Scripts - Locked to one domain - Is this fair? - GoFuckYourself.com

Adult Warden · 09-03-2006, 11:07 PM

I am going thru a situation now involving a $800 script...I bought some sites and one comes with a script that I don't need on that domain...but I'm not allowed to transfer it to another domain...While either way having to pay the $50 transfer fee...

This is my evening rant...Anyone agree? Your paying for the license to use it once on a domain...I understand locking it to one domain for security...But if you want to transfer it to another one...You should fucken be able to...

Spunky · 09-03-2006, 11:09 PM

50 bucks for a transfer seems reasonable..most charge atleast 100..it's a standard

Doctor Dre · 09-03-2006, 11:09 PM

Yep that fucking sucks ... makes the whole operation

madawgz · 09-03-2006, 11:11 PM

its just 50$ compared to the 800 no?

a little bump in the road

Adult Warden · 09-03-2006, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky

50 bucks for a transfer seems reasonable..most charge atleast 100..it's a standard

Let me clarify...

$50 to move the script from the previous server to a new server only with the same domain...

I am not allowed to transfer the script from domaina.com to domainb.com

Trax · 09-03-2006, 11:19 PM

its 100 on ucj
that is live

define the word "fair" anyways lol

Spunky · 09-03-2006, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adult Warden

Let me clarify...

$50 to move the script from the previous server to a new server only with the same domain...

I am not allowed to transfer the script from domaina.com to domainb.com

Is it Brownie?

kaori · 09-04-2006, 12:22 AM

Yeah.. I don't think it's fair..
I'd understand if you were selling it to another user...
but charing that to move between your own is a little unsavoury... that being said, it's pretty common..

shake · 09-04-2006, 12:42 AM

I think 50 is fair - I'm sure it takes them some time and effort to change their records and send you a new licence file etc. They are in business to make money after all. Any more than that starts to get a little silly though

dcortez · 09-04-2006, 12:57 AM

The real issue is: were you aware of the $50 transfer fee before you agreed to the license?

If so, 'fair' has nothing to do with it - those were the terms of your deal.

If it was a hidden kicker, that may be different, although due diligence should have uncovered it *before* making the deal.

Adult Warden · 09-04-2006, 08:58 AM

To the 2 posts above mine...

Please read my clarification

I am argueing the fact that I can't transfer the license to another domain...It is locked to only that domain...

I am fine with the $50

BlueWire · 09-04-2006, 09:04 AM

What does fair have to do with it? The license is what it is and you are well aware of that when you make the purchase?

fris · 09-04-2006, 09:21 AM

thats how they make money, script only allowed to be use on 1 domain, if you bought comus or smart thumbs and was allowed on unlimited domains, they would be losing out. thats why its 200 per domain, then goes down in price when you buy more.

gooddomains · 09-04-2006, 09:29 AM

that's how it works nowadays

Lycanthrope · 09-04-2006, 09:45 AM

Another reason to use JMB - easy no hassle license changes

Brujah · 09-04-2006, 09:51 AM

Yes, that sucks.. if it's something you could just do yourself. $50 seems pretty fair if it's extra work they will have to do for you tho.

BlueWire · 09-04-2006, 10:05 AM

Don't people get it?

If the software companies can't make enough money off their software you guys won't have software to use

Spending more than 2 seconds of your time worrying about such a thing is rediculous in my book

Brujah · 09-04-2006, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueWire

Don't people get it?

If the software companies can't make enough money off their software you guys won't have software to use

Spending more than 2 seconds of your time worrying about such a thing is rediculous in my book

True, we'd be stuck with pieces of shit software like Linux.. and all the other crap over at Sourceforge.

thunder99 · 09-04-2006, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueWire

Don't people get it?

If the software companies can't make enough money off their software you guys won't have software to use

Spending more than 2 seconds of your time worrying about such a thing is rediculous in my book

Well you would say that, seeing as you sell scripts.

SmokeyTheBear · 09-04-2006, 10:55 AM

The $50 fee is for the transfer ( not unfair price ) the reason why they cant allow domain changes is because they prob hardcode the domains in some sort of list to check for illegal copies running. the people who run the service likely cant recode it to allow changes .. it shouldnt be hard to change but if you did know beforehand its not really a scam , just more of an annoyance..

Supz · 09-04-2006, 10:56 AM

Im suprised how many people cant read. I agree, it sucks!

minusonebit · 09-04-2006, 10:59 AM

If you dont like the terms of the license, dont buy/dont use the script.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

True, we'd be stuck with pieces of shit software like Linux.. and all the other crap over at Sourceforge.

