Mr. Soul

Thread title basically says it all. For some reason around election time the governments of the US, Uk, and Canada, always seem to heroically break up some massive terrorist attack.

Do you think they are actually stopping real acts of terrorism, or is it bullshit to make them look good, scare the people, and win elections?


Private poll.

mysterylady

hello everyone:D..you know what? I believe in them,let's not think about the coming election, let's think of the innocent people that they are protecting

Dollarmansteve

clearly no one should believe anything. Reality doesnt exist. The only solution is to:

1) lock one's self in basement with internet connection and book collection
2) limit all internet browsing to "alternate" news websites
3) only read books by sociopaths/paranoid schziofrenics, science-fiction and revisionist history.
4) post findings of 'research' on GFY

__________________
I died.

JD

it's so funny how these foiled plots always seem to pop up around elections/political shit

bobby666

i belief nothing

__________________

Lazonby

You don't even 'belief' in correct spelling.

Dirty Dane

So if planes were blown up... would the poll be; "do u believe terrorists did it" ?

Storm_Tracker

Latest British terror scare is another false flag.

The alleged terrorists in England are chemists who have been detained vis a vis Internet chatter. There is no physical evidence; none bought plane tickets and at the time of their arrest, no physical evidence of liquid explosives were found at the scene.

A U.S. French Interpol team which has monitored the Dunblaine pedophile Tony Blair have now concluded that Blair purposely orchestrated this terrorist scare tactic versus the American people for political purposes. His co-conspirator is none other than Mossad agent Michael Chertoff. Reference 9-11 Urban Moving Systems, New Jersey.

Note: U.S. French Interpol have now reported that this alleged British terror case goes back as many as three years. Again there is no physical evidence tied to this terror attempt except Internet chatter.

Michael Chertoff has already lied today when he said that this investigation is in its early stages. Again the inquiry goes back as many as three years aka Internet chatter.
Question: Do the alleged terrorists on the Internet in London, England have any connection to the teenage terrorists in Toronto, Canada?

Blair who phoned Bush personally gave his British Viceroy orders to avoid leaks aka FBI Division #5.

Leaks? Note it was only three weeks ago that the FBI arrested a suspect who was accused of espionage and spying for the U.K. and directly downloading FBI internal codes. Who the bleep does this Dunblaine Pedophile think he is?

Summation - British Petroleum has been under investigation in the U.S. as has the entire Yiddish-British Box Gang plus Bushfraud and the entire Bush Clinton Crime Syndicate lost a key election in Connecticut just 48 hours ago. It can also be noted that Dunblaine Pedophile Tony Blair is still trying to cover-up the Gary Best Inc.-Bosnian-FBI Div#5 Subway Bombing link fingered and exposed by U.S. French Interpol on the day of the bombing. Reference.

The original Fox News Report one hour after the bombing never to be heard again on American TV. Note: Did the U.S. assist the U.K. in the current terrorist inquiry. Yes and No. FBI Div 5 has been directly linked to Internet chatter with the alleged British Terrorists in the U.K. aka the Pakistani chemists.

All this is happening while Bushfraud wants to ramrod another Nazi-Gestapo Bill through the U.S. Congress giving the unelected Occupunk the ability to detain American citizens without trial.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. We won't be fooled again.

P.S. There is no physical evidence linked to these alleged UK terrorists.

PPS - Know your enemy and identify your enemy. So punk Blair orders Bushfraud to declare Martial Law in the United States. It should be noted that the UK investigation was headed by Douglas Alexander current head of the UK Dept. of Transportation. Alexander has already been fingered as a major co-conspirator in the Year 2000 Presidential Election fraud in Florida.

Note: Alexander was the former head of the Dept. of E-Commerce (i.e. The Internet) in the U.K. Alexander has also been tied to former U.S. Ambassador to Italy Mossad agent Mel Sembler and the forged British Intel dossier that took American boys to their deaths in Iraq.


HOW DARE YOU! YOU CONSPIRATORIAL KINGS AND TYRANTS.

