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Hooligan 08-09-2006 01:42 AM
50 jews :warning

NoComments 08-09-2006 01:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
what the idf is doing is NOT defending its country , its commiting suicide, as i have pointed out i support israel's right to defend itself . but when its doing it in a self destructive way its silly and i will comment..

hmmmm....Smokey,
please enlighten us regarding your military background. When were you dropped by West Point?

SmokeyTheBear 08-09-2006 01:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex
You support them enough to call them Baby killers and murderers.

Those are strong words, be careful when you use them.
i called baby killers baby killers , like the ones who killed babies. i didnt say "jewish baby killers" or "idf baby killers" i said "baby killers"

i hate hezbollah baby killers just the same as idf baby killers.. idf just happens to be doing alot more of the baby killing right now. i wish it were different and no baby killing was taking place and i didnt have to point out the cold hard reality of war to some people.. but sticking your head in the sand wont help..

NoComments 08-09-2006 01:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex
Enlighten me.

Here is the situation.

Hezbollah forces are using civilian sites to not only store weapons in, but to fire them from.

You support defending thier country. How would you go by, to immediatley disarm Hezbollah?

Israel is attempting to evvacute the cities and them destroy (bomb) the weapons.

For this you call them murderers. But yet you offer no other solution.

I think Smokey studies seriously Iranian president solution and re-examines the "final solution" written 70 years ago

SmokeyTheBear 08-09-2006 01:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winetalk
hmmmm....Smokey,
please enlighten us regarding your military background. When were you dropped by West Point?
its about numbers , at the current rate israel will run out of people before its enemy does..

Alex 08-09-2006 01:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
i called baby killers baby killers , like the ones who killed babies. i didnt say "jewish baby killers" or "idf baby killers" i said "baby killers"

i hate hezbollah baby killers just the same as idf baby killers.. idf just happens to be doing alot more of the baby killing right now. i wish it were different and no baby killing was taking place and i didnt have to point out the cold hard reality of war to some people.. but sticking your head in the sand wont help..
But what about the word murder?

Do you honestly believe that what the IDF is doing justifies as murder.

I've defined it for you , incase you didnt know its meaning.

http://www.google.com/search?hs=Et3&...er&btnG=Search
Quote:
kill intentionally and with premeditation

Ace_luffy 08-09-2006 01:45 AM
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SmokeyTheBear 08-09-2006 01:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex
Enlighten me.

Here is the situation.

Hezbollah forces are using civilian sites to not only store weapons in, but to fire them from.

You support defending thier country. How would you go by, to immediatley disarm Hezbollah?

Israel is attempting to evvacute the cities and them destroy (bomb) the weapons.

For this you call them murderers. But yet you offer no other solution.
i did offer a solution , but in your hate you must have missed that thread

I know what the solution isnt.. if they continue at this rate israel will have no people left so who wins ?

Alex 08-09-2006 01:48 AM
Its 2AM here on the west coast.
Should hit the bed soon.

Alex 08-09-2006 01:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
i did offer a solution , but in your hate you must have missed that thread

I know what the solution isnt.. if they continue at this rate israel will have no people left so who wins ?
I doubt i missed it.

Please repost it here, a simple copy and paste of your solution. That will solve the problem of the firing of missilies into Israel by terrorist scum that hide in civilian sites.

Obviously you have find a more effective way of disarming hezbollah with less casualties on either side.

Let me know.

NoComments 08-09-2006 01:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
its about numbers , at the current rate israel will run out of people before its enemy does..
that is a brilliant military logic. Are you telling me that Chinese army will conquer the world if it wishes to do so?

Alex 08-09-2006 01:51 AM
Quote:
Not sure if any of you watch the "daily show" with john stewart , but he proposed a pretty good idea to the middle east conflict

Some of the main objectives of either side is fair access to the religious sites they find signifigant ( and other religions as well )

so anyways he proposed an "international" area , sort of a bufferzone in israel.palestine gets its own state and israel is buffered by the "international" area, EVERYONE can access the religious sites as they please, christians , muslim , jews , etc..

It wont solve all the problems but its fair enough that anyone who continues to whine is racially motivated or just evil...
Maybe you meant this post you made.

This obviously does not imediatley stop the firing of Hezbollah missiles into Israel.

SmokeyTheBear 08-09-2006 01:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex
But what about the word murder?

Do you honestly believe that what the IDF is doing justifies as murder.

