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Old 08-22-2006, 09:21 PM   #1
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christ did pussycash turn to shit

close to 8k in 3 days clicked through to landing page & only 1 sale
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:23 PM   #2
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:26 PM   #3
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Chronic complainitis eh?
no complaints.. I am referring to market saturation,, Pussycashs is a great program with a top notch staff & great tools, payouts , promotions, etc,, I'm just stating that market saturation's thinned out everyones cut.. time for me to move on to something better,, something that don't have 3 million webmasters promoting it..
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:27 PM   #4
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no complaints.. I am referring to market saturation,, Pussycashs is a great program with a top notch staff & great tools, payouts , promotions, etc,, I'm just stating that market saturation's thinned out everyones cut.. time for me to move on to something better,, something that don't have 3 million webmasters promoting it..
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:31 PM   #5
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Dump pussycash. Even if they arent shaving then thats a shit conversion rate.

You can do without that crap.

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Old 08-22-2006, 09:34 PM   #6
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pussycash is a solid program...if you are looking for something new to rotate into your promotion mix then try us

we have our own processing as well
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:35 PM   #7
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Spacedog, you've become insanely jaded lately. You need to go for a spa treatment.
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:36 PM   #8
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:38 PM   #9
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pussycash is a solid program...if you are looking for something new to rotate into your promotion mix then try us

we have our own processing as well
Yes, pussycash is very solid,, just a saturated market to contend with,,

I will keep sending my traffic to them.. I know I can trust them, just thought I'd have better #s , but could be the traffic lately is too fucking cheap to spend money..
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:43 PM   #10
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Dude you have ups and down sometimes... the other day I was at like 0:4000 in my day with a sponsor I normally convert 1:500... shit happens. i go to sleep 1 hour before midnight and a couple signups comes in. You can be unlucky for an extended period of time it happens.
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:47 PM   #11
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Dude you have ups and down sometimes... the other day I was at like 0:4000 in my day with a sponsor I normally convert 1:500... shit happens. i go to sleep 1 hour before midnight and a couple signups comes in. You can be unlucky for an extended period of time it happens.
I know, & tommorow I'll wake up & see another 4k sent & probably some sales,, maybe .. it's always up & down,, with all sponsors really,,,

shit, like 2 weeks ago I was doing something like 1 to 2 sales per day with wildcash, then one day-- BOOM-- crash stopped & nothing for 2 weeks now.,
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Yeah... the $125/signup month is sucking.. On the other hand.. 1 sale at $125 is worth 3 CC ones until you start getting into the bonuses. So your 8k traffic would be like 1:2700 with CC.
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Old 08-22-2006, 10:22 PM   #13
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Yeah... the $125/signup month is sucking.. On the other hand.. 1 sale at $125 is worth 3 CC ones until you start getting into the bonuses. So your 8k traffic would be like 1:2700 with CC.
hey, well that makes it all so much better.. Now I don't feel so bad
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Old 08-22-2006, 10:30 PM   #14
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Old 08-23-2006, 02:04 AM   #16
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Old 08-23-2006, 02:05 AM   #17
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Old 08-23-2006, 02:12 AM   #18
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First great program, adam is a top affiliate rep, and I have used them for 3 years without a complaint about how the run.

Though my dating traffic isn't doing super well ... its doing ok, but not like it was a couple of years ago. Imlive since the promotion has been terrible. I have tried almost everything, and since I have similar sources of traffic as other affiliates it may just be oversaturation. If they were to open a new cams site that plugged into their established site then it could improve things, but even though I think the world of pussycash I just cant afford to keep my cams traffic there any longer
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Old 08-23-2006, 02:26 AM   #19
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Yeah... the $125/signup month is sucking.. On the other hand.. 1 sale at $125 is worth 3 CC ones until you start getting into the bonuses. So your 8k traffic would be like 1:2700 with CC.

How can you equally compare a site that requires someone to spend money vs a site that does not require money to be spent for you to get credit for the signup. If anything my results have shown no load (no money spent, just a credit card signup) will convert 3 - 4x better then a similar site that requires the person signing up and spend $25 etc.. before you get paid.

It is actually the opposite of the example you gave.
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spacedogs moaning will improve him above more webmasters imaginiable, he will get people kicked in gear. in the end it will pay off 0.02
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How can you equally compare a site that requires someone to spend money vs a site that does not require money to be spent for you to get credit for the signup. If anything my results have shown no load (no money spent, just a credit card signup) will convert 3 - 4x better then a similar site that requires the person signing up and spend $25 etc.. before you get paid.

