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|  08-12-2006, 06:56 PM | #1 | 
| Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role:  Join Date: Nov 2001 
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				I'm lost?  I feel so lost & misguided in the mainstream?
			 Mainstream is so much different than porn? Content is so much harder to get. Link trading & traffic.. OMFG I don't even know where to start, other than SE. Sponsors.. well, there's a fucking gazillion of them out there & fuck who knows if they pay or not or whatever,, & well, it's so much fucking easier for ME to do porn.. that's what I know.. Fuck, I can build a pornsite in less than hour & have traffic pumped into it in a matter of minutes.. with mainstream, fucking days building this site.. & really, I doubt I would even make a 10th of the revenue that I make in porn.. I don't know.. well, fuck if it happens, great & if it fucking don't, great too.. | 
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|  08-12-2006, 06:57 PM | #2 | 
| Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role:  Join Date: Nov 2001 
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				 | and on another note, fucking mainstream sites have way more fucking popups & consoles than porn does.. lol   | 
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|  08-12-2006, 07:09 PM | #3 | 
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				 | It is different than adult, but definitely profitable. WG 
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|  08-12-2006, 07:09 PM | #4 | 
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				 | It all starts in the forums.  Most of them dont put up with bullshit or flaming either.  Get 10-100 posts on 10 different mainstream forums.  Sitepoint.com i've heard is good, dnforum.com is a good domain forum, not sure what else is out there for mainstream. | 
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|  08-12-2006, 07:12 PM | #5 | |
| Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role:  Join Date: Nov 2001 
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 thanks for reminding me,, | |
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|  08-12-2006, 07:15 PM | #6 | |
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|  08-12-2006, 08:23 PM | #7 | 
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				 | swimming in the mainstream is such a lame dream. no method to the madness. beat my head against the wall. 
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|  08-12-2006, 08:41 PM | #8 | 
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				 | To tell your the truth,  I think I get shaved more with mainstream  
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|  08-12-2006, 09:48 PM | #9 | 
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				 | mainstream - hmm no thanks k thx bye? 
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|  08-12-2006, 09:51 PM | #10 | 
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				 | Mainstream? What are you doing in the mainstream? 
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|  08-12-2006, 09:51 PM | #11 | 
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				 | There is no money in mainstream. 
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|  08-13-2006, 09:21 AM | #12 | |
| Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role:  Join Date: Nov 2001 
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|  08-13-2006, 09:56 AM | #13 | 
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				 | If you expected a learning curve when you started adult expect a learning curve  when your starting mainstream. 
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|  08-13-2006, 09:58 AM | #14 | 
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				 | Why do you use question marks? Your thread title makes no sense. | 
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|  08-13-2006, 10:43 AM | #15 | |
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|  08-13-2006, 10:58 AM | #16 | 
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				 | I've started my first mainstream site about 3 days ago, I don't excpect to make any real money from it in the next 12 months | 
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|  08-13-2006, 11:20 AM | #17 | |
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 That's what somebody might wanna do in mainstream 
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|  08-13-2006, 11:26 AM | #18 | 
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				 | i'll hope you'll be lucky   
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|  08-13-2006, 11:32 AM | #19 | 
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				 | good luck bro 
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|  08-13-2006, 11:35 AM | #20 | 
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				 | The same rules about adult are present in mainstream and are even more influencial than in adult : CONTENT IS KING. If you've got good content, people will come, but if you're rehashing the same old shit as someone else, you're going to be grinding for less money. Its a cut throat world out there and you have to be the strongest and smartest to survive 
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|  08-13-2006, 11:35 AM | #21 | 
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				 | The same rules about adult are present in mainstream and are even more influencial than in adult : CONTENT IS KING. If you've got good content, people will come, but if you're rehashing the same old shit as someone else, you're going to be grinding for less money. Its a cut throat world out there and you have to be the strongest and smartest to survive 
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|  08-13-2006, 11:37 AM | #22 | 
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				 | Damn I think I broke the board   
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|  08-13-2006, 11:46 AM | #23 | |
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 content is king if you're Bangbros or Lightspeed in adult - same applies to mainstream if you're ESPN or something like that. Quality content sites in mainstream take more resources. I will guarantee you that nobody on GFY who claims success in mainstream can show a content site that is anything but spam of some type. hmmm.......... actually i do know a few GFYers that have decent mainstream content sites but they don't make that much money. 