I've defined it for you , incase you didnt know its meaning.

http://www.google.com/search?hs=Et3&...er&btnG=Search
if you want to be a smart ass you can have an audience of yourself , if you actually want to discuss the topics and want my opinion act like an adult.. if you want to imagine my opinion go right ahead , just dont put words in my mouth or suck my nuts with your hate.. i'm all for a meaningfull discussion of the topics and i find it both entertaining and helpfull.. i enjoy arguing with you when your being civil , but im not going to play your hit and run racist comments anymore.. if you continue we will have problems, if you wanna talk like a man we can do that but theres a time and a place ... this means dont threadjack people for your own agenda , if you want the highlight start your own thread and if it inspires me we can argue till hell freezes over..

:2 cents:

Alex 08-09-2006 01:55 AM
Please explain how i am racist?

Ill address any "proof" you have in the morning.

And as for the "murder comment". Dont deny that you did not call Israelies murderers when they did not deserve it.

Alex 08-09-2006 01:57 AM
Im heading off tto bed on a sad note.

I will never realize why Jews (And i associate Jews with Israelie as most of you do too) are hated so much. We have been getting the short stick of it (a phrase smokey used) since as far as history goes back.

Even know when we have such a good understanding of history people still try to find blame in the Israelies.

I just hope that Hezballah is destroyed as soon as possible to end it all.

SmokeyTheBear 08-09-2006 01:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winetalk
that is a brilliant military logic. Are you telling me that Chinese army will conquer the world if it wishes to do so?
im not sure the chinese army has more soldiers than the rest of the world but for the sake of argument i will play along..

if the chinese army was at war with the world and had 11 times as many soldiers and only losing ten soldiers for every one they killed then yes.. thats just simple math..

at the current rate israel will run out of people.. they need to either step it up or step out..

NoComments 08-09-2006 01:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex
Im heading off tto bed on a sad note.

I will never realize why Jews (And i associate Jews with Israelie as most of you do too) are hated so much. We have been getting the short stick of it (a phrase smokey used) since as far as history goes back.

Even know when we have such a good understanding of history people still try to find blame in the Israelies.

I just hope that Hezballah is destroyed as soon as possible to end it all.

which brings us back to the original post
:)

NoComments 08-09-2006 01:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

at the current rate israel will run out of people.. they need to either step it up or step out..
ok, I'll pass your suggestion to IDF and most likely they will take it in consideration and step up.

SmokeyTheBear 08-09-2006 02:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex
We have been getting the short stick of it (a phrase smokey used) since as far as history goes back.
so have black people ( a word alex once used ) , but they are doing a great job without sending missiles at anyone.. go figure..

NoComments 08-09-2006 02:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
so have black people ( a word alex once used ) , but they are doing a great job without sending missiles at anyone.. go figure..
Smokey,
in Russian the expression is:
"Comparing dick with one's finger" and this is exactly what you are doing.

Alex 08-09-2006 02:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
so have black people ( a word alex once used ) , but they are doing a great job without sending missiles at anyone.. go figure..

AHh i just had to read this last post didnt i :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Now that really isnt a fair comparison:

1. The blacks enslaved in the U.S were only enslaved for a short period of time, if you compare it to the 1000s of years Jews have been slaves, vicitims of homocide, exhiled, etc.

2. If you dont think the Black people aren't doing anything about it, then its obviously you have never been to L.A ( i remembered you are from Canada).
So many robberiers and crimes by black people justified by saying that they have been slaves and it is okay for them to get even.

Alex 08-09-2006 02:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winetalk
Smokey,
in Russian the expression is:
"Comparing dick with one's finger" and this is exactly what you are doing.
:thumbsup :thumbsup

He will never get it. Too much of a narrow minded person. He makes comparisons to justify what he is saying, but nothing is as similar to the situation we are in now.

Alex 08-09-2006 02:08 AM
Oh and winetalk.

Ya ne znal shto ti russki. Ot kuda ti? :)

SmokeyTheBear 08-09-2006 02:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winetalk
Smokey,
in Russian the expression is:
"Comparing dick with one's finger" and this is exactly what you are doing.
so israeli's are dicks ? :disgust alex isn't going to like this turn of events ..

but seriously , i have a better expression ( and much more relevant )

"dont shit where you eat" thats exactly what israel is doing.. and why i pointed out my example, you must have misseed the relevence.. :)

Lazonby 08-09-2006 02:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
and then the racist woke up from his dream :winkwink:
Smokey, you'd be better off sticking to talking about code and calling out cheating programs. You're very good at that.

When you start talking about real reality stuff, you fall flat almost every time.

