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Old 06-16-2002, 02:06 PM   #1
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top spot on Hun and sublime

Anyone have experience buying gallery spots from sublime or Hun? Hun is at like 1.8 mill and sublime about 1 mill

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Old 06-16-2002, 02:09 PM   #2
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Old 06-16-2002, 02:12 PM   #3
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Yup the best place on earth to advertise pay-porn is at a place giving it away for free. It's cool to see so many people catching on to this concept.
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Old 06-16-2002, 02:13 PM   #5
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Pipe you promote the same stuff i do...Does it work out?
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Old 06-16-2002, 02:36 PM   #6
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Pipe just puts up gay pics of him and his boyfriends and he gets tons of $$$
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Old 06-16-2002, 02:39 PM   #7
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I know a guy who buys spots at the hun and others and if you do it right then its very worth it.
Ive seen his stats with my own eyes and hes doing about 1:10 1:15 with big $40 per sale sponsors.
I even saw 1:1 stats from a while back...from pure tgp traffic.

Its actually pretty simple to achieve but you need some sources for it....own content, own tours and stuff...
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Old 06-16-2002, 02:41 PM   #8
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I would say it is definately worth
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Old 06-16-2002, 02:43 PM   #9
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I know a guy who buys spots at the hun and others and if you do it right then its very worth it.
Ive seen his stats with my own eyes and hes doing about 1:10 1:15 with big $40 per sale sponsors.
I even saw 1:1 stats from a while back...from pure tgp traffic.

Its actually pretty simple to achieve but you need some sources for it....own content, own tours and stuff...
With tgp traffic?
That sounds weird
With a toplisting at thehun you should get atleast 5000 clicks which would result in over 300 sales
I think it should be 1:150 or so.
Unless he uses textlinks like "JOIN NOW FOR $40"
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Old 06-16-2002, 02:52 PM   #10
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I know a guy who buys spots at the hun and others and if you do it right then its very worth it.
Ive seen his stats with my own eyes and hes doing about 1:10 1:15 with big $40 per sale sponsors.
I even saw 1:1 stats from a while back...from pure tgp traffic.
wtf? and i thought my 1:85 was good!
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Old 06-16-2002, 02:54 PM   #11
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Hehe...and i swear to god im not bullshitting you...i saw it with my very own eyes, directly from the sponsor admin
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Old 06-16-2002, 02:57 PM   #12
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That conversion sounds all great and wonderful, but it doesn't mean shit. The only number that matters is how many sales did he get from that paid listing?

He could have got a ratio of 1:10, but only made 5 sales.
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Old 06-16-2002, 02:59 PM   #13
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Dont worry about the sales...he prolly makes more sales in a week than most of these guys here in 2 months.
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Old 06-16-2002, 03:04 PM   #14
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i have stable 1:50 -60 with "***bucks and this is not on a single day this is over periods... really great.. gota looooove some sponsors
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Old 06-16-2002, 03:06 PM   #15
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That conversion sounds all great and wonderful, but it doesn't mean shit. The only number that matters is how many sales did he get from that paid listing?

He could have got a ratio of 1:10, but only made 5 sales.
Amen! Ratios mean shit. Talk about profit margin.

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Old 06-16-2002, 03:09 PM   #16
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Amen! Ratios mean shit. Talk about profit margin.

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Old 06-16-2002, 03:12 PM   #17
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I know of someone who does most of his promotion buying spots at the hun.

He spends about $15k a month on advertising. He hits all the big tgp's.
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Old 06-16-2002, 03:14 PM   #18
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Only newbies talk about ratios.

Ratios don't mean crap.

Anyone can get a low conversion ratio if they filter their traffic through custom tours and shit like that, but it doesn't mean that you're making more sales. You might even be making less sales than you could have.
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Old 06-16-2002, 03:21 PM   #19
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HOLY SHIT BATMAN do you fuckfaces read what i just wrote??? YES he makes TONS of sales...every week....
The first asswiper that replies with "ratios are shit, does he make more than 2 sales a week" will get his skull kicked in by me.
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Old 06-16-2002, 03:23 PM   #20
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Damn, i didnt even see the newbie part...brownbear -> fuck off.
You are talking about newbies and im talking about persons who make more in a day then you in 2 weeks...so shut your face about newbies.
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Old 06-16-2002, 03:24 PM   #21
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Old 06-16-2002, 03:28 PM   #22
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I think its interesting when other people make assumptions about how much money other people make.
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Old 06-16-2002, 03:29 PM   #23
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Ok cool, maybe you make alot of money, i dont know and i dont care but dont bash me just because im telling about someones stats and after i already told hes making ALOT of sales you still call me a newbie because im talking about conversion...thats bs.
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Old 06-16-2002, 03:31 PM   #24
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Ive seen his stats with my own eyes and hes doing about 1:10 1:15 with big $40 per sale sponsors.
With Free e-zine I'd believe it.. with anything else not possible period even if you say $40/sign-up. Otherwise, we'd see his name next to Bill Gates. Now if you are talking 1:10 and 1 sign-up that's very possible. Anyways, Hun and Sublime are both good. Sublime was much better when they didn't trade traffic But make sure you are one of the best gallery makers out there otherwise if you are a newbie you may come back to me.
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With Free e-zine I'd believe it.. with anything else not possible period even if you say $40/sign-up. Otherwise, we'd see his name next to Bill Gates. Now if you are talking 1:10 and 1 sign-up that's very possible. Anyways, Hun and Sublime are both good. Sublime was much better when they didn't trade traffic But make sure you are one of the best gallery makers out there otherwise if you are a newbie you may come back to me.
Dude, do you think i have any reason to lie about someone elses stats?
Check my other 800 posts and you will see i never talk shit...
Oh man, i shouldve never said this cause its obvious some people cant handle it.
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Old 06-16-2002, 03:38 PM   #26
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Battus, I'm not trying to bash you. I just see so many people make posts and talking about conversion ratios, when conversion ratios don't mean a thing.

