Hosting billing.. 95th percentile or per gig? - GoFuckYourself.com

gleem · 08-23-2006, 08:06 PM

which is better if you are say submitting galleries? getting charged "95th percentile" or paying per gig?

SplitNinja · 08-23-2006, 08:32 PM

95th Percentile is better on a user basis.

It is based on your peak utilization. Your bandwidth is measured from the distribution switches through snmp mostly and recorded in a log file. At the end of the month, your usage statistics are sorted, and the top 5% of data is thrown away.

jayeff · 08-23-2006, 08:40 PM

You must be desperate for sig exposure: I haven't seen anyone ask that question for years and you surely know the answer

The most popular reply used to be that for people with very stable usage, there may be a small advantage to 95%. Those who have a lot of major peaks in their traffic (which includes most TGP's, free sites and submitters' domains) are better off on a per gig basis. That of course assumes otherwise equal pricing.

I never delved into the truth of otherwise of the above. I prefer per gig because otherwise I hadn't a clue until I got the invoice what I was going to have to pay

gleem · 08-23-2006, 08:41 PM

right, but if say I get a huge listing at 150mbps that lasts 2 days and slowly trails down to 10mbps over the next week and stays there, I'm gonna be paying for 150mbps or close to it right?

gleem · 08-23-2006, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jayeff

You must be desperate for sig exposure: I haven't seen anyone ask that question for years and you surely know the answer

The most popular reply used to be that for people with very stable usage, there may be a small advantage to 95%. Those who have a lot of major peaks in their traffic (which includes most TGP's, free sites and submitters' domains) are better off on a per gig basis. That of course assumes otherwise equal pricing.

I never delved into the truth of otherwise of the above. I prefer per gig because otherwise I hadn't a clue until I got the invoice what I was going to have to pay

heh actually I could care less about my sig, was gonna change it anyways.. thanx

I actually wasn't sure 100% on it, since I was always per gig, and I don't do galleries until now. thanx for the input

Adult Warden · 08-23-2006, 08:43 PM

[20:18] Orlando360: yaya...95%...if I remember correctly...you could use 100mbit for 2 days but the other 28 days you had to stay under 10mbit?
[20:18] milan: 36 hours
[20:19] milan: when you hit 37 you start getting the 95% higher
[20:19] milan: at 48 you pay for the peak

I had to ask the other week

jayeff · 08-23-2006, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem

right, but if say I get a huge listing at 150mbps that lasts 2 days and slowly trails down to 10mbps over the next week and stays there, I'm gonna be paying for 150mbps or close to it right?

That's the theory. The other thing you need to ask is how often the stats are recorded - per hour or what - because that also makes a difference as to how many peaks are discounted.

zagi · 08-23-2006, 08:48 PM

Whatever the 37th hour of your highest traffic is -- that's what you will be billed.

A good host will make an exception and say - yes you were charged 100+mbps and your traffic lasted for 2 days - so lets make a deal.

But why go thru that hassle, if you expect to submit and get huge spikes over a couple days and then much smaller traffic, go for the per gig and save everyone the headache

gleem · 08-23-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Adult Warden

[20:18] Orlando360: yaya...95%...if I remember correctly...you could use 100mbit for 2 days but the other 28 days you had to stay under 10mbit?
[20:18] milan: 36 hours
[20:19] milan: when you hit 37 you start getting the 95% higher
[20:19] milan: at 48 you pay for the peak

I had to ask the other week

lol, I asked the same person that question today and got that answer.. made me a bit nervous.

HorseShit · 08-23-2006, 08:50 PM

i use 95% and know exactly what my bill will be thanks to mrtg

Adult Warden · 08-23-2006, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem

lol, I asked the same person that question today and got that answer.. made me a bit nervous.

its because every one of his clients know him on icq and ask him the same questions

Are you hosting with Oc3?

milan · 08-23-2006, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Adult Warden

its because every one of his clients know him on icq and ask him the same questions

Are you hosting with Oc3?

Hey.. don;t you go releasing our private conversation...

gleem · 08-23-2006, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by milan

Hey.. don;t you go releasing our private conversation...

ahhhh he busted us talking about him

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gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	right, but if say I get a huge listing at 150mbps that lasts 2 days and slowly trails down to 10mbps over the next week and stays there, I'm gonna be paying for 150mbps or close to it right? __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

08-23-2006, 08:48 PM	#8
zagi Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,238	Whatever the 37th hour of your highest traffic is -- that's what you will be billed. A good host will make an exception and say - yes you were charged 100+mbps and your traffic lasted for 2 days - so lets make a deal. But why go thru that hassle, if you expect to submit and get huge spikes over a couple days and then much smaller traffic, go for the per gig and save everyone the headache __________________ Managed US/NL Hosting [ [Reality Check Network ] Dell XEON Servers + 1/2/3 TB Packages ICQ: 4-930-562

08-23-2006, 08:40 PM	#3
jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	You must be desperate for sig exposure: I haven't seen anyone ask that question for years and you surely know the answer The most popular reply used to be that for people with very stable usage, there may be a small advantage to 95%. Those who have a lot of major peaks in their traffic (which includes most TGP's, free sites and submitters' domains) are better off on a per gig basis. That of course assumes otherwise equal pricing. I never delved into the truth of otherwise of the above. I prefer per gig because otherwise I hadn't a clue until I got the invoice what I was going to have to pay

08-23-2006, 08:43 PM	#6
Adult Warden So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,822	[20:18] Orlando360: yaya...95%...if I remember correctly...you could use 100mbit for 2 days but the other 28 days you had to stay under 10mbit? [20:18] milan: 36 hours [20:19] milan: when you hit 37 you start getting the 95% higher [20:19] milan: at 48 you pay for the peak I had to ask the other week

08-23-2006, 08:50 PM	#10
HorseShit Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,513	i use 95% and know exactly what my bill will be thanks to mrtg