EviLSuperstaR 08-09-2006 02:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winetalk
A young man was walking the streets of Paris. Suddenly he saw a
rottweiler attacking a young girl. He jumped on the dog, struggled
with him and strangled it. Both he and the girl escaped with minor
scratches.
Immediately excited journalists surrounded him and said:
What is your name? All Paris will hear of you, and the headlines
will be: "A Parisian hero saved a little girl from a savage dog".

Said the man: I am not Parisian.

The jurnalists: O.K, so all France will hear of you and the
headlines will be :"A French hero saved a little girl from a savage
dog".

The man: But I am not French.

Journalists: OK, so all Europe will hear of you and the headlines
will read: "A European hero saved a little girl from a savage dog".

The man: But I am not from Europe.

Journalists: So where are you from?

The man: I am from Israel.

Journalists: OK, so all the world will hear of you and the headline
in all tomorrow's papers will read:
"Israeli killed a little girl's dog."

Stop wining you schmuck...
Israel has taken away thousands of Palestinians including women and children to lock them up, mainly without any form of trial. Two Isreali SOLDIERS get kidnapped. Israel decides to murder an entire country for it, mainly civilians because it is too stupid to hit the ones responsible for the kidnapping.
No wonder hate against Israel has reached an all time high. No wonder Israel has become completely isolated now in the world apart from it's whore the US.
Good luck for your future. You will need it now.

SmokeyTheBear 08-09-2006 02:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex

Now that really isnt a fair comparison:

1. The blacks enslaved in the U.S were only enslaved for a short period of time, if you compare it to the 1000s of years Jews have been slaves, vicitims of homocide, exhiled, etc.
i didnt say anything about the u.s. thatsd why it didnt say U.S. in the words you quoted..

If your trying to claim jews have been murdered or enslaved longer than black people your deluded

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex

2. If you dont think the Black people aren't doing anything about it, then its obviously you have never been to L.A ( i remembered you are from Canada).
So many robberiers and crimes by black people justified by saying that they have been slaves and it is okay for them to get even.
i lived in l.a. for several years.. have you ?

SmokeyTheBear 08-09-2006 02:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazonby
Smokey, you'd be better off sticking to talking about code and calling out cheating programs. You're very good at that.

When you start talking about real reality stuff, you fall flat almost every time.
theres always some people who disagree with me, the fact you quote that and tell me i fall flat on my face says your biased, but hey you cant win them all.

I believe murder is wrong , so basically you either agree or disagree if you disagree then i suppose you disagree with me.. and thats your right.. if theres something with substance you disagree with you would mention it. the fact you have nothing says thats about as far as your argument goes..

if something is debateable , by all means debate away, im all ears.

lets start with .. what do you disagree with..

NoComments 08-09-2006 02:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex
:thumbsup :thumbsup

He will never get it. Too much of a narrow minded person. He makes comparisons to justify what he is saying, but nothing is as similar to the situation we are in now.

Alex,
being a sig whore has it's limitations in horizons
;)

NoComments 08-09-2006 02:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex
Oh and winetalk.

Ya ne znal shto ti russki. Ot kuda ti? :)
rodilsia v Vitebske, uchilsia v Leningrade

NoComments 08-09-2006 02:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
so israeli's are dicks ? :disgust alex isn't going to like this turn of events ..

but seriously , i have a better expression ( and much more relevant )

"dont shit where you eat" thats exactly what israel is doing.. and why i pointed out my example, you must have misseed the relevence.. :)
Smokey,
as always, you got this one wrong. I will not go into your inabilities to analyze the conflict,
but it's Hezbollah which poops in Israeli's corn flakes.

NoComments 08-09-2006 02:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazonby
Smokey, you'd be better off sticking to talking about code and calling out cheating programs. You're very good at that.

When you start talking about real reality stuff, you fall flat almost every time.

he is. Lots of programmers are numb nuts in real life...something has to do with how their brains work.

NoComments 08-09-2006 02:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EviLSuperstaR
Stop wining you schmuck...
Israel has taken away thousands of Palestinians including women and children to lock them up, mainly without any form of trial. Two Isreali SOLDIERS get kidnapped. Israel decides to murder an entire country for it, mainly civilians because it is too stupid to hit the ones responsible for the kidnapping.
No wonder hate against Israel has reached an all time high. No wonder Israel has become completely isolated now in the world apart from it's whore the US.
Good luck for your future. You will need it now.
hmmmm.........are you French? Are you telling me your country wouldn't do shit if two of it's soldiers are kidnapped on it's own territory?

