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payrollpete · 06-17-2002, 12:25 PM

All this news IE VS NETSCAPE

they need to give up, they are a bunch of whiney bastards

so microsoft took their ass out by packaging their IE with their windows, its your choice if you want to use it to get on the internet or not.

IE is faster then netscape, and has many better features. Netscape needs to just get over the fact everybody loves IE (or most people) and do not want netscape.

My stats have said the same thing for years, More IE users and less and less netscape users, so they need to shove their piece of shit netscape up their ass

http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/interne....ap/index.html

payrollpete · 06-17-2002, 12:26 PM

I grew up on netscape, and i switched to IE because netscape was slow and bugged out

So go figure

DrGuile · 06-17-2002, 12:27 PM

Mozilla 1.0 is faster than IE... "more secure" also.... (note the quotes)

payrollpete · 06-17-2002, 12:29 PM

the problem is, they are too late to introduce something like mozilla 1.0

simply because IE is just fine, i never have any slowness or problems, never had with IE

i wouldn't even think to switch just because i am satisfied

netscape is just a bunch of whiney losers that lost the "browser wars" and they need to accept that and fold.

cherrylula · 06-17-2002, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by payrollpete
I grew up on netscape, and i switched to IE because netscape was slow and bugged out

So go figure

Same here. Whatever gets the job done.

SetTheWorldonFire · 06-17-2002, 12:39 PM

The only reason I like Netscape is the email client. You can set difrent mail accounts seprately. Other than that I fuckin hate the way it renders.

HeadPimp · 06-17-2002, 12:40 PM

Forget either of them! Opera is the only way to go!

salsbury · 06-17-2002, 12:40 PM

mozilla 1.0 is great.

i disagree that they're too late. remember who owns Netscape? AOL. that's potentially a lot of users who could end up switched.

poolie · 06-17-2002, 12:40 PM

i hate netscape... ie is the browser baby!

RW316 · 06-17-2002, 12:46 PM

well microsft putted netscape out of business..

IE was better anywas.. there was alot of competition but the IE saved more ram and was faster then netscape. thats microsoft for yall!

netscape sucked anways

mjrools23 · 06-17-2002, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by payrollpete
I grew up on netscape, and i switched to IE because netscape was slow and bugged out

So go figure

same here

Goonx · 06-17-2002, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by payrollpete
All this news IE VS NETSCAPE

they need to give up, they are a bunch of whiney bastards

so microsoft took their ass out by packaging their IE with their windows, its your choice if you want to use it to get on the internet or not.

IE is faster then netscape, and has many better features. Netscape needs to just get over the fact everybody loves IE (or most people) and do not want netscape.

My stats have said the same thing for years, More IE users and less and less netscape users, so they need to shove their piece of shit netscape up their ass

http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/interne....ap/index.html

AMEN!!!

dipshit moron retard · 06-17-2002, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by payrollpete
All this news IE VS NETSCAPE

they need to give up, they are a bunch of whiney bastards

so microsoft took their ass out by packaging their IE with their windows, its your choice if you want to use it to get on the internet or not.

IE is faster then netscape, and has many better features. Netscape needs to just get over the fact everybody loves IE (or most people) and do not want netscape.

My stats have said the same thing for years, More IE users and less and less netscape users, so they need to shove their piece of shit netscape up their ass

http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/interne....ap/index.html

you're missing the point completely pete. this isnt really a matter of 'people do not want netscape' and 'netscape is dead', "netscape sucks", netscape is the company, mozilla is the browser. "netscape" the browser is long dead. mozilla is a new entity and is attempting to challenge a monopoly in ways not previously possible. For instance, as part of microsofts settlement a few months ago, pc manufacturers can't be punished for including rival browsers with their OS, even if they're set as the primary browser. its almost a certainty AOL will use mozilla for all of their subscribers soon, boom 30 million people using mozilla.
what happens when aol starts releasing aol instant message specific toolbars and plugins for mozilla on top of that? how many other isps do you think will also give out preconfigured mozilla as part of their new user package?

because of the nature of MSIE being completely proprietary and hardly extendable, mozilla will most likely become the browser of choice for the majority of web enabled 'appliances'. when joe blow dipshit gets used to using netscape on his playstation, his palmpilot, and airport terminals etc, it may become preferably or advantageous for him to remain consistant with his pc's browser also.

the part that sucks for us is it's annoying to have to support 2 browsers, but that should be preferably to any reasonable person over giving a company like microsoft a complete monopoly, who achieved it so unethically and ILLEGALLY, because its convienant.

CDSmith · 06-17-2002, 12:55 PM

Plus, more little scripty things work with IE, and many of these little cosmetic bells & whistles do NOT work with Nutscrape. Table borders look better (and proper) in IE. Text-link color-change mouseovers work with IE and not nutscrape.

