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Brujah · 08-06-2006, 03:29 PM

Employers in Europe are free to refuse smokers a job, confirming their status as the continent's last pariahs.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14187600/

aico · 08-06-2006, 03:33 PM

"If these people can ignore so many warnings and all that evidence then they haven't got the level of intelligence that I am looking for. Smoking is idiotic."

Right fucking on!

polish_aristocrat · 08-06-2006, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

Smoking is idiotic.

true

Jarmusch · 08-06-2006, 03:35 PM

So all smokers have a low IQ? Damn. :D

wyldblyss · 08-06-2006, 03:41 PM

I am so glad I quit smoking!

Sly · 08-06-2006, 03:42 PM

I was under the impression smoking was extremely popular in Europe. Can any Europeans confirm or deny?

Wiggles · 08-06-2006, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

"If these people can ignore so many warnings and all that evidence then they haven't got the level of intelligence that I am looking for. Smoking is idiotic."

Right fucking on!

haha damn that would so not fly here.

pradaboy · 08-06-2006, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

I was under the impression smoking was extremely popular in Europe. Can any Europeans confirm or deny?

that's a bit general, we used to have less restrictions on smoking but luckily they're wising up and making some good choices. Still, smoking in restaurants etc is still not banned so we have a long way to go.

NoCarrier · 08-06-2006, 04:54 PM

Stopped smoking 5 years ago..

Best decision ever..

Fuck the tobacco companies.

NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF!

detoxed · 08-06-2006, 05:06 PM

For real fuck cigarettes, smoke weed

nico-t · 08-06-2006, 05:09 PM

same could be said for people downing alcohol

NoCarrier · 08-06-2006, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t

same could be said for people downing alcohol

At least when I'm drinking beer I can't give cirrhosis of the Liver to everyone around me.

RoCkMaN · 08-06-2006, 05:35 PM

Be back in a few minutes. Gotta go out for a smoke.

Yngwie · 08-06-2006, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiggles

haha damn that would so not fly here.

fucking right it wouldn't. They do something like that and you will see the murder rate rise drastically lol.

I mean christ, yes, we smoke, but idiotic drunk drivers kill more people than smokers do. Don't smoke here, don't smoke there blah blah blahh... Oh but feel free to drink and drive home.. thanks for coming.. haha..

nico-t · 08-06-2006, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoCarrier

At least when I'm drinking beer I can't give cirrhosis of the Liver to everyone around me.

that aint the point being made in this thread - they say smokers are stupid because despite the warnings they still smoke.

But if you dont exagerate it you will not get cancer. If you dont exagerate drinking alcohol you will not get korsakoff and liver problems. If you dont exagerate eating fat food you will not get heart problems.

So therefore the statement that smoking is idiotic is idiotic.

NOTR · 08-06-2006, 05:51 PM

Many companies in the USA have a non smoking policy. Cuts down benefits dramatically.

http://www.illinoissmokersrights.com...ep_my_job.html

Weyco is just one of many. Smokers cost $$ when it comes to benefits, either pass the difference onto the workers or ban it all together.

micker · 08-06-2006, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiggles

haha damn that would so not fly here.

Actually it happened here in Michigan. An employer here told his employees last summer that they had till the end of the year to quit smoking... In Jan. everyone got a tobacco test, those that failed were fired. There was a huge lawsuit about it, but I havent heard anything on that front in awhile...

NOTR · 08-06-2006, 05:55 PM

Funny shit http://www.smokersclubinc.com/module...=content&tid=4

aico · 08-06-2006, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t

same could be said for people downing alcohol

Didn't know that there were over 100 known poison in alcohol, too. Damn, that's news to me, where did you get that information from, I'd like to learn more about the poisons in alcohol.

reynold · 08-06-2006, 06:24 PM

It's been two years since I put down my last tobaco stick. That's one of the best decisions I did in my life.

Alex · 08-06-2006, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yngwie

fucking right it wouldn't. They do something like that and you will see the murder rate rise drastically lol.

I mean christ, yes, we smoke, but idiotic drunk drivers kill more people than smokers do. Don't smoke here, don't smoke there blah blah blahh... Oh but feel free to drink and drive home.. thanks for coming.. haha..

