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Adult Warden 09-03-2006 11:07 PM

Scripts - Locked to one domain - Is this fair?
 
I am going thru a situation now involving a $800 script...I bought some sites and one comes with a script that I don't need on that domain...but I'm not allowed to transfer it to another domain...While either way having to pay the $50 transfer fee...

This is my evening rant...Anyone agree? Your paying for the license to use it once on a domain...I understand locking it to one domain for security...But if you want to transfer it to another one...You should fucken be able to...

:disgust

Spunky 09-03-2006 11:09 PM

50 bucks for a transfer seems reasonable..most charge atleast 100..it's a standard

Doctor Dre 09-03-2006 11:09 PM

Yep that fucking sucks ... makes the whole operation

madawgz 09-03-2006 11:11 PM

its just 50$ compared to the 800 no?

a little bump in the road :2 cents:

Adult Warden 09-03-2006 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky
50 bucks for a transfer seems reasonable..most charge atleast 100..it's a standard

Let me clarify...

$50 to move the script from the previous server to a new server only with the same domain...

I am not allowed to transfer the script from domaina.com to domainb.com

Trax 09-03-2006 11:19 PM

its 100 on ucj
that is live

define the word "fair" anyways lol

Spunky 09-03-2006 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adult Warden
Let me clarify...

$50 to move the script from the previous server to a new server only with the same domain...

I am not allowed to transfer the script from domaina.com to domainb.com

Is it Brownie?

kaori 09-04-2006 12:22 AM

Yeah.. I don't think it's fair..
I'd understand if you were selling it to another user...
but charing that to move between your own is a little unsavoury... that being said, it's pretty common..

shake 09-04-2006 12:42 AM

I think 50 is fair - I'm sure it takes them some time and effort to change their records and send you a new licence file etc. They are in business to make money after all. Any more than that starts to get a little silly though

dcortez 09-04-2006 12:57 AM

The real issue is: were you aware of the $50 transfer fee before you agreed to the license?

If so, 'fair' has nothing to do with it - those were the terms of your deal.

If it was a hidden kicker, that may be different, although due diligence should have uncovered it *before* making the deal.

Adult Warden 09-04-2006 08:58 AM

To the 2 posts above mine...

Please read my clarification :)

I am argueing the fact that I can't transfer the license to another domain...It is locked to only that domain...

I am fine with the $50

BlueWire 09-04-2006 09:04 AM

What does fair have to do with it? The license is what it is and you are well aware of that when you make the purchase?

fris 09-04-2006 09:21 AM

thats how they make money, script only allowed to be use on 1 domain, if you bought comus or smart thumbs and was allowed on unlimited domains, they would be losing out. thats why its 200 per domain, then goes down in price when you buy more.

gooddomains 09-04-2006 09:29 AM

that's how it works nowadays

Lycanthrope 09-04-2006 09:45 AM

Another reason to use JMB - easy no hassle license changes :thumbsup

Brujah 09-04-2006 09:51 AM

Yes, that sucks.. if it's something you could just do yourself. $50 seems pretty fair if it's extra work they will have to do for you tho.

BlueWire 09-04-2006 10:05 AM

Don't people get it?

If the software companies can't make enough money off their software you guys won't have software to use :helpme

Spending more than 2 seconds of your time worrying about such a thing is rediculous in my book :thumbsup

Brujah 09-04-2006 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueWire
Don't people get it?

If the software companies can't make enough money off their software you guys won't have software to use :helpme

Spending more than 2 seconds of your time worrying about such a thing is rediculous in my book :thumbsup

True, we'd be stuck with pieces of shit software like Linux.. and all the other crap over at Sourceforge.

thunder99 09-04-2006 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueWire
Don't people get it?

If the software companies can't make enough money off their software you guys won't have software to use :helpme

Spending more than 2 seconds of your time worrying about such a thing is rediculous in my book :thumbsup

Well you would say that, seeing as you sell scripts.

SmokeyTheBear 09-04-2006 10:55 AM

The $50 fee is for the transfer ( not unfair price ) the reason why they cant allow domain changes is because they prob hardcode the domains in some sort of list to check for illegal copies running. the people who run the service likely cant recode it to allow changes .. it shouldnt be hard to change but if you did know beforehand its not really a scam , just more of an annoyance..

