Mighty Chin · 09-07-2006, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

Never heard of them before actually, I'll check them out for sure!

Yup we're one of the companies that make up the network and we kick ass on our conversions.

SmokeyTheBear · 09-07-2006, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love Sex

For awe this most likely doesnt work because the person already has an account with them.

doesnt matter you still get the sale if the cookie is tracked through you , regardless of who made the intial sale

SmokeyTheBear · 09-07-2006, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

No. I think it's setup so that you can't overwrite the 14-day cookie. It's locked to whoever set it. Once it expires, then it's free to be written again.

nah , that wouldn't work..

bl4h · 09-07-2006, 09:54 AM

i likw AWE. made $1100 off of 1900 uniques (81 sales) last period.
This period thus far 1:16 . 765 uniques 47 sales. Not to mention the good chance of winning the "pedal to the metal" raffle every persiod.

i cant do this with the other programs. Maybe its just me.

If youre an idiot you judge the book by its cover

sign up under me for good luck (see sig)

thehand · 09-07-2006, 10:14 AM

We pay 20% to 35% sliding scale, AND 50% on VIP members site. We offer every affiliate free content, however in many cases I can also provide to some affiliates, in certain situations, our premium content feeds, free of charge.

See sig & hit me up on that, if you have a productive pay site.

huey · 09-07-2006, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

Never heard of them before actually, I'll check them out for sure!

Have to throw this in. At Peekshows we charge $5 bucks plus per minute for a private show with our models. Our rev share is 20% lifetime, so this equals a buck a minute plus to the webmaster for life.
Some places offer more than 20% but of what $2 per minute?
Peeks has been around for 7 years and quietly is one of thew biggest and best cam sites out there.

dcortez · 09-07-2006, 12:22 PM

Any sponsor who does not pay percentage of sales for life time, should find a different term to label that program - using 'REV-SHARE' is misleading and contrary to what most affiliates understand it to mean.

If it's 14 days of rev-share, then call it '14 days of rev-share'.

We are not assuming that 'lifetime' has to be added to 'rev-share' to qualify it as such.

Kevsh · 09-07-2006, 12:33 PM

This topic has been debated here and elsewhere a lot already, but here's a few things to consider:

1) For the majority of traffic affiliates bring, the customer will spend the bulk of his total amount in the first 2 weeks of hitting the site.
2) AWE converts as well as any program out there.
3) The 30% base percentage is as high or higher than any of the major sites out there.
4) If you hit $1000 in gross sales in a 2-week period you get a 5% bonus. If you hit $5000 in gross, a 10% bonus.
5) Every pay period (twice per month) they give out from $100 to $2500 to affiliates in a random draw.
6) The free chat (no registration) seems to do very well and removes a barrier vs. many sites which require a credit card and email to enter the free rooms.

Put it all together, and you can easily see why they have so many affiliates despite the 14-day cookie.

I'd highly recommend giving it a shot and since you can see the usernames of your conversions, spend a small bit of time calculating the avg. lifetime payout you get per customer. Add to this any bonus you receive (divided obviously among all customers equally) and I'll bet you'd be pretty happy with the numbers.

And yes, the co-brand is one of many options to re-cookie customers you convert.

L0rdJuni0r · 09-07-2006, 12:50 PM

i hate the 14 day cookie. im gonna start pushing cams.com more...

Jarmusch · 09-07-2006, 12:52 PM

I'll continue promoting AWE.

They convert better and give you a higher percentage.

At the end of the day you make more money with them than with most webcam sponsors out there.

That's all that matters.

Brujah · 09-07-2006, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

nah , that wouldn't work..

I read it on their forum. You may want to check your info again.

Mighty Chin · 09-07-2006, 01:36 PM

I dont understand why would give up a Whale or for that matter a returning customer that spends hundreds if not thousands of dollars over the course of years. I got recurrings from customers I signed up from four years ago on adultwebcamworld/peekshows. Why would I give that up after two weeks. I'll take the long term money thank you very much.

SmokeyTheBear · 09-07-2006, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

I read it on their forum. You may want to check your info again.

i'm not questioning what you read or saw im just saying that it doesnt sound right in practise. ( i.e. that it wouldnt work like that or couldnt )

Elli · 09-07-2006, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thunder99

I like people who don't knock the competion, it shows maturity.

Agreed! Cheers, John Marco!

Brujah · 09-07-2006, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i'm not questioning what you read or saw im just saying that it doesnt sound right in practise. ( i.e. that it wouldnt work like that or couldnt )

It could work like that if they wanted it to.

Surfer visits the site. Tests for cookie, if exists.. it doesn't set one. If it doesn't exist, then it will attempt to set one.

