i've always wanted to try that whole phone sex thing. i made killer money when i was a camgirl years ago, does phone sex operators make bank?

Its a rotten term to use, funny you bring this up .There was someone bragging about shooting his 1000 th scene and first called them whores then went err talent. I thought it was very sad and unprofessional.
i see someone who sees sex as a dirty thing using the word whore. I have the greatest respect for talent and treat them that way.
On the other hand what do you expect when pimp is the favorite term for someone who is successful in this business. Which is beyond stupid to me, especially when 95 percent of us are white.

It is like porn these days, tighter competition - and now, on the platform I work from, there is addtion of speakers who also offer sex cam shows w/phone. However, there's not much change in the catty-greedy-bitch flavor of the PSO biz. It was a real shock, after working in adult for 2+ years, where the forums are actually helpful - to be plopped into Paranoia Central.

I do well enough, for a ole gal, who never shows more than a smile and a lil leg. My market is narrow, but I have gained a large client base to sell to, with ease.

206-856-063 Always happy to show you around my lil haven for polite gents & sluts. :thumbsup

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Wow... what a bunch of sex-negative people posting in this thread! There's nothing wrong with people having wild adventurous sex with other consenting adults, and for my fellow industry peeps to look down upon the talent that shoots the sex scenes WE plan out for them (softcore, hardcore, extreme, whatever) is such a blatant indicator of the negative attitudes towards sexuality that run rampant in this industry. It's time for us to truly get over the bullshit Christian morality that labels sexually active adults as being "less than" people who don't exercise their sexuality.

People fucking and having fun being naked together is perfectly normal and okay. People doing it for the camera is also perfectly normal and okay. There's no need to look down upon people who have extreme sex the same way there's no need to look down upon people who have only vanilla sex, or no sex at all. As adults, it each of our perogatives to get our sexual needs met responsibly, whatever they happen to be.

So to use connotatively negative terms such as "whore" to refer to talent performing in very hardcore scenes, it shows that the person using the term has a big issue with others having wilder sex than they do. And because every person has their own sexual fingerprint, it's total bullshit to judge other people's sexual proclivities in comparison to our own.

However, as a sexually adventurous woman, for me to fondly refer to one of my gal pals as a "total whore" while I smile as she recounts her most recent adventures is not derogatory because I respect her right to her sex life. However, if some buttoned-up Christian zealot referred to my friend as a "total whore" with a sneer on their face, it would be highly inappropriate. Context is everything.

Well said.

i think people getting confused between real life and fantasy. I don't think women appreciate being called whores on a personal basis as much as they do in movies which make them their incomes.

It's like comparing an actor playing a part to his real life. Two different levels there and i don't think they like being compared to their film roles.

I met the guy who used to play Carlton on "Fresh Prince" last year at a night club. I called him Carlton which he didn't seem to like. He responded with an "it's Alfonso thankyou"

I didn't read any of the responses, so I have no idea what anyone's presenting as their argument, however, here is my own.


Whore, Slut, Bitch, etc, etc all are & very well should be acceptable terminology for what you call "talent"..

You're not filming no fucking movie actress or anything even remotely requiring "talent". Any fucking whore, slut, etc can fuck & suck cock on camera.. any bimbo on the street will do.. no talent is needed..

Now, on another note.. do you really think anyone is going to use descriptions such as "talent sucking cock" on their sites?

how on earth can you call taking 3 cum loads to the face a profession?

or deep anal and vaginal penetration a profession and get respect for it?

you fucking idiots amaze me.

I say it is very rude :-(

work is work, whether you think of it as a profession or not, many people may beg to differ with you - and nobody never mentioned anything about respect.

A lot of people do jobs that may not seem very respectful. They don't like associating what they do for a living for who they are.

You missed the point of the question. (although from your tone, I doubt your answer would change.)

I'm asking about the term when used within the business, not to surfers.

well, ok then.. within the business I think it is rude, i would certainly not call up a content provider & say "I need a whore to do some exclusive".. that would be unacceptable & unprofessional as well as unbusiness like.. I call them "models", even though in the mainstream sense of the word is much differently viewed.

Less that $50 or willing to do it in an alley, she's a whore.
$100-200, prostitute.
$200+, escort.

I don't think that "anyone" can fuck on camera. Whereas it may not require acting classes at Juilliard it does require a level of "talent". I'd even go out on a limb and guess that most of us here haven't and couldn't "fuck on camera" as you so eloquently put it.

Whore has negative connotations to it, unless that changes it is wholly inappropriate to use the term in a business setting.

In ad copy, sure if that's what you're selling. In addressing someone and or a situation that is business related, no.

