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spacedog 08-12-2006 06:56 PM

I'm lost? I feel so lost & misguided in the mainstream?
 
Mainstream is so much different than porn?

Content is so much harder to get.
Link trading & traffic.. OMFG I don't even know where to start, other than SE.
Sponsors.. well, there's a fucking gazillion of them out there & fuck who knows if they pay or not or whatever,, & well, it's so much fucking easier for ME to do porn.. that's what I know.. Fuck, I can build a pornsite in less than hour & have traffic pumped into it in a matter of minutes..
with mainstream, fucking days building this site.. & really, I doubt I would even make a 10th of the revenue that I make in porn..

I don't know.. well, fuck if it happens, great & if it fucking don't, great too..

spacedog 08-12-2006 06:57 PM

and on another note, fucking mainstream sites have way more fucking popups & consoles than porn does.. lol :1orglaugh

WiredGuy 08-12-2006 07:09 PM

It is different than adult, but definitely profitable.
WG

detoxed 08-12-2006 07:09 PM

It all starts in the forums. Most of them dont put up with bullshit or flaming either. Get 10-100 posts on 10 different mainstream forums. Sitepoint.com i've heard is good, dnforum.com is a good domain forum, not sure what else is out there for mainstream.

spacedog 08-12-2006 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detoxed
It all starts in the forums. Most of them dont put up with bullshit or flaming either. Get 10-100 posts on 10 different mainstream forums. Sitepoint.com i've heard is good, dnforum.com is a good domain forum, not sure what else is out there for mainstream.

Actually, I have accounts at both of them...

thanks for reminding me,,

TheJimmy 08-12-2006 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
It is different than adult, but definitely profitable.
WG

The setup is quite different...and definitely profitable.

:thumbsup

BlackCrayon 08-12-2006 08:23 PM

swimming in the mainstream is such a lame dream. no method to the madness. beat my head against the wall.

DBS.US 08-12-2006 08:41 PM

To tell your the truth, I think I get shaved more with mainstream:2 cents:

scottybuzz 08-12-2006 09:48 PM

mainstream - hmm no thanks

k thx bye?

EdgeXXX 08-12-2006 09:51 PM

Mainstream? What are you doing in the mainstream?

fr0gman 08-12-2006 09:51 PM

There is no money in mainstream.

spacedog 08-13-2006 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdgeXXX
Mainstream? What are you doing in the mainstream?

Working on a portal.. still searching around for things to add for content & revenue.. & got a YouTube clone going, but only 2 people uploaded videos.:(

Juilan 08-13-2006 09:56 AM

If you expected a learning curve when you started adult expect a learning curve when your starting mainstream.

wedouglas 08-13-2006 09:58 AM

Why do you use question marks? Your thread title makes no sense.

WiredGuy 08-13-2006 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ
Yes, but it does take a bit longer (6.5 fucking years).. starting to make more then my best paydays in porn.

I disagree, I've been doing adult for nearly 7 years and in less than 1 in mainstream, I'm doing better in mainstream. Apply what you know in adult and apply it to mainstream, you'd be surprised ;)
WG

Antonio 08-13-2006 10:58 AM

I've started my first mainstream site about 3 days ago, I don't excpect to make any real money from it in the next 12 months

polle54 08-13-2006 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdgeXXX
Mainstream? What are you doing in the mainstream?

I have a good friend who also used to post here who hasn't been working in 13 months because of mainstream making nearly $1k/day.

That's what somebody might wanna do in mainstream

Magix 08-13-2006 11:26 AM

i'll hope you'll be lucky :)

OG LennyT 08-13-2006 11:32 AM

good luck bro

NoWhErE 08-13-2006 11:35 AM

The same rules about adult are present in mainstream and are even more influencial than in adult : CONTENT IS KING.

If you've got good content, people will come, but if you're rehashing the same old shit as someone else, you're going to be grinding for less money.

Its a cut throat world out there and you have to be the strongest and smartest to survive

NoWhErE 08-13-2006 11:35 AM

The same rules about adult are present in mainstream and are even more influencial than in adult : CONTENT IS KING.

If you've got good content, people will come, but if you're rehashing the same old shit as someone else, you're going to be grinding for less money.

Its a cut throat world out there and you have to be the strongest and smartest to survive

NoWhErE 08-13-2006 11:37 AM

Damn I think I broke the board :(

Mutt 08-13-2006 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE
The same rules about adult are present in mainstream and are even more influencial than in adult : CONTENT IS KING.

If you've got good content, people will come, but if you're rehashing the same old shit as someone else, you're going to be grinding for less money.

Its a cut throat world out there and you have to be the strongest and smartest to survive

nah - the same rule applies in mainsteam as in adult - the scammers, spammers and parasites make the most.

content is king if you're Bangbros or Lightspeed in adult - same applies to mainstream if you're ESPN or something like that. Quality content sites in mainstream take more resources. I will guarantee you that nobody on GFY who claims success in mainstream can show a content site that is anything but spam of some type. hmmm.......... actually i do know a few GFYers that have decent mainstream content sites but they don't make that much money.