John Marco · 09-07-2006, 04:29 PM

I don't really think this is any different than some other webcam programs advertising their sales as 'PPS' or 'per sign up' when it's really 'per $20+ purchase'

They say 30% so they can attract more webmasters because most webmasters fall for deceptively high payout figures

sex69 · 09-07-2006, 04:34 PM

I'll start pusing more traffic to Cams.com from now on.

dcortez · 09-08-2006, 08:58 AM

Sponsors can pay affiliates a share for as long or as short as they like - and affiliates may do very well by that.

But this issue is when misleading or not fully-disclosed terms are being applied.

'REV-SHARE' *means* for lifetime to most affiliates - don't mess with that (or get used to this kind of blowback)!

Xenophage · 05-14-2007, 06:19 PM

I am going to launch a competeating cookie based system.

tranza · 05-14-2007, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

I am going to launch a competeating cookie based system.

Are you having fun bumping all these threads??

AK · 05-15-2007, 10:07 AM

we have no cookies, we pay per free leads, pps, revshare amn we tracked the users for life! we're pretty new.. and we like work with you ! please hit me up.

09-06-2006, 04:41 PM	#1
cocksy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Brazil Posts: 84	Cam guys: Are you happy with AWE 14 days cookie??? I've been promoting cams for a couple of years now, and just recently I started promoting AWE. It seems that they convert great but since their cookies expire after 14 days I'm loosing a lot of money! There's no way I could even start to compare them with some other well know cam sites like Cams.com! What are you thoughts on this? Also, what is making you the most money with AWE right now? Rev-share or PPS? It seems that their PPS is very low when compared to some other promos out there. __________________ No sig right now. Thanks for looking though.

09-06-2006, 04:43 PM	#2
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09-06-2006, 04:48 PM	#6
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09-06-2006, 04:54 PM	#7
Maxxx9000 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 1,082	I'm not to fond of them either. I've been promoting them along with cams.com for a while when I first startet with webcams. And I got much better results with cams.com. So I would stick to cams.com if I were you?? __________________ Cams.com paid for my car - Love you guys

09-06-2006, 04:58 PM	#8
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	awe's payout structure is set a certain way if it doesnt produce more money in the end than other cam sponsors than dont use them and use who makes you the most money. nobody wants you to lose money.. If you want to try and increase that revenue i'm more than glad to help.. for starters start cobranding .. i.e. buy a domain just for cams and setup a branded site so those surfers come back to your site to buy credits instead of only lasting 14 days.. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

09-06-2006, 04:45 PM	#3
xanx Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,711	why not use a perm cookie like Ifriends ?

09-06-2006, 04:47 PM	#5
Aneros Josh Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,038	There's a male sextoy company I know that has lifetime cookies....see sig for more details

09-06-2006, 08:23 PM	#12
TheJimmy ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0 Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,747	What I'd love to see is cams.com getting their program to convert as well as AWE coupled with their much better long term revenue model. I heard there was actually a thread a while back where one of the AWE names actually said that webmasters don't deserve to make revshare past 14 days. Hopefully that was a rumor and not true. :/ __________________ Investor with 5m - 15m USD to invest. Do you have a site or network of sites earning 50k - 200k a month income? Email your contact and preliminary data to: domain.cashventures (at) gmail.com....Please...no tire kickers...serious offers and inquiries only. Last edited by TheJimmy; 09-06-2006 at 08:24 PM..

09-07-2006, 07:40 AM	#17
John Marco Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 912	You guys probably don't realize expenses associated with cams: 40-50% for model payouts 12-15% for processing fees (including cb fees, txn fees, etc) 5%-7.5% for refunds (if you don't deduct it from models immediately) That's 57-72.5% of gross revenue, which leaves 27.5% to 43% gross before affiliate payouts. So assume you pay 20%, this leaves 7.5% to 23% to cover all operating expenses and turn a small profit. Cam programs can't really pay 30% without some sort of catch to it if they want to be even mildly profitable which is probably why cams.com has a fair 20% payout. Oh and I should mention that webcam sites require much more staff than a regular site because you have to have full time risk management/fraud preventation staff reviewing transactions. We have 3-4 people per shift, 24 hours per day doing this, for example, due to all of the fraud attempts from Eastern Europe and Asia I hate to take up for the competition but this is simply the facts __________________ WEBCAMS.COM $42+ PPS or revshare ICQ: 476-111 Google Talk: Webcams.com Last edited by John Marco; 09-07-2006 at 07:42 AM..