The biggest problem this industry has is it's complete immaturity on subjects like this. Yes Sir we sell sex, does that make it "right" or "acceptable" to act like 12yr olds on a plaground discovering their first Playboy? No

:2 cents:

i'm with you on the use of "whore" for marketing, sales, etc...
i say no to using it in business discussions. they should be adressed and referred to by their first name, like everyone else in the biz or any other biz for that matter. respect goes both ways.

I believe that it is only appropriate to speak to a man or woman and use that word if it is done in jest. To actually call somebody a whore and really mean it you better be ready for a fight as it is definitely derogatory. However with in this industry I think being called a dirty little whore can be a complement so it all depends on how it is said.

When I'm working with talent I try to gauge their sensitivity on different words that I say when we are doing sex scenes. If I feel that somebody is uncomfortable with what I'm saying then I do not say it. However, thankfully most people in this business like to be called whores while they are fucked.

So simply put I think it's appropriate depending on how somebody says it.

If they say it as a rude remark being derogatory then I don't think it's appropriate however if they say it in a smiling complementary way than I think it is absolutely appropriate :-)

I really think it depends on the girl and the content you're producing with her.

Was thinking exactly the same on the 10 years - and before that :)

Never heard of any models/talent being described as "whores" by anyone in the adult biz.

Why now? Sounds like a new little boy term to make them feel superior while pimping? Gaining "group respect"? A sexual issue? A need to disassociate to justify hangups?

Each to their own - I'll stick to treating talent with the same respect anyone gets - till they ruin it :winkwink:

The first convention I ever went to almost two years ago, I found myself facing this dilema. I was talking to a webmaster that was there with his model and he started to talk about how much money she made for a "whore". Mind you I live with Marc so you know I am "VERY OPEN MINDED". But this really pissed me off. I walked away from the webmaster and from that moment, I had a bad image of him and his business. Now, two years and many conventions later, I still think it was fucked up forhim to talk like that about his models.

Treating other human beings like shit is never going to change the context/intent of your words. :2 cents:

BTW, thanks for posting theis thread Hal :thumbsup

Ouch!
 

I agree with your comment---same for use of the word "cu*t".

IMO, we need to innately feel and treat everyone nicely (including Adult Industry performers who contribute to us making a living).

The girls are human beings, not what those terms connote when one thinks of their local street-walkers!

Dave

At the start of a photosession we call them princes or so at the end it goodby

Every one of them might be, technically, a "whore"...

But I'm sure there are a lot of people who are, technically, "bastards"...

technically "fat"

technically "motherfuckers"

We don't refer to these people, on a regular basis (unless in a jesting kinda way), by these derrogatory terms because they're all terms that have negative connotations.

As has been said before... its' about respect.

Then they need to act like human beings instead of human cum dumpsters. :2 cents:

it seems most people at least agree that its ok to refer to them as such on sites to the general public but that doesn't that just re-enforce the idea that these women are whores to those viewing the sites? its ok to let them believe it as long as they are buying subscriptions?

You aren't kidding about that! It's so bad over on that site, I've never seen anything like it, not even among camgirls. Lying, stealing, cheating, backstabbing.

not a good idea to call talent whore unless you are a friend and using at a term of endearment - otherwise it's disrespectful

I'm not trying to get on my "High Whorse" ,but unless the cameras rolling and she has agreed to allow you to call her a whore I wouldn't. Then again theres some really cool girls that don't care and don't take offense to it.

It is always a term of endearment when I say it.

Is someone who has sex for money by definition a whore? YES

Does it make a difference that its for a movie or photo? NO

Is it okay to call ANYONE a whore who is respectful to you?

NO, not if they view it as desrespectful

Except that porn is the selling of fantasy.
And MANY fantasies revolve around roll/power play and degradation.

You can call a lover a "whore" in the bedroom and still respect her to the core.
That is much different than thinking she *is* a whore.

That being said, I think it would be much more responsible, as an industry, to address the idea of fantasy and rollplay in porn (to surefers). Especially with "extreme" scenes.

IMO, The term "whore" is only acceptable when it is in the script of a scene and the model is aware of it and complies or on the tour of a website. To simply refer to an adult performer as a "whore" is rude.

ditto....

if you say it with love

talent? a girl thats getting fucked for cash, only dif with a whore is she's being recorded. So yes she's a whore. Nude models aint whores since they dont ride the cock.

good points. I consdier myself a photographer that will shoot video for money . . so I tend to think in terms of 'model' even when I get pissed at the models I never use sexualy orientated languge . . I stick with ass hole, dumb ass, dip shit, etc, those type terms . . I like women