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|  08-13-2006, 12:44 PM | #24 | 
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				 | Mainstream is awesome. Much of the competition lacks competence, free incoming links are ridiculously easy to get, etc. You just need to choose the right target. For example, make a few sites about your interests, hobbies, or whatever, and apply your knowledge from adult to them. In many cases, you can quite easily become a dominant player in your niche. The trick is to stay away from the obvious money-makers and internet-specific areas (dating, online gambling, software, etc.), since those usually do have a lot of competition. 
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|  08-13-2006, 12:44 PM | #25 | |
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 You dont have freesites, avs sites and tgp galleries in mainstream. I dont even know where to start. So you make sites that just sit there waiting to get spidered? And on ebay people only make money by charging extra for the shipping, and you have to pachage stuff up and mail it all out. | |
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|  08-13-2006, 01:08 PM | #26 | 
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				 | mainstream is so much more fulfilling than adult has ever been. so many more ways to make money too. | 
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|  08-13-2006, 01:11 PM | #27 | 
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				 | Mainstream doesnt really have a community like GFY  but for sponsors n shit i listen to http://www.webmasterradio.fm/ and sometimes they mention a board or something good place to start  
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|  08-13-2006, 01:22 PM | #28 | |
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|  08-13-2006, 01:37 PM | #29 | 
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				 | What is this "mainstream" you speak of? 
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|  08-13-2006, 05:49 PM | #30 | 
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				 | The best part of mainstream is if you have a decent site and traffic, there is a pretty large market to sell your site if it's just not working out for you.   I'm about to get back into mainstream after taking a break from it. | 
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|  08-13-2006, 06:08 PM | #31 | 
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				 | Mainstream is harder, more competetive...but it is much more profitable if you can be at the top of the pyramid. | 
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|  08-13-2006, 06:10 PM | #32 | 
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				 | There is no money to be made in mainstream. | 
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|  08-13-2006, 06:11 PM | #33 | 
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|  08-13-2006, 06:14 PM | #34 | 
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				 | I'm getting some mainstream projects going.   I figure since most of my content is text, relevant, current and non-adult the search engines might like me better.  We'll see. | 
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|  08-13-2006, 06:19 PM | #35 | 
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				 | I wrote my thoughts on mainstream in this thread a few weeks ago. | 
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|  08-13-2006, 06:20 PM | #36 | 
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				 | i just don't see how content can't be rehashed from somewhere else in mainstream or adult. its all gotta come from somewhere unless you are writing articles or something. if you're spamming the search engines or can spam mailing i'd imagine its much easier as its not about getting people to like your site as it is just getting as many eyes and click throughs to sponsors as possible. 
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|  08-14-2006, 04:46 PM | #37 | |
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 lol I did not get that at all  thought it was like blaiming him for being in mainstream  
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|  08-14-2006, 04:50 PM | #38 | 
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				 | you need to know where to get the traffic, plus build sites that run themselves. updating sites every day is a pain. 
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|  08-14-2006, 04:50 PM | #39 | |
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|  08-14-2006, 05:11 PM | #40 | |
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  Nothing wrong with adult or mainstream. Lately, I've been doing better with my mainstream stuff as well. | |
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|  08-14-2006, 10:04 PM | #41 | 
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				 | good luck to you in swimming in mainstream   | 
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|  08-15-2006, 07:51 AM | #42 | |
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 i am trying my hand at mainstream websites...slowly. i have many ideas but they require much more work than adult though i have been doing some mainstream projects which do very well but its not website focused. 
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|  08-15-2006, 07:58 AM | #43 | 
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				 | There is no money in mainstream.... at least not for most adult webmasters.  Mainstream requires a complete shift in attitude, every deal you do will require contracts and conference calls. Many companies will simply refuse to do business with you if you are not big enough or aren't coming in through a personal referral. With that said however, mainstream is so crooked and willing to do virtually anything to make money. So if you do get "in" with the right people and have something good to sell you'll find yourself turning away deals. Mainstream takes a thick skin and some serious resolve. | 
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|  08-15-2006, 08:20 AM | #44 | 
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				 | yes mainstream sucks.  Try going to a mainstream chat board and work the same magic as you do here.  It does not last long. 
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|  08-15-2006, 09:50 AM | #45 | |
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|  08-15-2006, 09:11 PM | #46 | 
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				 | good luck, dude   
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