Nutscrape can bite ass.

payrollpete · 06-17-2002, 12:57 PM

dipshit, good point

but, netscape has lost, nobody is willing to change to mozilla or netscape, because IE does the job just fine

and thats the bottom line

payrollpete · 06-17-2002, 12:58 PM

microsoft didn't package ie illegaly

come on

its their os, they can supply what the hell they want with it

its up to me if i want to use it, or keep using it

sexyclicks · 06-17-2002, 01:01 PM

Netscape sucks

funkmaster · 06-17-2002, 01:02 PM

"they need to give up, they are a bunch of whiney bastards "

... yes, this is why the new AOL browser will be morzilla based, watch your sever logs carefully .. starting this september ...

payrollpete · 06-17-2002, 01:06 PM

aol only has 30,000,000 subscribers, or so they say

which are dropping to cable / dsl at an alarming rate to them

haven't you been reading, aol is doing shit for profit, they can't keep up with the demand for broadband service, people just love cable and dsl wayyy more

i think it was between 3,000 - 5,000 + switch to broadband every day

FATPad · 06-17-2002, 01:07 PM

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Originally posted by dipshit moron retard

you're missing the point completely pete. this isnt really a matter of 'people do not want netscape' and 'netscape is dead', "netscape sucks", netscape is the company, mozilla is the browser. "netscape" the browser is long dead. mozilla is a new entity and is attempting to challenge a monopoly in ways not previously possible. For instance, as part of microsofts settlement a few months ago, pc manufacturers can't be punished for including rival browsers with their OS, even if they're set as the primary browser. its almost a certainty AOL will use mozilla for all of their subscribers soon, boom 30 million people using mozilla.
what happens when aol starts releasing aol instant message specific toolbars and plugins for mozilla on top of that? how many other isps do you think will also give out preconfigured mozilla as part of their new user package?

because of the nature of MSIE being completely proprietary and hardly extendable, mozilla will most likely become the browser of choice for the majority of web enabled 'appliances'. when joe blow dipshit gets used to using netscape on his playstation, his palmpilot, and airport terminals etc, it may become preferably or advantageous for him to remain consistant with his pc's browser also.

the part that sucks for us is it's annoying to have to support 2 browsers, but that should be preferably to any reasonable person over giving a company like microsoft a complete monopoly, who achieved it so unethically and ILLEGALLY, because its convienant.

Nice post.

Competition is always good. EVERYONE should be happy IE has some sort of competition. I'm glad it does.

I think Mozilla being open source and independent will eventually allow it to take back the market from IE. Just look at Apache and Linux. Both open source and both kick MS's ass in their respective areas (webservers and OS's) as far as performance goes.

I see great things in the future from this and a product that eventually blows IE away.

FATPad · 06-17-2002, 01:08 PM

WE TODD DID

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payrollpete · 06-17-2002, 01:15 PM

kids with nothing better to do

well if you want to go to the slammer for circulating / creating a virus then go ahead!

dumb kids

PaulSweet · 06-17-2002, 01:16 PM

Its funny Netscape was the Don - then some competition came along and they choked big time. Now I refer to my former favorite browser only as "Nutscrape Navigator".......

payrollpete · 06-17-2002, 01:18 PM

its true too

netscape had such a monopoly going

thats how i first started out on it. it came packaged with some isp package

haaaaaaaaahahahaha

now they get fucked into the ground by microsoft and whine like little schoolgirls pms'ing haha

dipshit moron retard · 06-17-2002, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by payrollpete
microsoft didn't package ie illegaly

come on

its their os, they can supply what the hell they want with it

its up to me if i want to use it, or keep using it

actually, they did. did you miss the 200 or so lawsuits over the last 5 years or something? what do you think their 2 settlements are about? because they wanna give up their marketshare for the fuck of it? can't afford the lawyers? its the same concept as the old railroad monopoly, microsoft laid the "tracks" with the operating system. what is illegal isn't so much including the browser, but threatening vendors if they provide alternatives, making it impossible to seperate from the OS, etc. anyway its pointless to regurgitate any of that its all been rehashed so many times just surprized there are people who still aren't aware of it.

Wizzo · 06-17-2002, 01:26 PM

I thought they did give up, when they sold out to AOL...

foe · 06-17-2002, 01:49 PM

Yeh look do you see that much diffrence between ie 4 - 5 - 6 no except for more microsoft.net crap, lets hope microsoft gets some competition again so we browser developtment does not stop

Kat - Fast · 06-17-2002, 03:24 PM

I mean, why would I put something in my sig if it didn't work and I got no commission....?

SykkBoy · 06-17-2002, 03:32 PM

I like IE because I can reset peoples home page and auto add bookmarks to their browsers........and Outlook rocks for spreading worms! ;)

yeah, I know...one of the 3 netscape users left who shows in your stats ;) I really do like their email client though........

Scootermuze · 06-17-2002, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dipshit moron retard

.......
the part that sucks for us is it's annoying to have to support 2 browsers, but that should be preferably to any reasonable person over giving a company like microsoft a complete monopoly, who achieved it so unethically and ILLEGALLY, because its convienant.

Well.. ya don't have to support 2 browsers.. you can rip IE out of windows if ya want.. among other programs..

Check out http://www.litepc.com/98lite.html

salsbury · 06-17-2002, 04:35 PM

could also write HTML according to published standards and have it work on both.