CONCLUSION: Today's announced Terrorist Scare in UK was scripted by Scotland Yard-British Intel gang who bombed the London Subway on July 7. At least half of the Pakistani alleged suspects that were taken into custody today were British Mi5 Informants linked to the British Subway plot. Since Blair refuses to have an investigation of Scotland Yard vis a vis what they knew in advance of the Subway plot.

It is a convenient way for him to obstruct justice by charging his informants with something else aka Internet chatter and ignore the deaths of British citizens over a year ago.

Finally, ABC News is reporting they are in possession of Martydom Tapes made by the alleged terrorists in the U.K. Question were they made at the Monica Lewinsky apartment in Los Vegas with Jackie Judd as producer?

__________________
Top Dating Sponsors I use!
http://datingfactory.com?refId=DFL-AF-3410
White label ( 65%) rev Amazing Great Ratios!
http://affiliate.sexsearch.com/?ref=57448
High PPS! Good Ratios!

godisdead

Can't you see the obvious truth that this is a plot executed by Elvis and the aliens. I am wearing my tinfoil hat again.

__________________

CheneyRumsfeld

I don't give a shit, I don't fly.
for those of you who like to go to these webmaster cluster fucks maybe you should think about it.
no soap, no shampoo, no mouthwash etc, etc, you bastards are going to stink like hell in no time.
glad I am not there.

Mr. Soul

So then, no change over past shows.

scottybuzz

Yeh I believe its all real. because whenever they bust open an attack and if the muslims are innocent then they blast the police, which can totally fuck the government up, this happened not so long ago.

plus al queda are growing and growing, they havent attacked for ages

__________________
$$$$$ MAKE HUGE MONEY IN CAMS - CLICK HERE $$$$$

edgeprod

See, you post this as a joke, but he really believes this shit. Seriously.

... wtf?

juliocrockett

I'm with you, buddy. Foil on the walls has been my mind-control solution for years.

__________________

Sly

That is exactly what would happen.

If there is a "terrorist attack", people scream and shout wondering where the government was to protect them. If there aren't any "terrorist attacks", people scream and shout saying there is no real threat. If a "terrorist attack" is foiled, people scream and shout saying the whole thing is staged.

Five years ago people wondered why the government didn't prevent 9/11. Since then people have questioned counter terrorism saying that no new attacks happened so obviously terrorism doesn't really exist. And now people are saying the recent foiled plot was staged by the government so the Republicans and Democrats can prove who is better and fight over congressional seats.

Does anyone not see the comedy in this?

__________________
Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted

Windows VPS now available
Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc.
Click here for more details.

damonx

successful and foiled terrorist attacks are both suspect

__________________

Penthouse Tony

Wasn't bin ladin suppose to be captured before the last election? Fortunately for conspiracy theorists elections happen all the time in our government.

__________________
aamos AT FFN dot com
Penthouse.com Business Development
ICQ: 49090846 | Yahoo IM: ff_aamos

Penthouse Tony

well said

__________________
aamos AT FFN dot com
Penthouse.com Business Development
ICQ: 49090846 | Yahoo IM: ff_aamos

Mr. Soul

I thought they were going to catch him in the first 2 months of the Afghanistan war? Weren't we going to smoke him out? That's what the government told us at the time, so it must be true, right?

Mr. Soul

Do you honestly think that the Bush and Blair governments have not exploited terrorism for political gain? Do you get your duct tape out when the alert level is raised?

Sly

Where did I say any of that? Read what I said again and find where I said what you're implying.

Watching the Republicans and Democrats fight over who is right and who is wrong is sickening. Are they going to use current events to bolster support for their campaigns? Absolutely, they wouldn't be in office if they didn't. Does that mean the US government and the British government got together and said "hey, over there in them States they have elections coming up, let's rig something fun to make the campaigns more interesting!"? Heh... maybe if you jump at every conspiracy opportunity that comes your way.

__________________
Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted

Windows VPS now available
Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc.
Click here for more details.

Big John

The governments may not have instigated this for political gain but you can bet they will milk it for all it's worth as they have done throughout the 'war on terror'.

