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Old 09-03-2006, 11:55 AM   #1
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More about the Moon: Europe FINALLY gets there?

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,...154966,00.html

So, in the year 2006, decades after the US supposedly lands someone on the moon, Europe finally crash lands a probe on the moon. And it took the probe 3 years to get there.

I don't really know what to think of this. Kinda weird, if you ask me. What do you think?
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Old 09-03-2006, 12:07 PM   #2
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I've always believed we actually landed on the moon. But articles like this make me scratch my head... In this age of technology, why has it taken Europe so long to get there for the first time? And why did it take 3 years to get from Earth to the moon?
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Old 09-03-2006, 12:09 PM   #3
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Not really sure what it is you think is weird about this?

Sounds to me like it spent 3 years doing experiments with new technology and then did a controled crash landing onto the surface of the moon.

I mean the new thrust technolgy they used is interesting if you research it, but other than that whats of interest in this story?
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Old 09-03-2006, 12:11 PM   #4
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Not really sure what it is you think is weird about this?

Sounds to me like it spent 3 years doing experiments with new technology and then did a controled crash landing onto the surface of the moon.

I mean the new thrust technolgy they used is interesting if you research it, but other than that whats of interest in this story?
Just thought it was interesting that this is the first time Europe has hit the moon, that's all. It's been decades since we landed on it. Now Europe is getting there for the first time, but even so it's just a probe crashing.
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Old 09-03-2006, 12:14 PM   #5
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Just thought it was interesting that this is the first time Europe has hit the moon, that's all. It's been decades since we landed on it. Now Europe is getting there for the first time, but even so it's just a probe crashing.


Yeah thats what my point was. Doesn't sound to me like the goal was to "get to the moon" it sounds more like they hope to reach Mars with this new thruster thing they have come up with. And they spent 3 years testing it out.

The probe itself they used was pretty cool in size and capacity though, plus the teenie tiny budget they worked with (compared with NASA) is pretty impressive as well.
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Old 09-03-2006, 12:27 PM   #6
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Old 09-03-2006, 12:37 PM   #7
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As if the US ever landed on the moon......
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Old 09-03-2006, 01:50 PM   #8
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Old 09-03-2006, 01:57 PM   #9
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As if the US ever landed on the moon......
They setup laser reflectors on the moon. You can still bounce lasers off them today.

"Armstrong and Aldrin worked on the lunar surface for about 2 hours and 30 minutes. Their work included the collection of 48 lbs (22 kg) of rock samples and setting up a solar wind experiment, a seismometer to detect moonquakes, and a laser reflector. The laser reflector reflected pulses of laser light fired from the earth. This allowed scientists to make very accurate measurements of the distance between the earth and the moon. Eagle lifted off and rejoined Columbia after just 21 hours and 30 minutes on the lunar surface. The Apollo 11 crew returned to Earth on July 24, splashing down in the Pacific Ocean about about 810 mi (1300 km) southeast of Hawaii."

http://library.thinkquest.org/J01121..._armstrong.htm
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Old 09-03-2006, 01:59 PM   #10
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Oh, and I suppose Armstrong and Aldrin and just a couple guys who are bad to lie about the whole thing.

There is always the risk of a leak.. so they must be robots
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Old 09-03-2006, 02:28 PM   #11
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One thing to keep in mind is we landed on the moon in a race. A race with an enemy led to our desire to achieve such a huge accomplishment.

Who is Europe racing? Was there any real need to land on the moon?
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Old 09-03-2006, 03:03 PM   #12
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One thing to keep in mind is we landed on the moon in a race. A race with an enemy led to our desire to achieve such a huge accomplishment.

Who is Europe racing? Was there any real need to land on the moon?
Good question.
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Old 09-03-2006, 03:07 PM   #13
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When will you yanks stop beating yourselves up? The reason that we have only just done this in Europe, is because we are 40 years behind you.

Americans need to stop beating on themselves and realising what they have. Fuck, I'm British and I'm happy to admit how far we are behind you in these things. You should be proud of what you do, instead of making up conspiracy theories.

You got there 40 years before us and we couldnt even manage to put a human there yet
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Old 09-03-2006, 03:08 PM   #15
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The moon is overrated. What's so important about putting someone there? Just because you can?
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Its already proven that the moonlanding was fake. Remember people were naive back then.
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Old 09-03-2006, 03:16 PM   #17
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I've always believed we actually landed on the moon. But articles like this make me scratch my head... In this age of technology, why has it taken Europe so long to get there for the first time? And why did it take 3 years to get from Earth to the moon?

The atom bomb has been around for quite some time.. so why is it so hard for other nations to figure out how to make one? Simple answer is, it's not quite as easy as it looks.
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Old 09-03-2006, 03:45 PM   #19
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Old 09-03-2006, 03:58 PM   #20
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I think the reason the European Space Agency hasn't gone to the Moon before now is that they didn't have an endless supply of money to pour into something with dubious commercial application like that financial black hole called NASA has had in the past using the excuse that we have to get there before the Russians or Chinese.

Now that NASA has become an old bloated dinosaur, their funds have been severely restricted and they are pretty much dead in the water. Even the military gets more of it's space technology from commercial contractors than from NASA nowdays.

Sadly there are now probably more commercial satellite and spacecraft launched outside the US each year than within. Lack of a reliable launch vehicle forces US technolgy companies to get the Russians or Europeans or even China to launch "our" stuff and even then the Government tries to stop them with endless red tape and bs.

But anyway now that the possibilities for the commercialization of Space are really opening up, everyone wants a piece of the pie which is why the Europeans and everyone else are going for gusto in developing orbital craft capable of the Moon, Mars and beyond rather than just satellites and why all NASA funds should go instead to the most promising private companies so that the US doesn't get left any further behind in the dust.

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Old 09-03-2006, 04:32 PM   #21
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i just would like to throw in that without Werner von Braun you wouldn't even have a rocket to fly anywhere
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Old 09-03-2006, 04:36 PM   #22
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http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,...154966,00.html

So, in the year 2006, decades after the US supposedly lands someone on the moon, Europe finally crash lands a probe on the moon. And it took the probe 3 years to get there.

I don't really know what to think of this. Kinda weird, if you ask me. What do you think?

Without reading the rest of this thread and possibly say what others have already said:

The probe flew around the moon to make highly detailed pics of the surface for the last 3 years. Now it finally was so close to the moon that gravity did it work (as predicted). The fact that you can't read and then start to wonder about conspiracy's 50 years ago makes me question your intelligence.
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