You get what you pay for. And Sourceforge has some GREAT scripts that do an amazing job. If you want someone to hold your wee wee while you pee, Bill Gates is your man.

crockett · 09-04-2006, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lycanthrope

Another reason to use JMB - easy no hassle license changes

lol yea you have to buy a new license as they don't allow transfers..

However to give them credit they don't charge a lot for their scripts so it's less to buy a new copy of one of JMBsoft's scripts than it is to pay for a transfer of most ather scripts.

Klen · 09-04-2006, 11:02 AM

Well that is just big security measures.So you cant nullify them.

Monstaman · 09-04-2006, 11:02 AM

Sucks you should be able to move it to another domain for a price ...

Doctor Dre · 09-04-2006, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcortez

The real issue is: were you aware of the $50 transfer fee before you agreed to the license?

If so, 'fair' has nothing to do with it - those were the terms of your deal.

If it was a hidden kicker, that may be different, although due diligence should have uncovered it *before* making the deal.

you didn't read it.

There is no transfer fee.

Let'S Say we bouht a whole network of site and a script was used. We don't wanna use this script on the specific domain it was in use. Even if the transfer fee was $200 it wouldn't matter. They just won't transfer it at all.

Brujah · 09-04-2006, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit

If you dont like the terms of the license, dont buy/dont use the script.

You get what you pay for. And Sourceforge has some GREAT scripts that do an amazing job. If you want someone to hold your wee wee while you pee, Bill Gates is your man.

I was being sarcastic, as usual

Doctor Dre · 09-04-2006, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

The $50 fee is for the transfer ( not unfair price ) the reason why they cant allow domain changes is because they prob hardcode the domains in some sort of list to check for illegal copies running. the people who run the service likely cant recode it to allow changes .. it shouldnt be hard to change but if you did know beforehand its not really a scam , just more of an annoyance..

That's not the case.
They just won't allow you to transfer the domain from domain A to domain B at all.
You have to stick with one domain.
I can tottally understand a transfer fee.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fris

thats how they make money, script only allowed to be use on 1 domain, if you bought comus or smart thumbs and was allowed on unlimited domains, they would be losing out. thats why its 200 per domain, then goes down in price when you buy more.

Yes obviously. But they just don't allow you to transfer your liscence from one domain to another.

It's not like he's trying to use it at two different places.

jimthefiend · 09-04-2006, 11:10 AM

This is like whining about the terms of a content purchase.

SmokeyTheBear · 09-04-2006, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

There is no transfer fee.

there is a transfer fee its $50 but its only for transfering from the same domain to a diff server. seems to me he is saying they just dont allow transfers between domains .. its likely a security issue ( and a $$ issue ) , and while it does suck its not really unfair because he knew that when he purchased the script. like going into a movie theatre with your own candy, they haven't technically "lost $$" by you bringing in your own candy but they have lost the ability to "upsell" you their inflated candy and popcorn

dcortez · 09-04-2006, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

you didn't read it.

There is no transfer fee.

Let'S Say we bouht a whole network of site and a script was used. We don't wanna use this script on the specific domain it was in use. Even if the transfer fee was $200 it wouldn't matter. They just won't transfer it at all.

I'm busted

I did not get the part that there is NO facility to transfer regardless of the fee - my bad.

In that case, that should have been negotiated ahead of time.

I've developed custom vertical market apps for mainstream where the transfer fee was $1K per software package.

If the solution was designed with upscaling and migration in mind, then that should have been in the deal. If there was no foresight into changing domains, then it really depends on how kludgy the code is.

It's hard to imagine software developed (even in RAD mode) not facilitating something as simple as a domain change. Did they actually hard code the domain?

Get out the marinara sauce - spagetti code always tastes better with it.

Vendzilla · 09-04-2006, 06:45 PM

with comusthumbs you have to generate a new license for a domain change, this keeps people from bootlegging, sorry that you have to spend money in this business

flashbang · 09-05-2006, 11:06 AM

It's fair, as long as its specified, if not anyone can buy the script, install it on domain, sell site for $500, change license prior to another domain and ripoff company.

Lot's of paperwork and bs to handle to make sure this is not happening, hence the $50 fee...

If you bought a site, you should always research the included software
and licensing terms.

