It stopped amazing me a couple years ago. I guess when you get a lot of surfers together and some "webmasters" god only knows the shit that will come out of their mouth.

I doubt there is more then 10% of the people who post here that make more then $2,000 a week. I bet 1/2 the people here dont even make more then $500 a month from adult.


I guess the guy who started this thread wouldn't want to be an affiliate either, Affiliate site owner would know the same info about your traffic and could use it on their own sites themselves or worse, tell their other affiliates which of their sites convert the best. :winkwink:

How do they see traffic sources ???? please explain this to me.

If i sent SE traffic from an ad word to my site, www.site.com/123 and i use nats how will he know it came from search engine. I am not familar with nats setup, is that possible ???? or did you mean to say he knows which pages/promos/content converts the best ?

Nothing against John or NATS, but if the person making the post is genuinely concerned then let him ask his questions. It's apparent that a few others were concerned about it too.

Will76, how about you just shut up about shit you know nothing about then?

NATS would have access to which affiliates are whales, how they get traffic, what's converting for them, keywords used in the referrering url's from major search engines or ppc campaigns, etc..

That's not to say that they're using that data, but they CAN access it if they're so inclined.

I thought PB was still going strong. I guess I'm just out of the loop or something.

I knew and i'm a big fan of teen dolls:)

Dickhead not only am i entitled to my comments but I just signed up to NATS so :321GFY

Someone (i think it was duke but am too lazy to go back and check) already posted the reason why this thread really is a waste of bandwidth. It boils down to trust...if you don't trust your affiliate system you shouldn't be using it. period. Busting John's nuts for something that is common knowlegde just makes the person starting this thread look stupid....it's no wonder he posted under a fake nic.

just my $0.02

No one is forcing anyone to use NATS. What's the fucking point of this thread???

To answer your question, yes some keyword searches do show up very clearly in server stats.

Exactly, but I thought I'd respond to you like you were responding to others. You suggest that the amount of money they make determines whether or not they can express a concern. I think this will end up benefitting John and NATS because his previous post in #63 will probably alleviate a lot of the concerns this poster had, and others who will be lurking but feel more comfortable about NATS now. :2 cents:

Understood, but see my previous post too bro.. affiliates might have had some concerns too but may not now that some of the points were addressed. If not for this thread, they may not have been addressed and may have given pause to either affiliates or potential NATS customers.

man i bet he doesn't own a program for sure. just want to stir some shit against john. pussy! :Oh crap

you raise a valid point dude..i am just old fashioned...if you have a problem you deal with it in private...not in public.

:thumbsup

No I suggest in general, that there are a lot of people people on this site who are surfers or claim to be "webmasters" who just post for drama, or to stir shit, or because they are board and not here to make money.

Those comments where not even in regards to the people posting in the thread but for the board as a whole. I wasn't even singling anyone out but responding to John by the way and I also asked someone else a question, that was it. Not sure where you going with this or what point you are trying to make.

You're a fucking pussy

Needs repeating

Wouldn't affiliates be concerned sending traffic to any affiliate company then. NATS would be 1 extra person in addition to the affiliate company that would have access to some info, true. But unless you advertise your own sites and take payment by check in the mail, always going to have someone having access to your data in some form or fashion. Shit even then you better host your own sites, lol.

so if they sent the keyword search traffic to their own page which linked to the NATS program they would have nothing to worry about, It would only be if they used thier AFF code on the traffic source it self, correct ?

Just to make this clear again, although it was said multiple times.

We do not HAVE TO HAVE access to your system. We install NATS 95% of the time (meaning, not always) and at that point have an admin login to the NATS install. That login can be deleted, disabled, banned, blocked, or edited by the owner of NATS. On top of that NATS can be IP Protected so it would be impossible for us to get in.

Server SSH Data is never kept by us for security reasons. Ask our clients, many LOVE (sarcasm) the fact we ask them for login info every single time they have a problem and we need to take a look.

The only reason we log into NATS installs is to do upgrades of the version or to look at and fix problems the owner has.

100 shady shits :helpme

Don't you have access to the database? How else do you verify NATS and CCBill are in sync for example in order to determine whether there are discrepancies or not?

We can't discuss this as its a legal issue at this point.

lol
took the words right out of my mouth.........lol
good seeing you in FL Juicy !

That's fine with me, was just explaining to Nathan why the assumption is there that you have access to the information in the database.