EviLSuperstaR 08-09-2006 02:37 AM
An interesting jewish comment of the current fucked up situation:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Sto...840128,00.html

SmokeyTheBear 08-09-2006 02:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winetalk
Smokey,
as always, you got this one wrong. I will not go into your inabilities to analyze the conflict,
but it's Hezbollah which poops in Israeli's corn flakes.
so black people are dicks ? kanye west isnt going to like this turn of events.. :1orglaugh

I understand the conflict its dead simple, thats why you have trouble hearing the reality sometimes because it clashes with you perception of the conflict. I have no interest in the conflict at all other than not liking death , so my only hope is less death , so i hardly see how disagreeing with me is a very smart opinion, but hey thats just my :2 cents:

Both of you obviously have some interest in the conflict whereas my only agenda is less death , so if your agenda in the end meant less death we would be on the same side.. but it sounds like you have a different agenda..

EviLSuperstaR 08-09-2006 02:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winetalk
hmmmm.........are you French? Are you telling me your country wouldn't do shit if two of it's soldiers are kidnapped on it's own territory?
Not french. It is getting kinda childish to always pretend criticism comes from the french. See the jewish article above. He is a british jew. The world opinion is against Israel on this, in case you haven't realized yet.
No civilized or intelligent country would destroy another country for the kidnapping of two soldiers....

SmokeyTheBear 08-09-2006 02:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winetalk
hmmmm.........are you French? Are you telling me your country wouldn't do shit if two of it's soldiers are kidnapped on it's own territory?
any sane person wouldnt do it if the end result was the destruction of its own country , you would have to be suicidal..

Lazonby 08-09-2006 02:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
theres always some people who disagree with me, the fact you quote that and tell me i fall flat on my face says your biased, but hey you cant win them all.

I believe murder is wrong , so basically you either agree or disagree if you disagree then i suppose you disagree with me.. and thats your right.. if theres something with substance you disagree with you would mention it. the fact you have nothing says thats about as far as your argument goes..

if something is debateable , by all means debate away, im all ears.

lets start with .. what do you disagree with..
Here's how it goes.

You're very good with code, so you're quite right to talk about it.

I am not very good with code, so I would be quite wrong to talk about it (unless I am asking questions of someone more knowledgeable in this field).

I am very good at real reality stuff, so I'm quite right to talk about it.

You are very bad at real reality stuff, so you're quite wrong to talk about it (unless you are asking questions of someone more knowledgeable in this field).

Otherwise, we'd both be wasting other people's time.

SmokeyTheBear 08-09-2006 02:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazonby
Here's how it goes.

You're very good with code, so you're quite right to talk about it.

I am not very good with code, so I would be quite wrong to talk about it (unless I am asking questions of someone more knowledgeable in this field).

I am very good at real reality stuff, so I'm quite right to talk about it.

You are very bad at real reality stuff, so you're quite wrong to talk about it (unless you are asking questions of someone more knowledgeable in this field).

Otherwise, we'd both be wasting other people's time.
thats your opinion , i appreciate the nice comments and of course am not really bothered by your opinion on the other aspects , i dont come to gfy for self gratifcation or an ego boost lol i am a talker , love debating , my friends love to debate they enjoy the debate, if you dont thats cool , no harm no foul i have plenty of people who enjoy my opinion.. if i only talked to people i agreed with it would be an awfully boring discussion

Lazonby 08-09-2006 02:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
thats your opinion
No, it's not my opinion. I don't have an opinion on the matter, nor would my opinion be of any value. Opinions don't apply when talking about 'real reality stuff', because the reality exists regardless of opinion.

We can have opinions on subjective things, or if we were talking about which colour we like best or which music we think is best or about something the truth of which is not easily fathomable.

The reality of the Israel/ HizbAllah thing is already known, so why is there any argument?

SmokeyTheBear 08-09-2006 03:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazonby
No, it's not my opinion. I don't have an opinion on the matter, nor would my opinion be of any value. Opinions don't apply when talking about 'real reality stuff', because the reality exists regardless of opinion.

We can have opinions on subjective things, or if we were talking about which colour we like best or which music we think is best or about something the truth of which is not easily fathomable.

The reality of the Israel/ HizbAllah thing is already known, so why is there any argument?
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

sorry i dont know quite how to reply to that ? delusions of grandeur ?

save the rhetoric , you dont have a point if you did you would say it..

lets start again.. what exactly do you disagree with or find not of your reality ?

