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Old 08-22-2006, 08:28 PM   #1
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:stoned How to beat Youtube $$$

So you want to beat youtube.. ?

Recreate the same idea but give users the ability to share in the profits from advertisements on the page..

So its like fhg's you create..

If surfers got paid the more people that watched their video they would be very happy..

Give them the ability to advertise from a huge list of sponsors that you control..

So they signup upload say a street racing video and pick to advertise racing parts alongside. and they get a percentage of the profits..

Also put the advertising right on the flash so sites that dont want to pay for bandwidth costs can simply upload videos , display them on their own site and make money from it..
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Old 08-22-2006, 08:33 PM   #2
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so kinda like on the paid upload deal?
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Old 08-22-2006, 08:34 PM   #3
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so you're gonna pay the bandwith AND give the submitters your advertising profits. great idea.
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Old 08-22-2006, 08:55 PM   #4
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so you're gonna pay the bandwith AND give the submitters your advertising profits. great idea.
the way they are doing the advertsing now sucks ass , so if you can double the advertsising profits then you can afford to give up to %50 up the proceeds away and still be making more money than youtube.. if the user can choose the advertising to be displayed alongside it they will promote it more..
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Old 08-22-2006, 11:20 PM   #5
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I don't know how they could be making a profit period right now ( can you imagine the bandwidth/server farm it would take to run that? D: ). I always figured they were funded by venture capitalists at the moment with hopes of selling for half a bil+ like myspace.

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Old 08-22-2006, 11:26 PM   #6
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Let's do it. I'll fund it.
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Old 08-22-2006, 11:32 PM   #7
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Old 08-22-2006, 11:33 PM   #8
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I don't know how they could be making a profit period right now ( can you imagine the bandwidth/server farm it would take to run that? D: ). I always figured they were funded by venture capitalists at the moment with hopes of selling for half a bil+ like myspace.
That's the reasoning I came too... they are paying like a million dollars a month hosting now, it goes up every day. How they are making a profit is beyond me at this point.
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Old 08-22-2006, 11:33 PM   #9
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See: http://Revver.com and several others (veoh.com) that are launching that ability, soon.

But not sure about adult versions.
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Old 08-22-2006, 11:35 PM   #10
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I don't know how they could be making a profit period right now ( can you imagine the bandwidth/server farm it would take to run that? D: ). I always figured they were funded by venture capitalists at the moment with hopes of selling for half a bil+ like myspace.
I concur, thats the business model I thought they were aiming at as well. And they'll probably do it too.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:09 AM   #11
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Someone made a post just the other day about a site thats already doing this very thing..I'll see if I can find the link..
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:17 AM   #12
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what about google videos?
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:35 AM   #13
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Let's do it. I'll fund it.

He's serious, Smokey.

I'd jump on this offer if I were you.

Your idea rocks and somebody is going to do it. You might as well run with this ball.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:38 AM   #14
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it's already being done..just not for adult
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:47 AM   #15
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REVVER has the best business model so far.

Here's a video about the company
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:48 AM   #16
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Let's do it. I'll fund it.
I'll contact you , i have a few other ideas i would like to run by you that might interest you as well.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:49 AM   #17
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REVVER has the best business model so far.

Here's a video about the company
yah im just checking them out , gee they stole most of my idea i thought of after them.. thats ok i have some dif methods i think will work better
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:52 AM   #18
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too bad they are doing it in quicktime , i dont use that crap..
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are you going to subtract the bw cost from the rev share payoff? - could get complicated - good luck!

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Old 08-23-2006, 01:15 AM   #20
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are you going to subtract the bw cost from the rev share payoff? - could get complicated - good luck!
well theres several ways to do it , its safer to rev the "profits" but as you pointed out a little more difficult to calculate and to point out to the user.. i.e. there would have to be a "floating" payout.
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Old 08-23-2006, 01:17 AM   #21
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First off I would like to say I truly beleave this is a billion dollar plan.
MyInternetTV.com is the domain. Now here me out.