Libertine 08-13-2006 12:44 PM

Mainstream is awesome. Much of the competition lacks competence, free incoming links are ridiculously easy to get, etc.

You just need to choose the right target. For example, make a few sites about your interests, hobbies, or whatever, and apply your knowledge from adult to them. In many cases, you can quite easily become a dominant player in your niche.

The trick is to stay away from the obvious money-makers and internet-specific areas (dating, online gambling, software, etc.), since those usually do have a lot of competition.

niceanice 08-13-2006 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Apply what you know in adult and apply it to mainstream, you'd be surprised

What I know in adult revolves around making freesites, avs sits and tgp galleries.
You dont have freesites, avs sites and tgp galleries in mainstream.
I dont even know where to start.

So you make sites that just sit there waiting to get spidered?
And on ebay people only make money by charging extra for the shipping, and you have to pachage stuff up and mail it all out.

bdld 08-13-2006 01:08 PM

mainstream is so much more fulfilling than adult has ever been. so many more ways to make money too.

Chris 08-13-2006 01:11 PM

Mainstream doesnt really have a community like GFY
but for sponsors n shit
i listen to http://www.webmasterradio.fm/

and sometimes they mention a board or something

good place to start :)

EdgeXXX 08-13-2006 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polle54
I have a good friend who also used to post here who hasn't been working in 13 months because of mainstream making nearly $1k/day.

That's what somebody might wanna do in mainstream

Oh, I'm not saying there isn't money in mainstream; I make a LOT more money from my mainstream companies than I do in Adult. I was just asking sd what kind of projects he was working on in the mainstream world. :winkwink:

woj 08-13-2006 01:37 PM

What is this "mainstream" you speak of?

vanillaice 08-13-2006 05:49 PM

The best part of mainstream is if you have a decent site and traffic, there is a pretty large market to sell your site if it's just not working out for you.

I'm about to get back into mainstream after taking a break from it.

BlueWire 08-13-2006 06:08 PM

Mainstream is harder, more competetive...but it is much more profitable if you can be at the top of the pyramid.

X37375787 08-13-2006 06:10 PM

There is no money to be made in mainstream.

X37375787 08-13-2006 06:11 PM

:1orglaugh

Dagwolf 08-13-2006 06:14 PM

I'm getting some mainstream projects going. :thumbsup I figure since most of my content is text, relevant, current and non-adult the search engines might like me better. :thumbsup We'll see.

X37375787 08-13-2006 06:19 PM

I wrote my thoughts on mainstream in this thread a few weeks ago.

BlackCrayon 08-13-2006 06:20 PM

i just don't see how content can't be rehashed from somewhere else in mainstream or adult. its all gotta come from somewhere unless you are writing articles or something.

if you're spamming the search engines or can spam mailing i'd imagine its much easier as its not about getting people to like your site as it is just getting as many eyes and click throughs to sponsors as possible.

polle54 08-14-2006 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdgeXXX
Oh, I'm not saying there isn't money in mainstream; I make a LOT more money from my mainstream companies than I do in Adult. I was just asking sd what kind of projects he was working on in the mainstream world. :winkwink:


lol I did not get that at all :)
thought it was like blaiming him for being in mainstream :winkwink:

fris 08-14-2006 04:50 PM

you need to know where to get the traffic, plus build sites that run themselves.

updating sites every day is a pain.

Big_Red 08-14-2006 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon
swimming in the mainstream is such a lame dream. no method to the madness. beat my head against the wall.

quitter. :winkwink:

hent 08-14-2006 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
I disagree, I've been doing adult for nearly 7 years and in less than 1 in mainstream, I'm doing better in mainstream. Apply what you know in adult and apply it to mainstream, you'd be surprised ;)
WG

:)

Nothing wrong with adult or mainstream. Lately, I've been doing better with my mainstream stuff as well.

E$_manager 08-14-2006 10:04 PM

good luck to you in swimming in mainstream :)

BlackCrayon 08-15-2006 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big_Red
quitter. :winkwink:

not many black flag fans here i guess.

i am trying my hand at mainstream websites...slowly. i have many ideas but they require much more work than adult though i have been doing some mainstream projects which do very well but its not website focused.

Quick Buck 08-15-2006 07:58 AM

There is no money in mainstream.... at least not for most adult webmasters.

Mainstream requires a complete shift in attitude, every deal you do will require contracts and conference calls. Many companies will simply refuse to do business with you if you are not big enough or aren't coming in through a personal referral.

With that said however, mainstream is so crooked and willing to do virtually anything to make money. So if you do get "in" with the right people and have something good to sell you'll find yourself turning away deals.

Mainstream takes a thick skin and some serious resolve.

Tdog 08-15-2006 08:20 AM

yes mainstream sucks. Try going to a mainstream chat board and work the same magic as you do here. It does not last long.

Sosa 08-15-2006 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fris
you need to know where to get the traffic, plus build sites that run themselves.

updating sites every day is a pain.

Listen to fris :)

nAtuRaLbEautY 08-15-2006 09:11 PM

good luck, dude :)


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