09-03-2006, 11:07 PM	#1
Adult Warden So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,822	Scripts - Locked to one domain - Is this fair? I am going thru a situation now involving a $800 script...I bought some sites and one comes with a script that I don't need on that domain...but I'm not allowed to transfer it to another domain...While either way having to pay the $50 transfer fee... This is my evening rant...Anyone agree? Your paying for the license to use it once on a domain...I understand locking it to one domain for security...But if you want to transfer it to another one...You should fucken be able to...

09-03-2006, 11:09 PM	#2
Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,949	50 bucks for a transfer seems reasonable..most charge atleast 100..it's a standard __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*

09-03-2006, 11:11 PM	#4
madawgz 8.8.8.8 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noordermarkt Posts: 30,509	its just 50$ compared to the 800 no? a little bump in the road __________________ TAEMDLRMSKRJIXMRLSMRJ.

09-04-2006, 12:42 AM	#9
shake frc Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bitcoin wallet Posts: 4,663	I think 50 is fair - I'm sure it takes them some time and effort to change their records and send you a new licence file etc. They are in business to make money after all. Any more than that starts to get a little silly though __________________ Crazy fast VPS for $10 a month. Try with $20 free credit

09-04-2006, 09:21 AM	#13
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	thats how they make money, script only allowed to be use on 1 domain, if you bought comus or smart thumbs and was allowed on unlimited domains, they would be losing out. thats why its 200 per domain, then goes down in price when you buy more. __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

09-03-2006, 11:19 PM	#6
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	its 100 on ucj that is live define the word "fair" anyways lol

09-04-2006, 12:22 AM	#8
kaori Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,569	Yeah.. I don't think it's fair.. I'd understand if you were selling it to another user... but charing that to move between your own is a little unsavoury... that being said, it's pretty common..

09-04-2006, 12:57 AM	#10
dcortez DINO CORTEZ™ Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 2,145	The real issue is: were you aware of the $50 transfer fee before you agreed to the license? If so, 'fair' has nothing to do with it - those were the terms of your deal. If it was a hidden kicker, that may be different, although due diligence should have uncovered it before making the deal.

09-04-2006, 08:58 AM	#11
Adult Warden So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,822	To the 2 posts above mine... Please read my clarification I am argueing the fact that I can't transfer the license to another domain...It is locked to only that domain... I am fine with the $50

09-04-2006, 09:04 AM	#12
BlueWire Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,628	What does fair have to do with it? The license is what it is and you are well aware of that when you make the purchase?

09-04-2006, 09:29 AM	#14
gooddomains Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 10,127	that's how it works nowadays

09-04-2006, 09:45 AM	#15
Lycanthrope Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 4,517	Another reason to use JMB - easy no hassle license changes __________________

09-04-2006, 09:51 AM	#16
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Yes, that sucks.. if it's something you could just do yourself. $50 seems pretty fair if it's extra work they will have to do for you tho. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

09-04-2006, 10:05 AM	#17
BlueWire Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,628	Don't people get it? If the software companies can't make enough money off their software you guys won't have software to use Spending more than 2 seconds of your time worrying about such a thing is rediculous in my book

09-04-2006, 10:55 AM	#20
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	The $50 fee is for the transfer ( not unfair price ) the reason why they cant allow domain changes is because they prob hardcode the domains in some sort of list to check for illegal copies running. the people who run the service likely cant recode it to allow changes .. it shouldnt be hard to change but if you did know beforehand its not really a scam , just more of an annoyance.. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

09-04-2006, 10:56 AM	#21
Supz Arthur Flegenheimer Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 11,057	Im suprised how many people cant read. I agree, it sucks!

09-04-2006, 11:02 AM	#24
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Well that is just big security measures.So you cant nullify them.

09-04-2006, 11:02 AM	#25
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09-04-2006, 11:10 AM	#29
jimthefiend So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: icq: 121189 Posts: 18,889	This is like whining about the terms of a content purchase.

09-04-2006, 06:45 PM	#32
Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,200	with comusthumbs you have to generate a new license for a domain change, this keeps people from bootlegging, sorry that you have to spend money in this business __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

09-05-2006, 11:06 AM	#33
flashbang Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 767	It's fair, as long as its specified, if not anyone can buy the script, install it on domain, sell site for $500, change license prior to another domain and ripoff company. Lot's of paperwork and bs to handle to make sure this is not happening, hence the $50 fee... If you bought a site, you should always research the included software and licensing terms. __________________ Your TGP traffic belongs to you again \| X Rated Words & Hard Links