Hiccup!

just look at the new babylon-x! they are going broke!

Bottom line is they fucked up. And they can fuck you out of a deal because they can. they got the power but it dont make it right.:BangBang:

Dude, you have got to be joking. I think it is quite the reverse of what you claim.

If that was the case they should have done the original deal dont you think? not like it was all that much :glugglug

I found notjoe, he's above me :thumbsup

Funny how the issues that were brought up in this thread were caused by notjoe himself.

He was stealing ALL of the names from our naughty mail list and selling them to other people. It made it impossible for us to deliver the clicks that we had sold people and so we re-funded the money they had paid and did what we could to make it up to them.

AHA........... Now the two threads came full circle !

Interesting thread indeed. I've dealt with python for years on the affliliate side and things have always been on the up and up.

A contract is a contract is a contract.

Even in our decadent age a verbal agreement is still a contract. It appears from the thread that there is no dispute whatsoever about what was initially agreed to. That's a contract.

It's been pointed out that some contracts cannot be fufilled. That's true when what was agreed to can no longer be provided. That's not the case in this situation. There's still traffic.

I'm reminded of Martha Stewart's stupidity with her insider trading. She wanted to make $200k and look what making that 200k has cost her. Last I heard her company had lost 600 million in stock valuation.

In this case, Python broke a deal because it wanted to make more money. How much, though, is this broken deal going to cost python? A lot of people read the board and word spreads. And bad words spread faster and further

Hey dumbass, now you're being sladnerous considering there was never anything mentioned about me sellingi the lists to anyone on the court documents.

Python just wanted to make back some of the $1 Million they spent on naughty, just ask the majority of the people who worked at python.

You guys are missing the point here... It isnt the sales people making these choices it is people like Chad Maldune (spelled wrong) and DVP and Aly making these choices, which is their management team.

Cool. A vintage thread about somebody getting cornholed.

Sounds to me like Policy changes
doesnt it happen, you are selling something, the owner/manager/whomever decides they can make more $$$ when it appears what is being done is profitable. Jack the price up.

To Python's credit, I am sure Naughty Mail had good solid deals as well that were always fulfilled.

Just too bad their PR is bad.

This was settled a long time ago, no need to re-visit it! :)

Mind you, I still need gay traffic if anyone has some to sell? :thumbsup

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hmmm... must have missed this one the first time around... lotta bad talk about Python lately... thanks for the warning... I'll stay away from them...

We stopped selling traffic along time ago.

As to the bad talk you mention..i assume you are talking about the argument i had on the board that you moderate?

No arguments bro... just a discussion... I don't agree with implying beasty any more than I do pedo... IMO, it's bad business ethics...

Nothing personal... I won't support it... I won't go as far as banning all the submitters that use you as a sponsor such as I have done with MET, HA, Alpha, etc... but I won't allow your animal sites to be submitted as sponsors...

fair enough...

i wouldn't ever judge anyone for their beliefs....

Aly, wtf are you trying to do. Your people make a bad contract and you decide you're not going to honor a bad deal? What kind of business school did you go to - or did you?

Shit, I just got taken to the cleaners on a deal I wasn't happy with, but I still honored it. I just won't make the same mistake a second time, and I don't have anywhere near the financing you guys have. I guess I should follow your lead and say "Sorry, I miscalculated my costs, you're out of luck". Yah, right! I agree with Charly, if you want to be a reputable business, you are happy with the "fair" deals you complete and you stand-by your bad ones!

BTW, I have purchased mailings from Python in the past, and never did break even with your lists.

I'll see you in Vegas, but I sure as hell won't be buying anything from you.

:stoned

vik

Dude...look at how old this thread is.

We ended up making it up to chrism and as he says just a few posts ago it has long been put to rest.

This was brought up yesterday for a different reason.

You can see me or Aly at the shows anytime you want.

We are always willing to help people make money.



:)

Sorry, but I won't be buying from you. This thread has proven to me that even a WRITTEN CONTRACT has no value to your company. The original terms should have been honored, no questions asked. Simple, isn't it?

:stoned

I personally wouldn't do business with a company that announces they made a contract in public and that they wont fill
it. but oh their sorry about that.. They wanted to increase their profits silly.. Lousy business ethic.

just thought Id post this to keep the thread going... always nice for people to know the companies that screw ya

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