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Old 06-15-2002, 09:04 AM   #1
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FreeEzine Bucks Ratio?

My ratio is 1:15 using FreeEzinebucks.

Does that suck, is it average, or is it good with this particular sponsor?

Thanks for the feedback!
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Old 06-15-2002, 09:07 AM   #2
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Mine is 1:7 It sometimes goes down as low as 1:3
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Old 06-15-2002, 09:16 AM   #3
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i think it always depends on where the traffic you send comes from... but 1:15 sounds good to me
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Old 06-15-2002, 09:25 AM   #4
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i'm at 1:25 with 404 traffic
guess it isnt bad
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Old 06-15-2002, 09:28 AM   #5
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1:17 is my avarage ...
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Old 06-15-2002, 10:59 AM   #6
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Thanks for the responses. On one other major adult sponsor, my ratio is in the stratosphere 1:250 if I am lucky. Getting ready to pull the rip cord.
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Old 06-15-2002, 11:07 AM   #7
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1:15 is decent. I have seen as good as 1:4 -- and as bad as 1:200, but I think any webmaster should be able to accomplish 1:15 in their program with just a little bit of effort.
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Old 06-15-2002, 11:09 AM   #8
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1:11 so far today. 1:20 with 4freebucks this period.
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Old 06-15-2002, 02:02 PM   #9
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Thanks for the responses. On one other major adult sponsor, my ratio is in the stratosphere 1:250 if I am lucky. Getting ready to pull the rip cord.
1:250 isn't bad if it's a PSU or recurring sponsor.

I pretty much stay consistently around 1:15 or so w/ freeezinebucks
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Old 06-15-2002, 02:04 PM   #10
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btw
whats your conversion with new yearbooks?
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Old 06-15-2002, 02:21 PM   #11
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Old 06-15-2002, 03:23 PM   #12
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Yearbook Ratios:

Anime: 1:9
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I forgot to ask...Which ones convert the best for you? It looks like my best signups are for "ANIME".

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Old 07-11-2002, 10:38 AM   #13
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Anal and Anime are doing best for me.

Are there any niches FEB doesn't have a site for yet ?
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Old 07-11-2002, 10:40 AM   #14
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Are there any niches FEB doesn't have a site for yet ?
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Old 07-11-2002, 10:40 AM   #15
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I don't remember them having a preggo site unless they've added it since the last time I looked.
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Old 07-11-2002, 11:21 AM   #16
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Anal and Anime are doing best for me.

Are there any niches FEB doesn't have a site for yet ?
There are always niches that haven't been explored. They're releasing more next week.

My ratio is anything from 1:20-1:35. Yes, I suck. I can convert some PPS sites at 1:50, but I can't convert free ezines. Go figure.
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Old 07-11-2002, 12:49 PM   #17
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Im doing about 1:75 dont ask me.. but I guess Im terrible at this.
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Old 07-11-2002, 01:19 PM   #18
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I'm doing 1-60 atm. Don't worry too much about people with better stats. Some are just plain lying others filter their traffic so the stuff getting through is better quality. At the end of the day though if you send 1000 not too qualified clicks at 1-50 or qualify them a little first so that only 200 click though but you get 1-10, it's the same amount on your cheque.
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Old 07-11-2002, 01:35 PM   #19
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Good point about people lying about their stats. I've seen people on a msg board say they are making thousands and thousands, then the same guy is on another board crying about being broke or asking noob questions.
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Old 07-11-2002, 01:41 PM   #20
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Old 07-11-2002, 01:43 PM   #21
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... and you also gotta remember there's people sending just 10-20 clicks a month who have a good chance of getting lucky and making 1-10 or better.
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Old 07-11-2002, 01:47 PM   #22
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1:10

I made a whole dollar so far
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Old 07-11-2002, 01:55 PM   #23
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hey guys i rechecked my stats and its 1:8 but i have got only 7K uniques to that gallery and 74 unique clicks and 9 signups but i just started so my traffic is not that high tipsy
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Old 07-11-2002, 02:10 PM   #24
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hey.. this program is so fucking awesome that even CE is copying it ! Rock on Hawg!
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Old 07-11-2002, 02:18 PM   #25
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hey.. this program is so fucking awesome that even CE is copying it ! Rock on Hawg!
We did not copy anything. The models are completely different.

We have been doing double opt in since 1997.