Mike D · 06-17-2002, 08:36 PM

Nutscrape sux

D_Nell · 06-17-2002, 09:07 PM

Its all because AOHELL bought them. Its funny that the average retention of AOL Users is about 6 months. Then people figure it out the AOL sucks ass and go somewhere else. My bet was AOL purchased Netscape to stop the browser war BS.
Remember IE is still bundled with AOHELL!

foe · 06-17-2002, 09:09 PM

ccs

Quote:

Originally posted by SykkBoy2
I like IE because I can reset peoples home page and auto add bookmarks to their browsers........and Outlook rocks for spreading worms! ;)

yeah, I know...one of the 3 netscape users left who shows in your stats ;) I really do like their email client though........

foe · 06-17-2002, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by D_Nell
Its all because AOHELL bought them. Its funny that the average retention of AOL Users is about 6 months. Then people figure it out the AOL sucks ass and go somewhere else. My bet was AOL purchased Netscape to stop the browser war BS.
Remember IE is still bundled with AOHELL!

the reason aol brought nescape was becuase of server software and traffic on netscape.com

Gemini · 06-17-2002, 09:24 PM

Payroll you obviously have NO freaking idea what MS was doing to the computer vendors with their BS forced contracts blah blah blah. We had to sign one of the d*mned things and it was pure de BS. I hope these lawsuits lay Gates down and run over him a few times just like he did to all the computer stores in this country.

And if you know what you are doing like someone else already mentioned... write the pages in the CORRECT html format and they work fine. IE works on trash html and stolen coding. NOT pure, like Netscape. But IE will read proper coding as well. It's all about the webmasters skills, eh?

So read up or don't complain.

foe · 06-17-2002, 09:29 PM

Its definetly not as simple and MS did a ton of things to intimidate vendors many illegal

titmowse · 06-17-2002, 09:38 PM

"Remember IE is still bundled with AOHELL!"

not for long from what i hear.

mike503 · 06-18-2002, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by payrollpete
microsoft didn't package ie illegaly

come on

its their os, they can supply what the hell they want with it

its up to me if i want to use it, or keep using it

exactly. the govt can't step in because they figured out a good way to team up their software together. i can't even think of a good metaphor for that because it's "fucking retarded" to discuss it in the first place.

Gemini · 06-18-2002, 01:21 AM

MS did a ton of things to intimidate vendors many illegal

Yep! Many states including ours declared the contracts null and void due to them being signed under coercement and duress.

And the leading states still haven't given in like Dubya's followers.

payrollpete · 06-18-2002, 02:19 AM

i give credit to bill gates and microsoft

they owned the software market, and took everybody out

it is great

if the other companies had such great products they would be #1 as well, but they aren't, so what does that show

microsoft started out with nothing, and became the next biggest thing, kudos to them

90% of the people who chat on here wouldn't be anywhere w/o microsoft, infact, 99% probably

unless more of you rely on linux and mac os to surf the web :P

chodadog · 06-18-2002, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by salsbury
could also write HTML according to published standards and have it work on both.

Bravo

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payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	Netscape needs to give up... All this news IE VS NETSCAPE they need to give up, they are a bunch of whiney bastards so microsoft took their ass out by packaging their IE with their windows, its your choice if you want to use it to get on the internet or not. IE is faster then netscape, and has many better features. Netscape needs to just get over the fact everybody loves IE (or most people) and do not want netscape. My stats have said the same thing for years, More IE users and less and less netscape users, so they need to shove their piece of shit netscape up their ass http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/interne....ap/index.html

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payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	I grew up on netscape, and i switched to IE because netscape was slow and bugged out So go figure

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payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	the problem is, they are too late to introduce something like mozilla 1.0 simply because IE is just fine, i never have any slowness or problems, never had with IE i wouldn't even think to switch just because i am satisfied netscape is just a bunch of whiney losers that lost the "browser wars" and they need to accept that and fold.

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RW316 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,103	well microsft putted netscape out of business.. IE was better anywas.. there was alot of competition but the IE saved more ram and was faster then netscape. thats microsoft for yall! netscape sucked anways

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payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	dipshit, good point but, netscape has lost, nobody is willing to change to mozilla or netscape, because IE does the job just fine and thats the bottom line

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payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	microsoft didn't package ie illegaly come on its their os, they can supply what the hell they want with it its up to me if i want to use it, or keep using it

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payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	its true too netscape had such a monopoly going thats how i first started out on it. it came packaged with some isp package haaaaaaaaahahahaha now they get fucked into the ground by microsoft and whine like little schoolgirls pms'ing haha

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Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	MS did a ton of things to intimidate vendors many illegal Yep! Many states including ours declared the contracts null and void due to them being signed under coercement and duress. And the leading states still haven't given in like Dubya's followers.

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payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	i give credit to bill gates and microsoft they owned the software market, and took everybody out it is great if the other companies had such great products they would be #1 as well, but they aren't, so what does that show microsoft started out with nothing, and became the next biggest thing, kudos to them 90% of the people who chat on here wouldn't be anywhere w/o microsoft, infact, 99% probably unless more of you rely on linux and mac os to surf the web :P