It is actually the opposite of the example you gave.
How strange seeing you in a PussyCash thread pushing your own stuff.

Interesting...
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One could say the same to you.
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One could say the same to you.
How so? When have you ever seen me on a clickcash thread pushing my own agenda? (and revelling in the negativity being spewed about them?)

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How so? When have you ever seen me on a clickcash thread pushing my own agenda? (and revelling in the negativity being spewed about them?)

Link please.
Notice the part I quoted? "How strange seeing you in a PussyCash thread."

Meaning we know what side of the fence you are on before we read your post. Issue irrelevant.
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Notice the part I quoted? "How strange seeing you in a PussyCash thread."

Meaning we know what side of the fence you are on before we read your post. Issue irrelevant.
Actually, you're quite wrong. I too promote PussyCash as a webmaster just like anyone else. I'm not directly part of the company per se, and in order for me to back them the way I do I have to honestly beieve in them.

And yes, I can see the bigger picture, in that for every negative thread like this there are literally thousands of webmasters out there in the world who absolutely love the program and who are making great money from it.

Over the past 8+ years do you have any idea how many programs I've promoted that I could have started a thread about how shitty their conversions got? You won't find one though, because I handle things differently than some I suppose. Instead of casting an entire program in a negative light over *my* lone experiences I've usually chosen to either:
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B) Look at ways of adding pages to my network in order to drive new/different traffic to the program
C) A combination of both A and B
or D) dump them and move on to something else.

If the day ever comes that I truly in my heart believe this or any program has in fact "gone to shit" I would admit it... but probably not using those exact words. I would certainly be talking about ways of improving things rather than focusing on the negative.

So, to address your point... can I be objective? I say I always have been. You of course can think what you will, but what you won't see is me jumping into a thread related to another program and trying to push my own agenda or revelling in their troubles. Not my style, never has been, and quite frankly I'm a bit surprised that a certain few others do it so regularly. It definitely speaks of their professionalism, or lack thereof.

No biggie. Moving on here....

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You are overcomplicating a simple

"How strange seeing you in a PussyCash thread." lol
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no complaints.. I am referring to market saturation,, Pussycashs is a great program with a top notch staff & great tools, payouts , promotions, etc,, I'm just stating that market saturation's thinned out everyones cut.. time for me to move on to something better,, something that don't have 3 million webmasters promoting it..
PussyCash doesn't have "3 million webmasters" promoting it. (yet :D )

As for saturation, it's not even close to being saturated. I would say AFF is much more heavily branded, especially in N. America (for now) and their banners are seen everywhere, on tons of the large TGP's etc. There is certainly a huge amount of room for ImLive and PussyCash to see further growth, as the amount of adult traffic on the web daily is in the 200 million uniques PLUS range.... much of that has yet to see a PussyCash site.

If I were one affiliate amoung thousands in a program and I was seeing poor sales but the vast majority were doing better than me, I would start to wonder what it is I wasn't doing that they WERE doing. A guy like Adam can help with that.

Have you tried promoting Wildmatch yet? I'm understating it when I say it is THE hot up and comer in the online dating community. Saturated? Not even close. PussyCash is huge, yes, but it's really still in it's infancy. Come back in two years and we'll talk about growth of the program :D
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"How strange seeing you in a PussyCash thread." lol
Sorry, I'll attempt to keep my posts shorter, just...for you.

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How strange seeing you in a PussyCash thread pushing your own stuff.

Interesting...

Thats funny. I missed where I was pushing something? did I mention any company names ? oh it was the sig I don't have ?


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Right Will. Like the "program" you refer to in your first post here isn't your own, and the word "clickcash" isn't in your sig.

You must think everyone here is stupid, eh will? :D
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How can you equally compare a site that requires someone to spend money vs a site that does not require money to be spent for you to get credit for the signup. If anything my results have shown no load (no money spent, just a credit card signup) will convert 3 - 4x better then a similar site that requires the person signing up and spend $25 etc.. before you get paid.

It is actually the opposite of the example you gave.
Whether the site requires someone to spend money or not doesn't matter... As you've stated before, it all comes down to how much money you make from the traffic... If I send 6000 to imlive and make 1 sale at $125, it's a better program than if I send 6000 to CC and make 3 sales at $120.. Yes, you can talk about volume bonuses and blah blah blah... But once again... It's all about cash in the bank account.

For the record.. I think I still make more from CC than ImLive although I haven't done a detailed comparison recently.
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