InternetTV streaming to 193 countries or wherever internet is available to every TV in the world all FREE the user pays nothing but for the ISP of their choice. Free Cable, Free Movies, Free User Videos, All in millions of searchable channels. We get paid by commercials and advertising and so do the users or the companys that make channels. I have the "Patent Pending" on the technology to make make this happen.

Now if you are serious investor please feel free to contact me on ICQ: s2kcord

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Sounds like a good idea to me, man. I know a bunch of a college kids who have funny/stupid videos that they post all of the time. Ad some monetary incentive(s) for them and they'd do it for sure.

Good luck, man. If Lens is on board you should be good.
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Old 08-23-2006, 01:24 AM   #23
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someone should do it, would be a laugh
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Old 08-23-2006, 01:29 AM   #24
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First off I would like to say I truly beleave this is a billion dollar plan.
MyInternetTV.com is the domain. Now here me out.

InternetTV streaming to 193 countries or wherever internet is available to every TV in the world all FREE the user pays nothing but for the ISP of their choice. Free Cable, Free Movies, Free User Videos, All in millions of searchable channels. We get paid by commercials and advertising and so do the users or the companys that make channels. I have the "Patent Pending" on the technology to make make this happen.

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bwha me and you should be partners i had that idea years ago but heres my way of doing it for free with no commercials.. you make mandatory closed captioning and sell off the keywords to the highest bidder.. so when someone says the word "apple" a little message appears "drink dole apple juice"
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I don't know how they could be making a profit period right now ( can you imagine the bandwidth/server farm it would take to run that? D: ). I always figured they were funded by venture capitalists at the moment with hopes of selling for half a bil+ like myspace.
They aren't gonna sell. Paris Hilton etc will make them profitable.

I personally think diluting user videos with branded commercial content is a big mistake and will make the fickle users drop them for another "user submitted only" site once the viewing experience is degraded enough. The commercial media Advertisers who own the content will also drop them once they find out how to cut out the middle man.

They should start embedding ads or sharing surrounding ad revenue with the bigger Director accounts at least as these have a large base of loyal fans.

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i heard about a site doing that already, but at the time of being digged it was offline due to bandwidht problems, cant remember the address, i let u know if i find it
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This doesn't sound much different from one those pic posting sites where you upload a pic, and then get paid for the views. What will happen is the system will get flooded with copyrighted videos, but I guess since money is being made, no one cares about this minor detail?
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bwha me and you should be partners i had that idea years ago but heres my way of doing it for free with no commercials.. you make mandatory closed captioning and sell off the keywords to the highest bidder.. so when someone says the word "apple" a little message appears "drink dole apple juice"
I like it sounds good with new fresh ideas you could do so many things the possibilities are endless! Great minds think alike if lensman is serious? See how this thread turns out I hope we can be intouch.
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how much profit is actually made after hosting costs, those sites are insanely hard onservers and bandwidth.
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So you want to beat youtube.. ?

Recreate the same idea but give users the ability to share in the profits from advertisements on the page..

So its like fhg's you create..

If surfers got paid the more people that watched their video they would be very happy..

Give them the ability to advertise from a huge list of sponsors that you control..

So they signup upload say a street racing video and pick to advertise racing parts alongside. and they get a percentage of the profits..

Also put the advertising right on the flash so sites that dont want to pay for bandwidth costs can simply upload videos , display them on their own site and make money from it..
You mean something like THIS
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oh shit - nice find - too late
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awesome idea...turn the entire internet into amway!
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oh shit - nice find - too late
yah its sort of the right idea, but i think it can be done alot better
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the way they are doing the advertsing now sucks ass , so if you can double the advertsising profits then you can afford to give up to %50 up the proceeds away and still be making more money than youtube.. if the user can choose the advertising to be displayed alongside it they will promote it more..
They lose money now because it was yet another site created to sell for hundreds of millions or billions later. If YouTube donated you the site today you would be bankrupt next month no matter what you did with advertising.
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This doesn't sound much different from one those pic posting sites where you upload a pic, and then get paid for the views. What will happen is the system will get flooded with copyrighted videos, but I guess since money is being made, no one cares about this minor detail?
bump for my first impression as well
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