We pay $1.50 as opposed to $1.00

We also pay $15 on upsells, Hawg doesn't do that.

We pay 50% on dialer revenue, Hawg doesn't do that.

We email daily newletters and pay you $15 for upsells, Hawg doesn't do that.
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Hawg comes out with an Email Magazine program.

CE comes out with an Email Magazine program, and calls it innovating, unique, original.

Someone's kidding themselves.
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Old 07-11-2002, 02:25 PM   #27
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Hawg comes out with an Email Magazine program.

CE comes out with an Email Magazine program, and calls it innovating, unique, original.

Someone's kidding themselves.
Risymail4Free and Teen-Mail4Free have been email magazines since 2000 - wake up!!
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Old 07-11-2002, 02:28 PM   #28
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Hey,

I'm pushing 1:14 overall average. My typical days are as low as 1:11 but then there'll be days where a server is down, or my visitors decide to be non-horny, and it gets jacked up to 1:17.

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Old 07-11-2002, 02:29 PM   #29
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We did not copy anything. The models are completely different.

We have been doing double opt in since 1997.

We pay $1.50 as opposed to $1.00

We also pay $15 on upsells, Hawg doesn't do that.

We pay 50% on dialer revenue, Hawg doesn't do that.

We email daily newletters and pay you $15 for upsells, Hawg doesn't do that.
Fantasyman is correct, they aren't copying Free Ezine Bucks.

They're copying Wegcash instead
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Fantasyman is correct, they aren't copying Free Ezine Bucks.

They're copying Wegcash instead
Copying Both!
But, slap a new paintjob on it and call it Unique.
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Fantasyman is correct, they aren't copying Free Ezine Bucks.

They're copying Wegcash instead
We had this model before Join4Free
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Old 07-11-2002, 02:35 PM   #32
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Old 07-11-2002, 02:42 PM   #33
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Never understood the point in slagging a program for being/not being unique myself. Bottom line is always does it convert whether it was or wasn't first on the market or is or isn't unique.
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Fantasyman,

What kind of conversions are you seeing network-wide, overall? I'll consider trying your program out, if it converts okay.

Thanks,
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I put up a site for xxx e-zines, put an ad up for it on a non-adult site & went from 1:15 to 1:10 & doubled my sales...or opt-ins...whatever ya wanna call it.
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Erock, 1:15 with FEB? Then you switchd over, and it went to 1:10 AND got more click throughs?
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Fantasyman,

What kind of conversions are you seeing network-wide, overall? I'll consider trying your program out, if it converts okay.

Thanks,
Kevin
Some folks are converting at 1:6 others around 1:15 overall is too new to rate.
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Erock, 1:15 with FEB? Then you switchd over, and it went to 1:10 AND got more click throughs?
No. I was FEB all along. Before I just had a page off another adult but non-related site of mine, but once I put up a site strictly for the ezines w/ a domain indicating that it was fee ezines, my ratio got much better. Actually, last period I was 1:17 and now, w/ the ezine site up I'm 1:10 & have made double the money.

'Course, I did have an ad up, but I tried buying traffic (not worth it ALL!), linking to the page & now an ad on a non-adult site & that seems to be working GREAT.
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We did not copy anything. The models are completely different.

We have been doing double opt in since 1997.

We pay $1.50 as opposed to $1.00

We also pay $15 on upsells, Hawg doesn't do that.

We pay 50% on dialer revenue, Hawg doesn't do that.

We email daily newletters and pay you $15 for upsells, Hawg doesn't do that.

Hawg pay in all world, U Not
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Whatever -- fantasy man has been around forever.. in fact, if I'm not mistaken, sends some of their traffic to fantasyman. It takes some skill to convert with fantasy man's programs, but it is entirely doable.

Anyways, you guys having problem converting traffic.. FILTER FILTER FILTER. A lot of people are saying stuff like "if you filter, your ratio is better, but you're check is lower".. YES and NO!

You filter, and keep presenting more options until everyone bites on something. Your FEBucks check might be lower, but you might sell 15 reccuring subscriptions to COHF at the same time.

Use your heads kids. Fantasyman rocks, and so do the Hawgs. It's all about making programs work together to compliment each other in a campaign.

Yesterday I figured out how to squeeze and extra $20/day out of my existing traffic. Is that a shitload of money? No. Is that a shitload of money for doing nothing? Yes.
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