09-07-2006, 08:13 AM	#19
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09-07-2006, 08:33 AM	#23
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09-07-2006, 08:39 AM	#24
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	No one's mentioned Peek Shows yet. They've been around a long long time and were pretty good. http://www.peekscash.com/ __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

09-07-2006, 09:54 AM	#31
bl4h Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1,282	i likw AWE. made $1100 off of 1900 uniques (81 sales) last period. This period thus far 1:16 . 765 uniques 47 sales. Not to mention the good chance of winning the "pedal to the metal" raffle every persiod. i cant do this with the other programs. Maybe its just me. If youre an idiot you judge the book by its cover sign up under me for good luck (see sig)

09-07-2006, 10:14 AM	#32
thehand 235 Pound Gorilla Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Valhalla Posts: 3,467	We pay 20% to 35% sliding scale, AND 50% on VIP members site. We offer every affiliate free content, however in many cases I can also provide to some affiliates, in certain situations, our premium content feeds, free of charge. See sig & hit me up on that, if you have a productive pay site. __________________ Tim Siner Who the Fu#k is TimSiner?

09-07-2006, 12:22 PM	#34
dcortez DINO CORTEZ™ Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 2,145	Any sponsor who does not pay percentage of sales for life time, should find a different term to label that program - using 'REV-SHARE' is misleading and contrary to what most affiliates understand it to mean. If it's 14 days of rev-share, then call it '14 days of rev-share'. We are not assuming that 'lifetime' has to be added to 'rev-share' to qualify it as such.

09-07-2006, 12:33 PM	#35
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	This topic has been debated here and elsewhere a lot already, but here's a few things to consider: 1) For the majority of traffic affiliates bring, the customer will spend the bulk of his total amount in the first 2 weeks of hitting the site. 2) AWE converts as well as any program out there. 3) The 30% base percentage is as high or higher than any of the major sites out there. 4) If you hit $1000 in gross sales in a 2-week period you get a 5% bonus. If you hit $5000 in gross, a 10% bonus. 5) Every pay period (twice per month) they give out from $100 to $2500 to affiliates in a random draw. 6) The free chat (no registration) seems to do very well and removes a barrier vs. many sites which require a credit card and email to enter the free rooms. Put it all together, and you can easily see why they have so many affiliates despite the 14-day cookie. I'd highly recommend giving it a shot and since you can see the usernames of your conversions, spend a small bit of time calculating the avg. lifetime payout you get per customer. Add to this any bonus you receive (divided obviously among all customers equally) and I'll bet you'd be pretty happy with the numbers. And yes, the co-brand is one of many options to re-cookie customers you convert.

09-07-2006, 12:50 PM	#36
L0rdJuni0r Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cancun, Mexico Posts: 5,883	i hate the 14 day cookie. im gonna start pushing cams.com more... __________________ Affordable video and picture editing. junior[at]jampackproductions[DOT]com ICQ: 605429331

09-07-2006, 12:52 PM	#37
Jarmusch Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 12,464	I'll continue promoting AWE. They convert better and give you a higher percentage. At the end of the day you make more money with them than with most webcam sponsors out there. That's all that matters.

09-07-2006, 01:36 PM	#39
Mighty Chin Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Burnaby BC Posts: 781	I dont understand why would give up a Whale or for that matter a returning customer that spends hundreds if not thousands of dollars over the course of years. I got recurrings from customers I signed up from four years ago on adultwebcamworld/peekshows. Why would I give that up after two weeks. I'll take the long term money thank you very much. __________________ Do you need design work done. I am available check out my site TMC Web Designs

09-07-2006, 04:29 PM	#43
John Marco Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 912	I don't really think this is any different than some other webcam programs advertising their sales as 'PPS' or 'per sign up' when it's really 'per $20+ purchase' They say 30% so they can attract more webmasters because most webmasters fall for deceptively high payout figures __________________ WEBCAMS.COM $42+ PPS or revshare ICQ: 476-111 Google Talk: Webcams.com

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09-08-2006, 08:58 AM	#45
dcortez DINO CORTEZ™ Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 2,145	Sponsors can pay affiliates a share for as long or as short as they like - and affiliates may do very well by that. But this issue is when misleading or not fully-disclosed terms are being applied. 'REV-SHARE' means for lifetime to most affiliates - don't mess with that (or get used to this kind of blowback)!

05-14-2007, 06:19 PM	#46
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	I am going to launch a competeating cookie based system.

05-15-2007, 10:07 AM	#48
AK MadZuma Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California Posts: 6,436	we have no cookies, we pay per free leads, pps, revshare amn we tracked the users for life! we're pretty new.. and we like work with you ! please hit me up. __________________ Alfonsus Kusuma (AK) ak at madzuma.com skype me - alfonsus.com