35,000 to 40,000 deaths per year in the United States in the early 1980s caused by Second Hand Smoke [Source: Wikipedia]
This is not couting how many actual smokers die per year.

16,694 alcohol-related fatalities im 2004
http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-dr...tatistics.html

You = Wrong.

Brujah · 08-06-2006, 06:30 PM

For countries with a socialized form of healthcare, this makes even more sense. Everyone has to pay the burden for smokers.

nico-t · 08-06-2006, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

35,000 to 40,000 deaths per year in the United States in the early 1980s caused by Second Hand Smoke [Source: Wikipedia]

they never have proof that its of second hand smoke, if you wanna die of second hand smoke you need to be chained to a chain smoker 24 hours a day for 10 years and maybe then its possible

Alex · 08-06-2006, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t

they never have proof that its of second hand smoke, if you wanna die of second hand smoke you need to be chained to a chain smoker 24 hours a day for 10 years and maybe then its possible

Right....

I think i am going to go and trust reliable sources like Wikipedia and the Journal of American Medical Association rather than some tool on GFY named Nico-tine

NoCarrier · 08-06-2006, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Right....

I think i am going to go and trust reliable sources like Wikipedia and the Journal of American Medical Association rather than some tool on GFY named Nico-tine

aico · 08-06-2006, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t

they never have proof that its of second hand smoke, if you wanna die of second hand smoke you need to be chained to a chain smoker 24 hours a day for 10 years and maybe then its possible

What makes you say they don't have proof? Please state your source.

Oh that's right, your source is your personal opinion. Here are some facts for you, with sources, you know, that thing you lack:

Fact #1: Secondhand smoke, also know as environmental tobacco smoke, is a mixture of the smoke given off by the burning end of a cigarette, pipe or cigar and the smoke exhaled from the lungs of smokers. It is involuntarily inhaled by nonsmokers, lingers in the air hours after cigarettes have been extinguished and can cause or exacerbate a wide range of adverse health effects, including cancer, respiratory infections, and asthma.

Source: California Environmental Protection Agency. Health Effects of Exposure to Environmental Tobacco Smoke. September 1997.

Fact #2: Secondhand smoke has been classified by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) as a known cause of cancer in humans (Group A carcinogen).

Source: U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Respiratory Health Effects of Passive Smoking: Lung Cancer and Other Disorders. December 1992.

Fact #3: Secondhand smoke causes approximately 3,000 lung cancer deaths and 35,000-62,000 heart disease deaths in adult nonsmokers in the United States each year.

Source: California Environmental Protection Agency. Health Effects of Exposure to Environmental Tobacco Smoke. September 1997.

Fact #4: Secondhand smoke is especially harmful to young children. Secondhand smoke is responsible for between 150,000 and 300,000 lower respiratory tract infections in infants and children under 18 months of age, resulting in between 7,500 and 15,000 hospitalizations each year, and causes 1,900 to 2,700 sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) deaths in the United States annually.

Source: California Environmental Protection Agency. Health Effects of Exposure to Environmental Tobacco Smoke. September 1997.

Here are some more handy dandy little facts so you don't have to talk out your ass anymore: Secondhand Smoke Fact Sheet

Grapesoda · 08-06-2006, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

Employers in Europe are free to refuse smokers a job, confirming their status as the continent's last pariahs.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14187600/

they'll all imagrate to the USA and then we can pay all their health cost when they start having cancer and stuff

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aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	"If these people can ignore so many warnings and all that evidence then they haven't got the level of intelligence that I am looking for. Smoking is idiotic." Right fucking on!

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nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	same could be said for people downing alcohol

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NOTR Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: MTL Posts: 380	Many companies in the USA have a non smoking policy. Cuts down benefits dramatically. http://www.illinoissmokersrights.com...ep_my_job.html Weyco is just one of many. Smokers cost $$ when it comes to benefits, either pass the difference onto the workers or ban it all together.

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NOTR Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: MTL Posts: 380	Funny shit http://www.smokersclubinc.com/module...=content&tid=4

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