It's less of a worry that the government inistaigated this particular episode for control and political profit and more a worry that the police and security services have simply fucked up again. It was only a short while ago they shot a guy for no reason in the UK (not the guy killed near the tube station but another one since. They've shot two now) - mind you....seems he may have been into CP so the shooting wasn't all bad.

__________________

fastfun

We Landed On The Moon !!!

madawgz

i believe its all setup to scare the shit outa us :\

__________________
TAEMDLRMSKRJIXMRLSMRJ.

Cyndalie

LOL!!! Shit! I need a basement!
DAMN FLORIDA!!!!

__________________
Cyndalie
Marketing Director
StoriesTraffic.com

Penthouse Tony

So are you saying the entire war in Afghanistan was because an election was near?

__________________
aamos AT FFN dot com
Penthouse.com Business Development
ICQ: 49090846 | Yahoo IM: ff_aamos

directfiesta

No.....

the word is:

" Yo, Blair ..."

__________________
I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

bdld

of course i believe it, im not some crazy conspiracy nut.

Dvae

Strange how every terrible act in hiostory somehow gets blamed on the Jews

Israel's Mossad
Black Ops and False Flags

What is the Mossad?

Mossad is a shell organization for Jewish/Israeli terrorism all over the world.

What is a False Flag?

Committing an atrocious act, and blaming another party or nation for it. The point is to turn public opinion against an entity, and have someone else fight your battles for you.

Lusitania

Churchill, who was 1/2 Jewish, leaked intelligence to Germany that Lusitania carried munitions, and then it was sent it in a U-boat infested area. The ship was supposedly torpedoed, and a massive bomb exploded, killing 1200.

This set the stage for Wilson to bring the USA into WW1, at a later date.

Kristallnacht

When government officials were away, Jewish-paid thugs went on a rampage in Berlin and some border towns.

Nazis were blamed, and world opinion favored Jews

Bromberg massacre

An estimated 58,000 German civilians lost their lives in the massacres carried out prior to the 1939 invasion. A website on the atrocity at Bromberg explains how Polish Bolshevik Jews massacred 5,500 Germans, on one 'Bloody Sunday, in 1939.

This was the flashpoint for the Polish invasion.

The King David Massacre - July 22, 1946

Jewish terrorists blew up a hotel, and killed 91 British soldiers, and blamed the atrocity on Arabs. When later caught, they said the British had a list of their Arab spies and were going to turn them over to the Palestinians.

The goal of the False Flag was to pit the British against the Palestinians.

Lavon affair

In 1954, Israeli agents working in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including a United States diplomatic facility, and left evidence behind implicating Arabs as the culprits. The ruse would have worked, had not one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to capture and identify one of the bombers, which in turn led to the round up of an Israeli spy ring

June 1968

Robert Kennedy is shot by a PLO bus-boy named Sirhan Sirhan. Kennedy was running for President, and would have sought revenge over the Israeli killing of his brother.

The use of a Palestinian was a little too 'Hollywood'.

USS Liberty ....June 6th, 1967

Six fighters, three torpedo boats and two assault helicopters attacked the USS Liberty. There were 24 dead and 177 maimed. F-4 phantoms were enroute when President Johnson stopped the rescue.

Israel's plan was to blame Egypt, and have the US retaliate against Egypt.

September 5, 1972

Eight Palestinian "Black September" terrorists seized 11 Israeli athletes in the Olympic Village in Munich, West Germany. In the rescue attempt directed by Moshe Dyan, using West German authorities, nine of the hostages, and five terrorists were killed.

Israel, and it's Jews, are once again the victim, and the Palestinians are demons.

1976 ... Entebbe

Israel faked a hijacking to Kenya (Idi Imin was an Israeli puppet), and then pulled a rescue, portraying themselves as elite commandos.

Arabs looked like monsters and the Israelis, having suffered countless persecutions, have decided to fight back.

1982

Abu Nidal, who was an Israeli Black Ops agent, attacked the Jewish Goldenberg's delicatessen in Paris. 6 were killed, and 20 were wounded, of which 2 were Jewish.

Pan Am flight 73

A 747 was enroute from Karachi, to Frankfurt, to its final destination of New York.