Lazonby 08-09-2006 03:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

sorry i dont know quite how to reply to that ? delusions of grandeur ?
So, if any particular person is knowledgeable about a particular subject, then they have delusions of grandeur? As a coding wizzkid, do you have delusion of grandeur or do you really know about code?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
save the rhetoric , you dont have a point if you did you would say it..

lets start again.. what exactly do you disagree with or find not of your reality ?
It's got nothing to do with 'my reality'. I don't have a 'wing' in that I'm not a left winger or a right winger, so therefore 'my reality' isn't going to differ from the one which exists outside of perception.

As much fun as it is, there's no point in arguing about the Israeli/ HizbAllah conflict since the reality already exists outside of any argument there may be in this forum. Ie, WE do not decide the reality. We can only hope to be lucky enough to be able to notice it.

alexg 08-09-2006 03:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
lets be realistic , that wouldn't happen... it hasn't , and doesn't..
:error smokey's sense of humor not found :error


since when do we comment on jokes that they're not realistic?

SmokeyTheBear 08-09-2006 03:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazonby
So, if any particular person is knowledgeable about a particular subject, then they have delusions of grandeur?
no you have delusions of grandeur because you havent shown any knowledge of anything yet other than having no opinion about anythintg..


Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazonby

It's got nothing to do with 'my reality'. I don't have a 'wing' in that I'm not a left winger or a right winger, so therefore 'my reality' isn't going to differ from the one which exists outside of perception.

As much fun as it is, there's no point in arguing about the Israeli/ HizbAllah conflict since the reality already exists outside of any argument there may be in this forum. Ie, WE do not decide the reality. We can only hope to be lucky enough to be able to notice it.
whats your point ? never discuss anything ? or your right and everything smokey says is wrong.. but you have nothing to say cant tell anyone why i'm wrong , cant point out 1 inaccuracy.. i get it .. makes complete sense.. :1orglaugh

SmokeyTheBear 08-09-2006 03:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexg
:error smokey's sense of humor not found :error


since when do we comment on jokes that they're not realistic?
it not being funny and not being realistic were 2 seperate things but you have a point, i didnt have to say anything ,.. i think serge's purpose was quite clear with the thread and i think it went in the direction he wanted :winkwink:

alexg 08-09-2006 03:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
its about numbers , at the current rate israel will run out of people before its enemy does..
actually it's wrong if we're to talk about numbers.... i'm surprised you say that....



and besides, it's not like israel doesn't have the ABILITY to kill all the people in lebanon and gaza within a day....

we're not war criminals... but if it ever gets to 'either kill or be killed'.........well, then killing for self defence isn't really a crime...

Joe Citizen 08-09-2006 03:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winetalk
(...and I even haven't got $27 yet)
Hey Serge, what do I get for $5?

SmokeyTheBear 08-09-2006 03:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexg
actually it's wrong if we're to talk about numbers.... i'm surprised you say that....
if it were purely israel vs lebanon , but i think we all know this isnt the case..

Quote:
Originally Posted by alexg
and besides, it's not like israel doesn't have the ABILITY to kill all the people in lebanon and gaza within a day....
not possible , the rest of the world would wipe israel off the map 5 seconds later..

Quote:
Originally Posted by alexg
we're not war criminals... but if it ever gets to 'either kill or be killed'.........well, then killing for self defence isn't really a crime...
i dont think your average israeli is any different from your average lebanese or american , but i think that some people in all 3 should be tried for war crimes...

Pleasurepays 08-09-2006 04:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex
Enlighten me.

Here is the situation.

Hezbollah forces are using civilian sites to not only store weapons in, but to fire them from.

You support defending thier country. How would you go by, to immediatley disarm Hezbollah?

Israel is attempting to evvacute the cities and them destroy (bomb) the weapons.

For this you call them murderers. But yet you offer no other solution.
more accurately.

hezbollah forces are using civilian sites and religious sites to store weapons in, fire weapons from and are primarily targeting isreali civilian sites.

Lazonby 08-09-2006 04:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
no you have delusions of grandeur because you havent shown any knowledge of anything yet other than having no opinion about anythintg..
Au contraire. I've writen some very well informed and informative posts on Islam in this forum over the last few months. That you haven't seen them, or choose to ignore them, is neither here nor there.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
whats your point ? never discuss anything ? or your right and everything smokey says is wrong.. but you have nothing to say cant tell anyone why i'm wrong , cant point out 1 inaccuracy.. i get it .. makes complete sense.. :1orglaugh
I've already explained the position. Go back and read it.


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