By the way, I don't actually think you're a newbie, but most of the people I see posting about conversion ratios are newbies.
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Old 06-16-2002, 03:40 PM   #27
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Well i think im long enough in this biz to not be considered a newbie.
I know what you mean tho..if someone makes 2 sales at 1:10 yeah then it means shit but i already mentioned several times above that this isnt the case.

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Dude, do you think i have any reason to lie about someone elses stats?
Check my other 800 posts and you will see i never talk shit...
Oh man, i shouldve never said this cause its obvious some people cant handle it.
I believe your friend has a great signup ratio, but how many clicks is he drawing?
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3 clicks a day and he makes 10 bucks a month....this is getting boring.
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Old 06-16-2002, 03:46 PM   #30
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Anyone is willing to list here the prices of galleries listing on bigger TGPs?
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anyone else wondering why battuss is obsessed with adamently defending his "friend"'s income?
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hey battus, is it me, or is partycontent.com not working properly?
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hey battus, is it me, or is partycontent.com not working properly?
Uhm, its working perfectly fine here?
What error do you get?
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Pipe you promote the same stuff i do...Does it work out?

Honestly it use to be Ok, like November to Feb, but it wouldnt be worth your time if your hosting movies... Everything Ox is super exposed on the Hun..... Bleat666 (i dont know if you know him or not) has run about 25 ads in the last 3 months and has pretty much saturated the Huns traffic, I ran a few times, Did ok, basically cause I dindt have to pay for Bandwidth
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Just to inject a bit of sense into the pissing.

Conversion ratios USUALLY don't mean shit. However, that said:

They are very useful tools when you are doing an apples to apples comparison - ie, this week we buy a spot at The Hun, and send it to our tour.. 100k uniques, X conversion ratio.

Next week we buy a spot at SleazyDream, 50k (no idea) uniques, X conversion ratio - to the exact tour. This tells us the relative quality of the traffic, and is extremely useful. However, it's very hard to seperate this traffic unless you are using some scripting, like sending the surfers to the same tour, but marking them..

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It's not a big fucking secret.

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Old 06-16-2002, 07:16 PM   #37
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Ya bandwidth will probably be a killer...We'll see...I start tommorow on a big one so I'll let you know how things go
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The listing @ Hun is too expensive,

by a matter of chance you may not even make it back
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If you build a custom tour

that links only to the sponsors join page

ratio = low

1:10 ratio on a sign up page to a well qualified surfer is pretty good but nothing so special.
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Old 06-16-2002, 09:06 PM   #41
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All this talk about conversion. GRRRR...


Look stats are stats, none of them mean shit if used improperly, we know this.

A stats teacher once pointed out the strong correlation between the growth in population in Louisiana and the receding of the shoreline, but obviously the number of people is not causing the state to sink.

Even the most convincing of correlations and such are useless without common sense. Obviously, you cannot expect blind click traffic to convert as well as direct join pages hit from a tour.

Bottom Line: Anyone actually have profitability numbers on this sort of paid spot that they'd be willing to share?
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A stats teacher once pointed out the strong correlation between the growth in population in Louisiana and the receding of the shoreline, but obviously the number of people is not causing the state to sink.
i dunno... some of those cajuns are pretty fat.
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Some times better idea to buy spots in medium size TGP - not much traffic (less bw bill), but not too much freeloaders - working for me this way.
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How about buying traffic at searchengines like searchhound...?
(Pay4Click)
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Hehe...and i swear to god im not bullshitting you...i saw it with my very own eyes, directly from the sponsor admin
That must be Ken? I've seen his stats too - makes 40K a month on good months.
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No price's anywhere so maybe it is a secret why not post the cost to advertise instead of having to email thats a pain in the ass. When I want to see how much something cost I don't like to wait.

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