Four hijackers took control of the airplane, and for the next 16 hours, they held 379 passengers at gunpoint, while the pilots escaped. The plane was stormed and 20 died.

Beirut Marine barracks ...October 23,1983

241 Marines died when a truck packed with explosives blew up a Marine barracks at Beirut International Airport

Achille Lauro ...1985

Abu Abbas, and 15 Arabs, took over a cruise ship and threw a Leon Klinghoffer overboard. After two days of negotiations, the seajackers abandoned the ship.

In this False Flag, the Israelis turned world opinion against the Arabs, while once again portraying themselves as victims.

English policewoman shot....1984

In 1984, Zionist Jews staged a protest outside the Libyan embassy in London. Approximately 25 English Bobbies were used for crowd control. During the middle of the demonstration, a shot rang out and a female Bobby named Yvonne Fletcher was killed.

The shot came from a building used by the Mossad to spy on the Libyan embassy, but the newspapers overlooked that and blamed Libya.

Israel used this false flag murder of Policewoman Fletcher, to turn world opinion against Libya.

Alia airliner...1985

Nidal's Black September group hit a jet with an SAM as it took off from Athens airport.

Although the rocket did not explode, it left a hole in the fuselage.

Lockerbie ....Dec 1988

Mossad blew up Pan AM 103 and blamed it on Libya. Unfortunately, the plane was late and blew up overland, and all the evidence pointed towards Israel.

Israel's goal was to demonize the Muslims, and lay the groundwork for 9/11.

AMIA ....1992

Mossad blew up AMIA and the Israeli Embassy in Argentina. Over 100 killed, and practically all of them were Argentineans.

Luxor, Egypt ... 1992

An attack on Luxor, by militants, in which 58 foreigners, most of them Swiss, were killed. Arabs blamed the Mossad.

Israel destroyed Egyptian tourism, and turned world opinion against Muslims.

Khobar Towers ...1996

Khobar Towers was bombed. It housed an F-15 unit.

Israel said it was done by Hezbollah, but US military investigators linked it to Mossad.

Karin-A...... 2000

Israel intercepted a ship, the Karin-A, in the Red Sea. The ship contained massive weapons, which Israel claimed were destined for the PLO. A Jewish arms dealer set it all up.

As a result, world opinion turned on the PLO, and Israel's slaughter of rock throwing Arab children wasn't questioned.

Two airports attacked .....1985

Terrorists of Abu Nidal's Black Sept. struck at the Rome and Vienna airports. Nineteen were killed at Schwechat Airport and three at the Rome airport.

LaBelle Disco ......1986

As part of a Libya False flag, the Mossad sent a series of false messages out of Tripoli, talking of an impending attack. The Mossad then bombed a German Disco, the Labelle Club, killing three and wounding 230. President Reagan was convinced it was a Libyan attack, and retaliated by bombing Libya

World opinion turned against Libya.

OKC Murrah Building ...1993

One of the Mossad's American arms, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), was concerned about the growth of Patriot movements such as Militias, so an attack was staged using a Timothy McVeigh patsy, who was out of Elohim City (Jewish-sponsored terror Mecca).

The real brains behind the OKC bombing were Andreas Strassmeir and Daniel Spiegelman, who were/are both Jewish.

The Zionists destroyed the Militia movement's credibility, and brought the FBI down on them.

Flight 840

TWA's Flight 840, a Boeing 727 flying from Rome to Athens with 115 passengers and seven crew members aboard, had already begun its descent toward the Athens international airport. Twenty minutes before landing, as it flew at 15,000 ft. over Argos, a town near the ancient site of Mycenae, an explosion shook the aircraft. Four were killed but 111 lived.

Once again, Israel planted the seed of "Arab" terrorism.

World Trade Center.... 1993

In Dec. 1992, an Israeli soldier, Nissim Toledano, was kidnapped and killed. The Israeli government rounded up 1600 members of Hamas, and deported 415 of them to the no-mans land between the Israeli and Lebanese borders. In the brutally inhospitable weather, these 415 Hamas members were stranded without food and shelter. Furthermore, the Israeli authorities stopped any humanitarian aid from reaching these people. With media focus on the deportees, it triggered international outrage against Israel, which was followed by international pressure on Israel that refused to go away. This time, Israel had bit off more than it could chew. It was time to ?deflect? pressure off Israel.