Supz 09-04-2006 10:56 AM

Im suprised how many people cant read. I agree, it sucks!

minusonebit 09-04-2006 10:59 AM

If you dont like the terms of the license, dont buy/dont use the script.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
True, we'd be stuck with pieces of shit software like Linux.. and all the other crap over at Sourceforge.

You get what you pay for. And Sourceforge has some GREAT scripts that do an amazing job. If you want someone to hold your wee wee while you pee, Bill Gates is your man.

crockett 09-04-2006 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lycanthrope
Another reason to use JMB - easy no hassle license changes :thumbsup


lol yea you have to buy a new license as they don't allow transfers.. :error However to give them credit they don't charge a lot for their scripts so it's less to buy a new copy of one of JMBsoft's scripts than it is to pay for a transfer of most ather scripts.

Klen 09-04-2006 11:02 AM

Well that is just big security measures.So you cant nullify them.

Monstaman 09-04-2006 11:02 AM

Sucks you should be able to move it to another domain for a price ...

Doctor Dre 09-04-2006 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcortez
The real issue is: were you aware of the $50 transfer fee before you agreed to the license?

If so, 'fair' has nothing to do with it - those were the terms of your deal.

If it was a hidden kicker, that may be different, although due diligence should have uncovered it *before* making the deal.

you didn't read it.

There is no transfer fee.

Let'S Say we bouht a whole network of site and a script was used. We don't wanna use this script on the specific domain it was in use. Even if the transfer fee was $200 it wouldn't matter. They just won't transfer it at all.

Brujah 09-04-2006 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit
If you dont like the terms of the license, dont buy/dont use the script.



You get what you pay for. And Sourceforge has some GREAT scripts that do an amazing job. If you want someone to hold your wee wee while you pee, Bill Gates is your man.

I was being sarcastic, as usual :winkwink:

Doctor Dre 09-04-2006 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
The $50 fee is for the transfer ( not unfair price ) the reason why they cant allow domain changes is because they prob hardcode the domains in some sort of list to check for illegal copies running. the people who run the service likely cant recode it to allow changes .. it shouldnt be hard to change but if you did know beforehand its not really a scam , just more of an annoyance..

That's not the case.
They just won't allow you to transfer the domain from domain A to domain B at all.
You have to stick with one domain.
I can tottally understand a transfer fee.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Fris
thats how they make money, script only allowed to be use on 1 domain, if you bought comus or smart thumbs and was allowed on unlimited domains, they would be losing out. thats why its 200 per domain, then goes down in price when you buy more.

Yes obviously. But they just don't allow you to transfer your liscence from one domain to another.

It's not like he's trying to use it at two different places.

jimthefiend 09-04-2006 11:10 AM

This is like whining about the terms of a content purchase.

SmokeyTheBear 09-04-2006 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
There is no transfer fee.

there is a transfer fee its $50 but its only for transfering from the same domain to a diff server. seems to me he is saying they just dont allow transfers between domains .. its likely a security issue ( and a $$ issue ) , and while it does suck its not really unfair because he knew that when he purchased the script. like going into a movie theatre with your own candy, they haven't technically "lost $$" by you bringing in your own candy but they have lost the ability to "upsell" you their inflated candy and popcorn :)

dcortez 09-04-2006 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
you didn't read it.

There is no transfer fee.

Let'S Say we bouht a whole network of site and a script was used. We don't wanna use this script on the specific domain it was in use. Even if the transfer fee was $200 it wouldn't matter. They just won't transfer it at all.

I'm busted :)

I did not get the part that there is NO facility to transfer regardless of the fee - my bad.

In that case, that should have been negotiated ahead of time.

I've developed custom vertical market apps for mainstream where the transfer fee was $1K per software package.

If the solution was designed with upscaling and migration in mind, then that should have been in the deal. If there was no foresight into changing domains, then it really depends on how kludgy the code is.

It's hard to imagine software developed (even in RAD mode) not facilitating something as simple as a domain change. Did they actually hard code the domain?

Get out the marinara sauce - spagetti code always tastes better with it.

Vendzilla 09-04-2006 06:45 PM

with comusthumbs you have to generate a new license for a domain change, this keeps people from bootlegging, sorry that you have to spend money in this business

flashbang 09-05-2006 11:06 AM

It's fair, as long as its specified, if not anyone can buy the script, install it on domain, sell site for $500, change license prior to another domain and ripoff company.

Lot's of paperwork and bs to handle to make sure this is not happening, hence the $50 fee...

If you bought a site, you should always research the included software
and licensing terms.


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