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Old 06-17-2002, 10:24 AM   #51
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If true, sorry to hear that.



this is very true...

as for low pricing why rape the adult webmasters who make this whole industry go around huh might i remind you we are a community of webmasters where it's a i'll scratch your back if you scratch mine. and if i can make it easier for others to afford what would cost them thousands elsewhere why not our company doesn't need to lower prices to make money we have 4 fulltime designers and i just like to make sure the salery they get paid is for working not chatting on boards and doing anything else where

as far as the corp. logo design we have made more then enough logos for that prices and the clients where very pleased most of which use that logo on shirts, hats, pens anything so i don't see why your so pissed with our low prices other then you may think we are stealing your work but when you got it you got it and if you don't i'm sorry to say that your gonna loose in this rate race!
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Old 06-17-2002, 10:58 AM   #52
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When people tell me my prices are too much, I raise them more.

Not that I am directing this post towards anyone, but I really hate people who complain about prices being too much.

I would never offer my services as a graphic designer because I know what a good site design can do($$$), and to design something for $500... well let's just say its more profitable to keep the design and know it will make me several times that amount in the long run.

I am in this industry for one reason.
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Old 06-17-2002, 11:03 AM   #53
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as far as the corp. logo design we have made more then enough logos for that prices and the clients where very pleased most of which use that logo on shirts, hats, pens anything so i don't see why your so pissed with our low prices other then you may think we are stealing your work but when you got it you got it and if you don't i'm sorry to say that your gonna loose in this rate race!
What are you defending?

Its damn sure not your linguistics.

Not sure if you are even referring to me but I am the one addressing the price thing so.

I would rather not work than work for less than I am worth.

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Old 06-17-2002, 11:21 AM   #54
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as for low pricing why rape the adult webmasters who make this whole industry go around huh might i remind you we are a community of webmasters where it's a i'll scratch your back if you scratch mine. and if i can make it easier for others to afford what would cost them thousands elsewhere why not our company doesn't need to lower prices to make money we have 4 fulltime designers and i just like to make sure the salery they get paid is for working not chatting on boards and doing anything else where

In the long run you're going to spoil it for yourself and a lot of other designers. Right now 4 sites a month may make you enough money, but 6 months later you'll be making a site a day just to pay your rent.
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Old 06-17-2002, 11:25 AM   #55
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And all that bullshit about helping webmasters is just that : bullshit. Everything here is about making money, and you want more clients, but you'll ruin it for everyone. It'll be exactly what happened to traffic trading scripts - with all these rotten free scripts that do nothing for your traffic except suck away 5 % to popup hells, the good scripts are having to give themselves away free as well.
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Old 06-17-2002, 11:26 AM   #56
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And all that bullshit about helping webmasters is just that : bullshit. Everything here is about making money, and you want more clients, but you'll ruin it for everyone. It'll be exactly what happened to traffic trading scripts - with all these rotten free scripts that do nothing for your traffic except suck away 5 % to popup hells, the good scripts are having to give themselves away free as well.
This week I was told "there's no way I pay more than 75 bucks an AVS"

thanks Shay with your 15 dollar AVS specials? LOL

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Old 06-17-2002, 11:34 AM   #57
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Funny..... its like those cam girls that charge 99 cents a minute and then bitch because the girl who charges 4.99 a minute makes the top ten list. Yet they don't think they should charge more than they do for that service, and feel bad for the guys who can only afford (yeah right) 99 cents a minute. Gimme a break.

The loyalty in this industry is gauged by the numbers on the check. The bigger the figure, the more loyalty you will receive.
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Old 06-17-2002, 12:25 PM   #58
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some very valid points i c here but i don't care the deal stands as it was when i started this thread hate me now love me later
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Old 06-17-2002, 12:45 PM   #59
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We need another, we have 2 world-class guys on staff and lovin' it. But we've got some truly amazing things in the works, and need more help.
Hi Lens give me a break plz i would love to work for you
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Old 06-17-2002, 04:19 PM   #60
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Old 06-17-2002, 04:38 PM   #61
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... AMP, I have yours and his ICQ logs and can make you ALL look like idiots. Remember...the whole design contest? Wasn't it supposed to be a "new site" designed between "6/1 and 6/7?" Why did he show me the "winning site ( and I am using that term EXCEPTIONALLY LOOSELY)" on "Friday, April 12th 16:41:37 2002" ...
Well, my popcorn has gotten stale on this one- may as well tune back into the WWE (where it's as real as everything here is apparently).
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Old 06-17-2002, 08:14 PM   #62
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say what?!? ^^^See above Message^^^

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Old 06-17-2002, 08:25 PM   #63
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say what?!? ^^^See above Message^^^

Last edited by Eric_aka_RedEyes on 06-18-2002 at 12:49 AM
That is to say- I am _NOT_ "Eric_aka_RedEyes" nor have I ever appeared as him on TV, but why is my message being edited by this person? And how?? And why???
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Old 06-17-2002, 09:22 PM   #64
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That is to say- I am _NOT_ "Eric_aka_RedEyes" nor have I ever appeared as him on TV, but why is my message being edited by this person? And how?? And why???
maybe you said something someone didnt like ;)
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Old 06-17-2002, 11:32 PM   #65
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So what did he say that someone didnt like?
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Old 06-18-2002, 03:56 AM   #66
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So what did he say that someone didnt like?
Must have been about the contest and Adult.com, slander if you will
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Old 06-18-2002, 04:09 AM   #67
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What suprises me that the persons getting accused here have
not responded yet...I'm not jumping to conclusions here but
getting slapped around with these kind of accusations is not
something to just let pass by...right?

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p.s. I can't wait for the next designer showdown it has been highly entertaining.
No offence I have seen awesome designs but the drama that
came with it was the icing on the cake
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Old 06-18-2002, 04:22 AM   #68
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I'm hiring professional lawyers to argue my case next time. I'll be no less entertaining than an episode of Perry Mason.
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What suprises me that the persons getting accused here have
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You can say that again Mr Garrisson.

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Old 06-18-2002, 10:29 AM   #70
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wow this thing is getting big and bad
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Old 06-18-2002, 12:42 PM   #71
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wow this thing is getting big and bad
Well BIG it gets I'm still waiting for it to get bad
I guess I have to make me some fresh popcorn

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You, Lens and GFY/adult.com are free to live in a dillusionary world where you all think your shit and designers are the best. I have ICQ logs...and you clearly stated that the whole design contest was for your personal publicity.

AMP, I have yours and his ICQ logs and can make you ALL look like idiots. Remember...the whole design contest? Wasn't it supposed to be a "new site" designed between "6/1 and 6/7?" Why did he show me the "winning site ( and I am using that term EXCEPTIONALLY LOOSELY)" on "Friday, April 12th 16:41:37 2002" and ask me to make a site that would look "as crazy as that" when you guys had me do one just like it? Inquiring minds want to know. But I am sure you'll run for cover behind Lens "changing the rules to only 2" so that he could make sure to keep his and your ego in tact. If you're allowed to submit a new site and he's allowed to submit one that was designed prior to mid-April, then why weren't the other designers allowed to touch up their shit when they were placed under a hard deadline?!?
Zayne's accusations are still undisputed. Could it be because they are true and further exposure is being avoided?
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I haven't a clue, but i'm sure eager to see what happens.
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