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Old 08-02-2006, 02:02 PM   #1
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Vanity Fair publishes 9/11 Norad Tapes

http://www.vanityfair.com/features/general/060801fege01

Conspiracies abound, turns out these people were so panicked they didn't know what the left hand was doing from the right
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Old 08-02-2006, 06:57 PM   #2
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pretty amaing stuff...

GFY is obviously very interested ...
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Old 08-02-2006, 07:22 PM   #3
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Listening to it, good stuff.
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Old 08-02-2006, 07:40 PM   #4
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Actually,if you want a pretty accurate , real time depiction of what happened, see "United 93"...

It shows what happened from both a military and air traffic control point of view. We were really caught with our panties down, and simply could not react to the situation fast enough..

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Old 08-02-2006, 07:44 PM   #5
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WATSON: What?
DOOLEY: Whoa!
WATSON: What was that?
ROUNTREE: Is that real-world?
DOOLEY: Real-world hijack.
WATSON: Cool!


Yep, it sure was COOL alright.
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Old 08-02-2006, 07:47 PM   #6
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Watch everybody say that the logs are fake.
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Actually,if you want a pretty accurate , real time depiction of what happened, see "United 93"...

It shows what happened from both a military and air traffic control point of view. We were really caught with our panties down, and simply could not react to the situation fast enough..

Then for Vietnam truth, watch RAMBO ...
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Old 08-02-2006, 09:23 PM   #8
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WATSON: What?
DOOLEY: Whoa!
WATSON: What was that?
ROUNTREE: Is that real-world?
DOOLEY: Real-world hijack.
WATSON: Cool! <<< WTF?
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Old 08-02-2006, 09:31 PM   #9
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looks like it's a good thing the news is there - otherwise no one would have had any idea what was going on :-/
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Old 08-05-2006, 02:26 AM   #10
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Holy fuck, you gotta hear these NORAD tapes. What a totally disorganized and unprepared air defense network we have.

Hit the PLAY excerpts throughout the page.

http://www.vanityfair.com/features/general/060801fege01

I always thought the military had their shit together. After listening to those you realize they don't.

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Old 08-05-2006, 02:33 AM   #11
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Wow, reading and listening to that was amazing. I hope we got our shit together and don't have this happen again
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Old 08-05-2006, 02:45 AM   #13
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pretty amaing stuff...

GFY is obviously very interested ...

Very, very interesting well worth the time to read and listen to
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Kean and Hamilton said the commission found it mind-boggling that authorities had asserted during hearings that their air defenses had reacted quickly and were prepared to shoot down United Airlines Flight 93, which appeared headed toward Washington.

In fact, the commission determined ? after it subpoenaed audiotapes and e-mails of the sequence of events ? that the shootdown order did not reach North American Aerospace Command pilots until after all of the hijacked planes had crashed.

The book states that commission staff, ?exceedingly frustrated? by what they thought could be deception, proposed a full review into why the FAA and the Pentagon?s NORAD had presented inaccurate information. That ultimately could have led to sanctions.

Due to a lack of time, the panel ultimately referred the matter to the inspectors general at the Pentagon and Transportation Department. Both are preparing reports, spokesmen said this week.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14191255/
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Old 08-05-2006, 07:06 AM   #15
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Watch everybody say that the logs are fake.
I'd like to know why it has taken nearly 5 entire years to release the logs ?

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Then for Vietnam truth, watch RAMBO ...
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Old 08-05-2006, 07:51 AM   #16
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I always thought the military had their shit together. After listening to those you realize they don't.
Our military is not in the business of defending the country from United Airlines.
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Old 08-05-2006, 08:40 AM   #18
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At least you have a defence network. If it all went wonky in the UK we could fly a couple of aging Tornado bombers down from Scotland to defend the airspace over london. After taking a while to find the live ammo and bring it out of storage to hang on the wings.

Seriously.
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Our military is not in the business of defending the country from United Airlines.
Did you read the fricking article?

On the day of 9/11 the US Air Force / NORAD had a total of only 2 fighter jets on each of 7 bases nationwide available to defend the entire United States???

Christ that sounds like some kind of banana republic's air force. WTF???
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I'd like to know why it has taken nearly 5 entire years to release the logs ?



When the Democrats get back Congress in the next elections, they'll have Subpoena power again and you're going to see all the stuff that's been conveniently hidden from the public coming to light. I'm sure there's going to be a lot of resignations and criminal indictments when that happens.
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Then for Vietnam truth, watch RAMBO ...
Not that I expect an honest answer or a "fact-checked" post from you....EVER...

But did you even see "United 93" and if so, how was it innaccurate from Air Traffic Control or Air Defence point of view? Be specific..

Or are you simply regurgitating what another clueless, left-wing moron told you, which accounts for about 99% of your posts?
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Not that I expect an honest answer or a "fact-checked" post from you....EVER...

But did you even see "United 93" and if so, how was it innaccurate from Air Traffic Control or Air Defence point of view? Be specific..

Or are you simply regurgitating what another clueless, left-wing moron told you, which accounts for about 99% of your posts?
you are really stupid....
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you are really stupid....
I asked you a simple(yes/no) question even a total idiot could answer. You failed miserably as expected....

Just admit you did not see the movie and that you're clueless as usual

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Something similar to this was written in Washington Post the other day. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...0.html?sub=new
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When the Democrats get back Congress in the next elections, they'll have Subpoena power again and you're going to see all the stuff that's been conveniently hidden from the public coming to light. I'm sure there's going to be a lot of resignations and criminal indictments when that happens.
Not to mention "guilt" suicides.
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Our military is not in the business of defending the country from United Airlines.
Apparently though your military IS in the business of and quite exceedingly prepared to defend the country from UA, American, and every other rinky-tink airline out there; there are very specific protocols to follow when any sort of weirdness happens out there in the blue heavens.

For example, it took them only seven minutes to scramble two fighters (F-18s I think) after an airliner that reported a very troublesome drunk. Seven minutes, BEFORE 9/11.

Where the fuck was that rapid-response on 9/11?

I have no theories as to what happened that day, it was terrible, too many people died for nothing. I just don't believe the government "theory" or the 9-11 commission report. Righteous incredible bullshit and white wash, and I don't know that they're friggin hiding, but until they stop the crap the conspiracy theorists, many of them more convincing than the official theorists or version or whatever, will rule the roost and rumor mills.

Stupid government, tricks is for kids...
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