Israeli intelligence services went into action. A detailed process that is too long to elaborate here, hatched a plan. In the third week of February 1993, a truck bomb exploded in the basement of the World Trade Center building. Muslims used as scapegoats took the blame for it, while the real culprits were safely back in Israel. Thus world opinion and pressure was shifted away from Israel.

Port Arthur Massacre .....1996

A 2-man Israeli Counter-Terrorism team killed 35 at a remote tourist center at Port Arthur, Tasmania. The blame fell on a mentally challenged man named Martin Bryant, who has served as the designated patsy for this crime ever since.

Zionists got their long-awaited draconian gun control laws passed in Australia as a result of this massacre. Another view, by some expert Australian researchers is here.

Dvae

Birmingham ....1998

Birmingham abortion clinic bombed and two people killed.

As a result of the bombing, abortion opponents were portrayed as lunatics, while the Jewish-dominated abortion industry special laws passed to protect their trade.

Egyptair 990.....1999

Israel planted a thermite bomb in the aircraft tail.

USS Cole

Sayanims in the Pentagon had the Cole directed to a part in Yemen, where Israeli agents had Arab patsies approach the Cole with a small boat, in order to be seen by crewmen, while they attacked it with a shape charge.

Sept 11 .....2001

The most brazen of all Israeli attacks.

Flight 587....2001

Mossad blows up a Fl 587 out of NY, and it crashes in Rockaway.

Bali Bomb

Mossad sets off a micro nuke on the island of Bali, killing 182.

Israel blamed the attack on Al Qaeda (which is really an Israeli false flag patsy intel op), and the USA invaded Iraq.

Kenya missile .... 2002

In 2002, Israel claimed AL Qaeda shot two SAM missiles at a jet on take-off. Israel used this incident to help lay the groundwork for shooting down a US airliner.

Manila.... 2003

Mossad planted a bomb on a Manila ferry, killing 103.

Israel blamed the attack on Al Qaeda.

CIA Bomb In Gaza....2003

Three CIA agents are traveling in Gaza, when a Mossad bomb exploded.

Palestinians were blamed for the attack.

Madrid Train ... 2002

Mossad killed 198 in the Madrid bomb blast.

Al Queda was blamed.

2004
Mossad bombed two airliners over Russia.

Israel claimed it was Al Qaeda. London bus

2005
Mossad bombed London buses

The general public is so suspicious, that Israel leaders have been told not to talk publicly. The news media pushes the story it was Al Quada Pakistani bombers.

source:judicial-inc.biz/

Reprobate

Go watch V For Vendetta.

__________________
<insert sig here>

Mr. Soul

No, that's not what I said. I'm saying our governments lie to us about anything and everything, and taking them at their word is childish. They will say anything that they think will help them keep and expand their power.

he-fox

I do believe that the brits busted a terrorist plot, but I suspect the US government exaggerates events like this to scare US citizen into submission. You should have used another option.

Mr. Soul

Nearly 70% think that the government BS's us. Good stuff.

Too bad that most Americans who voted probably said they're telling the truth.

Furious_Male

I believe they are uncovering plots. As far as how credible a threat these plots are is the huge question. They tend to monitor these groups for months and then uncover them at times of convenience.

__________________
Living in Virtual Reality
Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

Goblin

very interesting poll result

Paul

It really wouldn't matter if 90% of both the population of the US & UK believed this because no one would do shit about it. We've all turned into a bunch of pussies that wouldn't have the balls to take action. Sad but true

Even a peaceful protest would be too much effort for most of the population

SCORE Ralph

A counter argument would be that the terrorists are aiming at doing these attacks around election time. If attacks are successful, they would have the opposite effect than what youre suggesting.

Another argument would be that elections are held (at least in the US) every 2 years, with half or more of the election year being a significant window of time to influence the public. So chances are that 50% (or so) of the time, a terrorist plot may land on election "season" per se.

__________________